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To add to the comment about an event, I think they may release it in September along with the iPhone. While they have had Mac-only events before (as in 2016), that time there was a new feature, the TouchBar, which occupied much of the event's time. Unless there's a new feature like that I don't see them having a separate event just for this one computer.
Might make sense to cover them together as the iPhone looks like it's going to be a bit of a non-event this year.
 
Loved my 15" Pro with matte screen but hated the silver bezel.

That remains my favourite MacBook Pro to date, even though when the retina MBP hit the shelves it was jaw dropping. It was a beast, and when the hard drive failed on me I could simply replace it and move on. I agree, the silver bezel wasn't great. I miss Apple's attention to minute details like the breathing light and the battery level dot indicator on the side of the chassis.
 
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At this rate. I might buy this laptop before I upgrade my I Phone 8. But seriously, why couldn't the display be native 4K?

Apple would need to make the Vega 20 the default GPU and up the VRAM to 8GB to truly support 3840x2400 (16:10) or 1920X1200@2x properly. I know that quite a few Windows 10 laptops have optional 4K displays, but it doesn't make sense to me unless Apple were to release a revised 17" MBP, which evidently isn't happening.

Even giving us 3360x2100 (16:10) or 1680x1050@2x would be nice as opposed to this one off resolution as the default resolution on my 2016 15" MacBook Pro is set to 1680x1050, which is not true @2x (1440x900@2x is true Retina), which just frosts me.

This MBP makes zero sense to me, right now.
 
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Apple would need to make the Vega 20 the default GPU and up the VRAM to 8GB to truly support 3840x2400 (16:10) or 1920X1200@2x properly. I know that quite a few Windows 10 laptops have optional 4K displays, but it doesn't make sense to me unless Apple were to release a revised 17" MBP, which evidently isn't happening.

Even giving us 3360x2100 (16:10) or 1680x1050@2x would be nice as opposed to this one off resolution as the default resolution on my 2016 15" MacBook Pro is set to 1680x1050, which is not true @2x (1440x900@2x is true Retina), which just frosts me.

This MBP makes zero sense to me, right now.
macOS catalina scaling is different...it will makes sense for you...if not...you will be the only one who will never gonna dance again
Guilty feet have got no rhythm
Though it's easy to pretend
Should've you known better than to cheat a friend
And waste the chance that you've been given
So you will never gonna dance again
The way I danced with you
 
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If they get rid of that underutilized half-baked touch bar they can lower the price by $300.

I miss the days when you could buy a new 15.4 MBP for $1999.
You mean like reverse of the 2-TB-port 13" MBP that got $300 more expensive last month when it gained a Touchbar?

Except of course that it didn't get any more expensive, its price staid exactly the same as its predecessor.
 
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The extra diagonal inch of screen size is going to be used on the most expensive laptop in apple's history. My guess this thing maxed out will cost north of $8000
 
If they get rid of that underutilized half-baked touch bar they can lower the price by $300.

I miss the days when you could buy a new 15.4 MBP for $1999.

I'd be super stoked to order a fully beefed up 15" MBP without this wonky usability touchbar nuisance. I wonder though if they'd still force it on grounds of the T2 chip (which is another kernel panicking mess that needs additional work).
 
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At this rate. I might buy this laptop before I upgrade my I Phone 8. But seriously, why couldn't the display be native 4K?

Why would it need to be? Very few could actually see the pixels at that scale. The 1920 scaled mode on the 15" already renders at 3840 wide. That 3840 is only represented with 2880 pixels so its more like a 1.5x retina but its still very detailed to the point where few can see the individual pixels. Its almost impossible to see true 4k on a 15" or 16" display vs what we already have with the 1920 (3840) scaled mode on the existing 15" MBPs.

The reason why the current resolution is a better solution is because it is easier to see details and read text for most people. The UI space works out to be 1440 wide or 109 DPI which is what Apple considers to be the optimal scale for usability. Scaling up thanks to retina allows a very clean looking 1920 UI space with a virtual rendered 3840 wide image. Scaling 4k down to 2880 or 1440 UI space would look horrible because scaling introduces blur and the larger pixels would show the imperfections easier. Scaling up works on the MBP because the retina hides a lot of the blurriness and imperfections due to how tiny the pixels are.

The new display is larger but it still represents that 109 DPI balance for comfort. It will likely still have the 1920 scaled mode which really is a 4k looking UI space.
 
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macOS catalina scaling is different...it will makes sense for you...if not...you will be the only one who will never gonna dance again
Guilty feet have got no rhythm
Though it's easy to pretend
Should've you known better than to cheat a friend
And waste the chance that you've been given
So you will never gonna dance again
The way I danced with you

macOS Catalina scaling is different? WTF does that even mean? It's better? I haven't noticed it looking better or worse on my 2012 15" MacBook Pro running Public Beta 4. Apple used to set the "Default for display" setting in System Preferences to the correct @2x value, but ever since the 2015 MacBook came out with that craptacular low-res "Retina" display, they have moved to interpolated "Default" resolutions out of the box. The default on my 2016 15" MacBook Pro is 1680x1050, which doesn't divide evenly into the native resolution of 2880x1800...but it still means the backing store image is 3360x2100, which used to have a flag about choosing a non-native resolution which could impact performance warning label until it was convenient for Apple to remove when they realized that their engineering goes were at odds with design's goals and they lost.
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It should be more capable than the 15" by virtue of having more volume for airflow.

In the same exact chassis? I doubt it...
 
If they get rid of that underutilized half-baked touch bar they can lower the price by $300.

I miss the days when you could buy a new 15.4 MBP for $1999.

Orrrr they could have one for you that starts at 1999, and have one for me that uses it.

Under no circumstances should they "get rid of" the touch bar.
 
I hope they improve cooling.

My current MBP routinely throttles the CPU b/c or heat when doing something like video processing. A little bit (lotta bit) more fan would definitely help. (The same is true of my 2018 Mac Mini. Apple leans to svelte over power.)

More cores won't really make it any faster unless there's also more cooling.
 
That was for a machine without a dedicated graphics chip. In 2015, the 16GB/512GB model with discrete graphics was $2,499.

A good point, though I think you could get a 16GB/256GB model for less. Looking at the alternatives, this is in the right ballpark.

What I think many people want is something like the MacBook Air but in 15/16" form-factor. Something lightweight with no need for a discreet GPU, and probably not even a quad core cpu less along six or eight-core.
 
I'm waiting on the 10th Gen CPUs from Intel. Thunderbolt 3 and Wi-Fi 6 (Gig+) connectivity have been integrated right into the processor. It should be the next leap forward. I'll happily sit this one out for another year.
That's nothing. I'm waiting for the 11th Gen thingy, Thunderbirds are Go! and Hi-Fi Wi-Fi 7 along with my brain being integrated into the processor.

Because what I do needs so much power that no current machine could possibly cope.
 
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based on image macOS scaling and this suppose resolution it will not be 16" but around 16.3"
If the two rumoured display specs 3072 x 1920 and 227 ppi are correct, that would make it a 13.53" x 8.46" screen, or 15.96" diagonal. With a bit of rounding, eg, 226.5 ppi, we could get up to 15.99". Both would be correctly rounded up to 16.0".
 
I suspect that this is true and it would not be of Apple's doing but instead lie at Intel's doorstep. It seems the yield and process maturity of the 10 nm fabrication process does not yet lend itself to the higher core count and higher frequency of these chips.

I have been thinking about replacing my Mid-2014 15" MacBook Pro but suspect that I will instead now wait for 2020's revision that will more than likely be using Ice Lake, and get the battery replaced in my current machine while possible before it becomes vintage.

And 10nm never will...Ice Lake H-Series is hinted at for Late 2020/Early 2021 timeframe, if it ever ships...you are more likely to see another 14nm+++$$$$ revision (Comet Lake) or 7nm in the undisclosed future.

You might want to get that battery replaced now if it needs it.
 
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macOS Catalina scaling is different? WTF does that even mean? It's better? I haven't noticed it looking better or worse on my 2012 15" MacBook Pro running Public Beta 4. Apple used to set the "Default for display" setting in System Preferences to the correct @2x value, but ever since the 2015 MacBook came out with that craptacular low-res "Retina" display, they have moved to interpolated "Default" resolutions out of the box. The default on my 2016 15" MacBook Pro is 1680x1050, which doesn't divide evenly into the native resolution of 2880x1800...but it still means the backing store image is 3360x2100, which used to have a flag about choosing a non-native resolution which could impact performance warning label until it was convenient for Apple to remove when they realized that their engineering goes were at odds with design's goals and they lost.
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In the same exact chassis? I doubt it...

It is going to be different chassis because the keyboard is going to be different and the butterfly keyboard was tied with the ultra-slim and thermally restricted current design with the MacBook Pros. I am sure the chassis design will change with the 16-inch when the new scissor keyboard mechanism is unveiled. This could mean that there will be more thermal headroom for higher performance in the new 16-inch MacBook Pro.
 
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