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16-Inch MacBook Pro Debuts With New Magic Keyboard, Physical Esc Key, Up to 64GB of RAM, and More

More port options and user upgradable RAM and SSD would have been the ultimate, but with the keyboard improvements and reasonably priced factory upgrades, I feel pretty happy with this update.
 
Stephen.R said:
So to you, including 10 year old ports is "innovative", but including ports with 8 times the bandwidth and the ability to either adapt back to your USB keyboard or literally run a GPU externally (amongst other things) is not innovative?
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USB-A ports and devices are still EVERYWHERE. No one is saying to remove USB-C on the MBP. They are saying to ADD a USB-A port for convenience of not needing a converter/cable/dongle for most of the devices an average person carries with them and would expect to be able to plug in. Search "USB Flash Drive" on Amazon and let me know how many decent, affordable ones are USB-C.

It may be a 10 year old port (connector), but it's still modern (USB 3.1 Gen 2) so stop making it sound like some antiquated port no one uses.
 
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This is the review as a MacBook Pro 13” 2019 Touch Bar user.
Personally I like the short travel of keyboard while typing, especially during coding, it feel fast and sound good. Love it! I did consistently clean my keyboard to prevent dust built up with a make up brush, so I think it is a give and take. It gives me a good feel, and I have to clean up once in a while, I think this worth my time.
 
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Another thing I’m not seeing many happy about but I am: the new Radeon 5000 pro models should be powerful enough for 1080p gaming at high settings on modern titles.
I say “hallelujah”, about time Mac users get as good GPUs as PC users in their laptops! ( in the “portable” category at least)
 
Guys, any thoughts on the GPU choice? It's kinda odd - seems like the identical GPU with a choice of 4GB or 8GB GDDR RAM. Think that is important? Think there's a frequency boost in the 8GB?

Wow, I could configure this with double the flash and it's still cheaper than the last model. :)
 
Biggest discount I've seen to date on prior year MBPs was $1,600 off a gray, maxed out 2017 MPB. Now that we have a real keyboard, I predict a new all time record: Maybe more than $2,000 off retail? I'm not biting. :)
 
Well that's disappointing, this is just an incremental update than a redesign. Still stuck on 14nm CPUs and they made it slightly larger to accommodate the screen size increase instead of making the bezels slimmer.
 
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dmylrea said:
USB-A ports and devices are still EVERYWHERE. No one is saying to remove USB-C on the MBP. They are saying to ADD a USB-A port for convenience of not needing a converter/cable/dongle for most of the devices an average person carries with them and would expect to be able to plug in. Search "USB Flash Drive" on Amazon and let me know how many decent, affordable ones are USB-C.

It may be a 10 year old port (connector), but it's still modern (USB 3.1 Gen 2) so stop making it sound like some antiquated port no one uses.
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If the choice was three TB3/USB C and a USB A versus the four now, I would go with four.

How long would you like the inclusion of USB A? One more year? Three years? How long did you pine for Firewire 800?
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Guys, any thoughts on the GPU choice? It's kinda odd - seems like the identical GPU with a choice of 4GB or 8GB GDDR RAM. Think that is important? Think there's a frequency boost in the 8GB?

Wow, I could configure this with double the flash and it's still cheaper than the last model. :)
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Has anyone released benchmarks?
 
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Too bad they’re keeping the Touchbar. I really regret buying a TB MBP. It’s the most annoying and inconvenient “feature” I’ve ever seen on a Mac. However I really like the 2018 keyboard.
 
I wonder which scaled resolution is the default. My current 2015 15" rMBP defaults to 1280x800 and it looks sharp, though a bit cramped. I've tried using it at 1680x1050 but it looks noticeably more blurry. I noticed the same with the 2018 and 2019 15" MBP.

I would guess it's 1680x1050, which would be great if it's as sharp as my current one at 1280x800, I'd love to have that extra desk space without the blurriness.

I'll check after work if one someone on YouTube makes a comment about this 🤞
 
unobtainium said:
Too bad they’re keeping the Touchbar. I really regret buying a TB MBP. It’s the most annoying and inconvenient “feature” I’ve ever seen on a Mac. However I really like the 2018 keyboard.
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Agree, but now we can only buy an Air if we want a non-TouchBar Apple laptop. So let's hope the next Air will have better thermal dissipation, paired with an Ice Lake CPU/GPU.
 
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jsnuff1 said:
Well that's disappointing, this is just an incremental update than a redesign. Still stuck on 14nm CPUs and they made it slightly larger to accommodate the screen size increase instead of making the bezels slimmer.
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The bezels are suitable for me. The iMac bezels are terrible though.
 
dmylrea said:
Search "USB Flash Drive" on Amazon and let me know how many decent, affordable ones are USB-C.
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I live in the ass end of the worlds sweaty armpit and I found a sandisk flash drive that does type c and type a for about $10 from a local online retailer. If amazon doesn’t have them maybe look somewhere else because they’re definitely available.

dmylrea said:
They are saying to ADD a USB-A port for convenience of not needing a converter/cable/dongle for most of the devices an average person carries with them and would expect to be able to plug in.
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A squillion dollars says “1 port” won’t satisfy anyone, and potentially means going back to bandwidth-crippled TB3 ports, so no.
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Glockworkorange said:
If the choice was three TB3/USB C and a USB A versus the four now, I would go with four.

How long would you like the inclusion of USB A? One more year? Three years? How long did you pine for Firewire 800?
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This is my point.

You can adapt a TB3 port into a USB-A or FW800 or Ethernet or SCSI or anything you want, with minimal if any overhead, because it’s just pcie. You can’t adapt a USB-a port into anything without some overhead, and there’s a heap of stuff you just can’t do.

The one saving grace that made my 2011 MBP17 usable was a TB1 port because it meant I could add USB3.0, eSATA etc.
 
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Yay for the new keyboard. I can guarantee that Jony Ive doesn't know how to touch type, an that's why he designed such a crappy keyboard in the first place.
 
0837990 said:
Yeah, this is the one upgrade that has a serious cost to it now. The other upgrades are more or less decently priced, except the RAM upgrade which now sticks out as the odd one.
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Sorry, but am I missing something? Dell has already released their new laptops with 10th-gen Intel CPUs, why couldn't Apple include these with this laptop?
 
Is the RAM on this soldered?
Can the SSD be changed yourself? anyone know what type it is.
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I am guessing YES and NO
 
I like these so far. The base model is actually one I would by. I do with the top-of the line, non-bto option had the 8g card.
 
0837990 said:
Yeah, this is the one upgrade that has a serious cost to it now. The other upgrades are more or less decently priced, except the RAM upgrade which now sticks out as the odd one.
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Because of the form factor/ layout, you are paying for double capacity chips, not twice as many chips. Big difference! (Im pretty sure...alternatively they make 2 separate logic boards, one with 16gb, and one with 32gb...because they never have blank spots on a board where they left off a memory chip!) Yield rate will be lower on higher capacity chips, and Apple will buy fewer of them = more cost than "just" doubling up the chips!

(I know these reactions are emotional and therefore unaffected by reason, but in an attempt to slow the spread of this emotional reaction....)
 
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