iPhone 13 Pro 13 pro to 13 and i am happy

[kp98077]

What you are quoting is talking about the 13 non-pro and 13 pro, not the 13 pro max.

I was origionnalg referring to max vs pro 😂

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Had a black 12 last year for 6 months, slippery, smudge magnet, poor battery, no telephoto. Worse than the 11 pro I had. Swapped to a 12 max and now 13 max.
I prefer quality not budget phone.

Odd. My iPhone 12 isn’t a budget phone. You should have taken that up with Apple as you clearly got a dud

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Yes it’s an inferior product.

Less battery vs pro max. Cameras aren’t as good, no 120hz, 4GB ram vs 6GB ram.

Cheaper build quality

Ermmm an inferior product.

Depends if those features are valued by the person buying it I suppose. On specs only, of course the Pro is a better phone, but to some it’s inferior because it costs more or uses different materials. All depends on what angle you are judging it from. Not everybody wants a Pro and that’s something far too many on here don’t seem to understand. If someone posts about enjoying their 12 or 13, there’s always a contingent who will think they are elite by pointing out a more expensive model is better. If the Pro was better or valued by everyone, we’d all have one!! lol

 

[wickedrm]

they physical size between the pro and max are night and day...

How clueless can you be to still not know I was talking about the 13 and 13 Pro?

 

[mikehalloran]

We’re talking about the average user who shouldn’t have issues with a few extra grams - a couple of quarters. Even then I can’t imagine that pushing it over the edge of usability for these people you speak of.

Also keep in mind we’re not comparing Max phones to mini phones. My comments were specifically referring to the little bit of extra weight between the 13 and 13 Pro, two phones with similar volumes and slight weight differences.

You are making assumptions not backed up by experience. Users with experience keep disagreeing with you. Perhaps you should pay attention.

Because you are making things up and not looking things up, you don't know that the weight difference between the 13 and the 13 Pro is not 'a couple of quarters'. It's exactly 5.29 quarters.

By comparison, the difference between the 13 Pro and 11 Pro is only 2.82 quarters. Ok, looks like nothing on paper but not only do I notice the extra heft, I don't care for it. If the 13 Pro did not come with features I wanted, I would have either gone with the 13 (more likely the 13 Mini) or not upgraded at all.

You do not know who the average users are. Guessing just makes you look bad.

 

[wickedrm]

You are making assumptions not backed up by experience. Users with experience keep disagreeing with you. Perhaps you should pay attention.

Because you are making things up and not looking things up, you don't know that the weight difference between the 13 and the 13 Pro is not 'a couple of quarters'. It's exactly 5.29 quarters.

By comparison, the difference between the 13 Pro and 11 Pro is only 2.82 quarters. Ok, looks like nothing on paper but not only do I notice the extra heft, I don't care for it. If the 13 Pro did not come with features I wanted, I would have either gone with the 13 (more likely the 13 Mini) or not upgraded at all.

You do not know who the average users are. Guessing just makes you look bad.

A few anecdotal responses from this forum does not indicate average users like you are suggesting. You say I’m guessing about average users, but so are you. However, I’d wager that I’m closer to being correct. The amount of users with disabilities simply does not outweigh users that are fine and well.

I’ve said before that I’m glad Apple makes as many models as they do for people to choose what works best for them. But come on let’s be honest here. When you complain about an extra 5 quarters of weight (spread out over the dimensions of the phone), you didn’t want the extra features the Pro offers any way. If you want the most features, I can’t imagine how one would avoid purchasing the device because of weight. IMO IMHO MOIMO YMMV

 

[sonstar]

Odd. My iPhone 12 isn’t a budget phone. You should have taken that up with Apple as you clearly got a dud

Wasn't a dud, just pointing some of the differences that make it cheaper, I had both for some time together so could compare, like everything you get what you pay for.
Screen brightness was another biggie, maybe it's better with the 13 now.

 

[tis]

Wasn't a dud, just pointing some of the differences that make it cheaper, I had both for some time together so could compare, like everything you get what you pay for.
Screen brightness was another biggie, maybe it's better with the 13 now.

Maybe it’s better? The screen is much brighter on the 13.

Nonetheless, when you call an $830 phone a “budget phone”, in an effort to somehow prop up a Pro model, which is only $170 more, anything you say beyond that lacks any credibility.

 

[sonstar]

Maybe it’s better? The screen is much brighter on the 13.

Nonetheless, when you call an $830 phone a “budget phone”, in an effort to somehow prop up a Pro model, which is only $170 more, anything you say beyond that lacks any credibility.

Comparing pro max not pro, so more $ than that lol. $500AUD to be exact. It's a Internet forum no one has credibility, its not a court of law lmao

 

[daddyd302]

I have the 13 PM and needed a backup phone. I initially chose the 13 Pro but couldn't justify the cost for it just being a backup. I tried the 13 mini but it was too small. I settle on a compromise and went with the 13.

 

[ebika]

I was origionnalg referring to max vs pro 😂

Yeah, that’s why you’re confusing people in this thread, since the thread is about the 13 non-pro and 13 pro, not the max.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Wasn't a dud, just pointing some of the differences that make it cheaper, I had both for some time together so could compare, like everything you get what you pay for.
Screen brightness was another biggie, maybe it's better with the 13 now.

My iPhone 12 cost me £800 ($1093 USD) and is far from feeling like a budget phone. Never had an issues with screen brightness so can’t relate to that. It is a cheaper phone than the 12 Pro, but then some of the 12 Pro’s and cheaper than those with bigger storage options, doesn’t make them cheap by any stretch of the imagination. I think ‘cheap’ and ‘budget’ are poor choices of words to use when discussing phone that are anything but. It also gets up peoples noses as it comes across arrogant and elitist, especially on here.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Maybe it’s better? The screen is much brighter on the 13.

Nonetheless, when you call an $830 phone a “budget phone”, in an effort to somehow prop up a Pro model, which is only $170 more, anything you say beyond that lacks any credibility.

It’s reaction seeking I think or I’d go so far to say it’s trolling as we’ve had the odd poster over the years saying similar things. We used to get people on here when the 6 and 6 Plus came out suggesting the 6 was a ‘budget’ phone because it wasn’t big and was £99 cheaper. I’m nearly 40 so perhaps I am too old to understand the mentality but it’s rather desperate IMO.

 

[sonstar]

When looking to buy a product the cheapest version of the product usually means it's the budget model, if that gets up your nose then i would say that person has the elitist attitude, not my problem though.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

When looking to buy a product the cheapest version of the product usually means it's the budget model, if that gets up your nose then i would say that person has the elitist attitude, not my problem though.

The iPhone 13/12 aren’t by any stretch even the cheapest iPhones Apple sell currently, so your definition there doesn’t even make sense. Referring to them as ‘budget’ is false and inflammatory to those here that have paid a lot of money for such devices. It’s not my problem either, but I will call you out on it every single time.

 

[sonstar]

The iPhone 13/12 aren’t by any stretch even the cheapest iPhones Apple sell currently, so your definition there doesn’t even make sense. Referring to them as ‘budget’ is false and inflammatory to those here that have paid a lot of money for such devices. It’s not my problem either, but I will call you out on it every single time.

Ok, in the 13/12 FID series phones then, they are the cheapest so budget model. Except for mini. You have never heard of a car being called the budget model ie the cheapest model?
Funny being but hurt your phone was called the budget model, my daughter has the budget/cheapest model Suzuki swift, she’s ok with it lol.

 

[RRC]

Ok, in the 13/12 FID series phones then, they are the cheapest so budget model. Except for mini. You have never heard of a car being called the budget model ie the cheapest model?
Funny being but hurt your phone was called the budget model, my daughter has the budget/cheapest model Suzuki swift, she’s ok with it lol.

You don’t get it, you’re using the wrong descriptive. There is no budget iPhone 12 or 13 series, that’s the point. Cheapest model does not equate to a budget device.

My Lotus Elise as an example had no electric windows, no power steering, no tech inside the car that even a fiesta would have. But it doesn’t mean it’s a budget car does it?! No. It’s just produced for people wanting different things from a car.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Ok, in the 13/12 FID series phones then, they are the cheapest so budget model. Except for mini. You have never heard of a car being called the budget model ie the cheapest model?
Funny being but hurt your phone was called the budget model, my daughter has the budget/cheapest model Suzuki swift, she’s ok with it lol.

Perhaps it’s a language thing I don’t know. In my country the word ‘budget’ wouldn’t be used in this context or in the context of cars. A mid range model phone or a mid range model car would be referred to as ‘mid range’. The cheapest car in the range would be ‘entry level’. ‘Budget’ is a financial term and would be used for the individual, not the product itself.

I am not ‘hurt’ by the use of the term, I think you are misunderstanding me here but again it might be a language thing. I just find it unusual or bewildering that you’d pick a product that is in the higher end of the iPhone range and refer to it as ‘budget’. As I said before if that logic is applied to the Pro range alone, is the 128gb the ‘budget’ iPhone Pro, or is that completely the wrong terminology and context? I think that’s a rhetorical question to be fair.

 

[sonstar]

You don’t get it, you’re using the wrong descriptive. There is no budget iPhone 12 or 13 series, that’s the point. Cheapest model does not equate to a budget device.

My Lotus Elise as an example had no electric windows, no power steering, no tech inside the car that even a fiesta would have. But it doesn’t mean it’s a budget cat does it?! No. It’s just produced for people wanting different things from a car.

I do

 

[sonstar]

Perhaps it’s a language thing I don’t know. In my country the word ‘budget’ wouldn’t be used in this context or in the context of cars. A mid range model phone or a mid range model car would be referred to as ‘mid range’. The cheapest car in the range would be ‘entry level’. ‘Budget’ is a financial term and would be used for the individual, not the product itself.

I am not ‘hurt’ by the use of the term, I think you are misunderstanding me here but again it might be a language thing. I just find it unusual or bewildering that you’d pick a product that is in the higher end of the iPhone range and refer to it as ‘budget’. As I said before if that logic is applied to the Pro range alone, is the 128gb the ‘budget’ iPhone Pro, or is that completely the wrong terminology and context? I think that’s a rhetorical question to be fair.

Call it whatever, entry, budget still means cheapest, I have a Sony 65’ x900 tv, it’s the budget/cheapest model. I don’t care as that is all I wanted to spend.
‘Never knew the word budget could be so offensive lol.

 

[Daannnyyyyyy]

Depends if those features are valued by the person buying it I suppose. On specs only, of course the Pro is a better phone, but to some it’s inferior because it costs more or uses different materials. All depends on what angle you are judging it from. Not everybody wants a Pro and that’s something far too many on here don’t seem to understand. If someone posts about enjoying their 12 or 13, there’s always a contingent who will think they are elite by pointing out a more expensive model is better. If the Pro was better or valued by everyone, we’d all have one!! lol

13’s aren’t cheap phones. they are still Greta phones with brilliant technology and a cracking OLED panel. just aren’t as good as the ‘pro’ models. the battery life on PM and 120hz is a real winner

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Call it whatever, entry, budget still means cheapest, I have a Sony 65’ x900 tv, it’s the budget/cheapest model. I don’t care as that is all I wanted to spend.
‘Never knew the word budget could be so offensive lol.

The word isn’t offensive at all as previously explained. I think the context and intent here is though as it seemed you were exaggerating to seek reactions.

13’s aren’t cheap phones. they are still Greta phones with brilliant technology and a cracking OLED panel. just aren’t as good as the ‘pro’ models. the battery life on PM and 120hz is a real winner

Indeed and back to my point of what the individual values. If the Pro features aren’t desired, the winner becomes a totally different product. If the Pro features are desired, of course that particular consumer will believe what they are using is the best. The reality of the situation is Apple make very good phones regardless of model and that is the common theme here.

 

[sharpimage]

Dumb question here, I'm sure: This may be a generational thing for me but - am I the only one who doesn't understand the "return" phenomenon? What i mean is: I never return things I have bought. I would if it was faulty, or it didn't fit in my car (like a TV or something), or it turned out I couldn't afford it and had major regret. Do people nowadays buy things primarily to help decide what they will *keep*, and therefore very often end up returning thing? I have had iPhones since the 4. Never once returned a phone.

It’s part of the “Apple Tax”. I.e pricing in the returns. I have only ever returned a pair of AirPods Because they would not stay in my ears. Waiting on a Nov delivery for Apple Watch even though I could get it from a retailer tomorrow because I will have the option to return if it is underwhelming!

 

[tis]

Call it whatever, entry, budget still means cheapest, I have a Sony 65’ x900 tv, it’s the budget/cheapest model. I don’t care as that is all I wanted to spend.
‘Never knew the word budget could be so offensive lol.

Except….it’s not the cheapest! You keep stating that, and there are numerous other iPhones cheaper. You keep making up and adjusting your definition of what a “budget” phone is.
By your initial definition, the budget phone would be the SE. Don’t play semantics. Your initial statement was “I prefer quality, not budget phone”. You were purposely trying to insult the phone to prop up a phone you purchased that doesn’t even cost that much more. Here in the USA, the price of an unlocked Pro Max is only $270 more than the base 13 model. That’s hardly anything when you are spending $830 already.

No one is bothered by your comments. It was just such a ridiculous pretentious comment that many people called you on it. It really just points to your own insecurities.

Most people finance their phones with a carrier. Do you think if someone really wanted a Pro Max, they couldn’t afford another $10-15 a month? That’s all it would cost them. At this price level, no one is buying their phone based on “budget”. They are buying it based on what they feel they need.

 

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