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What's the difference between the 5300m and the 5500m? Should I spring for the extra $100?
 
It's clear then we'll be getting a 14 inch next year, along with WiFI ax, new CPU generation, please give more PCIE 3.0 lanes (allowing x8 lanes to be used) and hopefully TB integrated with the CPU. Only reason I'd like the latter is for eGPU gaming. I wonder if the Air route is going the same way as the Pro.
 
This is a great update. 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD base is fantastic. With my corporate discount and Apple Card cash back, 32GB RAM upgrade is basically free, so now I’m tempted.
 
Disappointed....Not good enough to get me to come back. WHERE IS AN OLED TOUCHSCREEN OPTION?!!! I use this every day with my WIN 10 laptop.
macOS is not build for touch. At all. iPad OS is, but the main problem with iPad OS is that there isn't a lot of professional applications available for it yet.
 
The most Expensive model is €7139 ($7856). For a notebook.

And you know there will be people who buy this max-spec Macbook Pro.

And you know there will be somebody on this planet who will one day accidentally drop it 😩
 
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Apple today announced its much-rumored high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro, which is the largest MacBook Pro that's been offered for sale since the discontinuation of the 17-inch MacBook Pro back in 2012.

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The updated 16-inch MacBook Pro features a larger display with slimmer bezels than the 15-inch MacBook Pro, which it has replaced in Apple's notebook lineup. The display has a resolution of 3072x1920 pixels with up to 500 nits of brightness.

The notebook features an updated "Magic Keyboard" that does away with the unpopular butterfly mechanism, returning instead to a more reliable scissor mechanism with 1mm key travel, along with Intel's latest 9th-generation processors with up to 8 cores. It also has up to 64GB of RAM and up to 8TB of SSD storage.

Above the keyboard, the Touch Bar lives on, but the 16-inch MacBook Pro marks the return of a physical Esc key. In line with the latest MacBook Air, the Touch ID sensor has also been separated from the Touch Bar.


Other features include AMD Radeon Pro 5000M graphics options paired with GDDR6 video memory and an 8GB VRAM option, a larger 100Wh battery for longer battery life, a redesigned six-speaker sound system, and upgraded microphones.

Starting at $2,399 in the United States, the 16-inch MacBook Pro is available today through Apple.com and the Apple Store app. It will be in Apple Stores and Apple Authorized Resellers in the United States later this week and is "coming soon" to stores around the world, according to Apple.

Article Link: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Debuts With New Magic Keyboard, Physical Esc Key, Up to 64GB of RAM, and More

Apple has lost its way. $2399 for a computer with last gen processor and 512gb ssd. For $1000 you can buy a 10th gen Intel processor built on 10nm tech. What gives Apple?
 
I mean, I am surprised. Same price, higher spec than the 15", that was unexpected. I am guessing having seen some reviews that the keyboard is being called "magic keyboard" as it is pretty much identical to the existing magic keyboard you can buy which I love.

I want to try it, but I would prefer they did the same to the current 13" model, I prefer the smaller device. Don't know. I was done with MBP after the previous keyboard issues, but just maybe they have pulled it and me back.

Even just starting with 512GB SSD is a welcome shock. I can still use my daughters Unidays discount.
 
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Overall a pleasant surprise (keyboard, esc key, base specs, awesome max SSD size).

The only obvious thing missing is Face ID for Mac. But not bad overall, not bad.

This MacBook actually makes me want to go out and spend $2400 on a laptop I would barely use.

Although I think it's interesting that Apple has basically admitted the Butterfly keyboard was a failed experiment by going back to scissor in this new model.

I will say that lately I'm impressed that Apple seems to be dumping money back into the Mac, and listening to users. Perhaps Apple has realized that the iPad is never going to be a complete replacement for a traditional Mac for all situations.
 
Apple has lost its way. $2399 for a computer with last gen processor and 512gb ssd. For $1000 you can buy a 10th gen Intel processor built on 10nm tech. What gives Apple?

Yeah but the MacBook Pro also comes with a trackpad, keyboard, display... :p
 
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From Gruber’s preview:
It’s hard not to speculate that all of these changes are, to some degree, a de-Jony-Ive-ification of the keyboard. For all we on the outside know, this exact same keyboard might have shipped today even if Jony Ive were still at Apple.2 I’m not sure I know anyone, though, who would disagree that over the last 5-6 years, Apple’s balance of how things work versus how things look has veered problematically toward making things look better — hardware and software — at the expense of how they function.
I don’t get this quote. What did/does the butterfly keyboard have to do with looks? This new keyboard LOOKS almost identical to the last one. And does Gruber really believe Jony Ive refused to ship a laptop unless the arrow keys looked a certain way? Or that he had the power to veto a keyboard design that didn’t have arrow keys looking a certain way? Complain about the butterfly keyboard all you want but using the form over function argument doesn’t make a lot of sense. Also some of the same people who claim Ive has been checked out for years are still making him the fall guy for the keyboards. So they want us to believe Ive was checked out but there was no one else in the company that could do anything about the keyboards? The person running hardware engineering couldn’t do anything about the keyboards? Really Gruber?
 
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