Someone in San Francisco has ordered one and we'll soon see that guy in a surveillance video kicking a sleeping homeless American in the head and flashing that Macbook Pro at him and screaming at him how much it cost.
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16-Inch MacBook Pro Debuts With New Magic Keyboard, Physical Esc Key, Up to 64GB of RAM, and More
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Someone in San Francisco has ordered one and we'll soon see that guy in a surveillance video kicking a sleeping homeless American in the head and flashing that Macbook Pro at him and screaming at him how much it cost.
Remind me again: what decade-old storage had read/write speeds of over 2GB/s?
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It's I guess a good sign they're willing to increase the weight of a product to make it better.
But for me, this would have been of great appeal if it used standard SSD drives that are user replaceable along with user replaceable RAM.
I'm not someone who wants 8 TB or really any amount of storage soldered to a logic board.
I kind of understand the non-replaceable battery—they can squeeze more in there.
The SSD and RAM non-modularity are very non-pro, though.
But for me, this would have been of great appeal if it used standard SSD drives that are user replaceable along with user replaceable RAM.
I'm not someone who wants 8 TB or really any amount of storage soldered to a logic board.
I kind of understand the non-replaceable battery—they can squeeze more in there.
The SSD and RAM non-modularity are very non-pro, though.
My prediction is in June 2020 at WWDC, Apple will update the 13 inch with this new design, and both the 13 and 16 inch will get Tigerlake CPUs
That, plus the RAM upgrade price is a joke (cue the "pros don't care about price" comments)
Exactly. This is Apple making a bigger separation for the Pro line. And if it shuts up the whiners like Marco Arment in the process all the better.
Here is a graph showing the keyboard travel (and spacing) for a range of laptops (and keyboards):How much travel did the old pre-butterfly keyboards have?
I am afraid will never have a decent keyboard on a MacBook again.
https://marco.org/2019/11/13/mbp16
It is about twice as much as that of the butterfly keyboard but still less than the 2015 MBP keyboard. But even the standalone Magic Keyboard has less travel than the 2015 MBP.
If people weren't ignorant and posted things like "If you can't afford it don't buy it but you can't complain about the price" didn't exist, then the world would be a better place.
This is not that place unfortunately.
True for the $2,399 model with the 5300M.
But the $2,799 model comes with the 5500M, so the bump to 8GB is $100. Along with the 1TB drive and 8-core CPU, the $2,799 model is a pretty nice config.
I completely forgot about my corporate discount.... thanks! I just cancelled my first order and then placed it again and saved $170
Also at 100Wh it is the maximum you take on a plane, so whilst they could have gone higher, I appreciate the cap at that level.
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Whether he does or not I don't know, but I believe it.
Is that including tax?
If it is, then you have a 'discount' compared to us on this side of the atlantic of over 1700 dollars. That's insane!
Perhaps the butterfly keyboard was a solution looking for a problem. Except for PC Gaming Laptop users, the MacBook was unanimously given high marks for the keyboard with the scissor mechanism.
Also, I think Gruber was referring to it's thinness. I think the butterfly keyboard was an attempt to make a keyboard that's easier to package in a thinner frame.
Btw, Rene Ritchie says this keyboard does not feel like the previous scissor-switch. So it’s not a reversal to, say, the 2012 keyboard. I could see the 13” MBP getting this keyboard but I’ll bet the MBA sticks with what it has now.
By the way, I just saw in iJustine's unboxing that the new 16 inch model is NOT the same size as the previous 15 inch model. That's odd, i thought it was a bigger screen in the same package!
Oh dear. they missed a trick on the ports. While doing a U-turn on that might as well put some useful ports back there too. And given the machine isn't actually that thin (the leading edge is thin, but it hides the true thickness of the laptop), it would have been good to put an ethernet port in there. If you rely on networked storage for your projects, dongles aren't so great. They could have even had bragging rights with the first laptop with 10GigE.
Also given this will be used by a lot of photographers, why no SD card slot?
Also given this will be used by a lot of photographers, why no SD card slot?
Check your credit card companies return policy
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Yeah the 720p webcam really is pretty silly
I'm positively impressed about the price and the specs. The storage and CPU options in particular are amazing. I wish RAM wasn't as expensive though...