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17'' Mac Book Pro by June?
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Great news - I thought they would be out a bit earlier than June, but how ever long it takes, it takes. WWDC is shaping up to be a good one this year already... 
I Want 17" Instead Of 15" I Have Now
I for one am a 15" owner wishing I had the 17" because I want the higher resolution screen for video editing - maximum screen real estate. That is also why I want FW800 and 4 GB of RAM in it.rockthecasbah said:you want something to be considered a PORTABLE COMPUTER to be more than 17''?!?!?!?!? Call me crazy but who besides you would want to lug anything that big around. People already complain about the 17'' being massive...
Now wouldn't it be nice if Apple made the 17" a dual dual core laptop, that would set it apart from the rest of the intel machines and give the critics something to write about?
Can the Core Duo work in pairs?
Can the Core Duo work in pairs?
I don't see why not, however Dothan was never released in any machine in a dual processor configuration, that I know of. I'd check around for motherboards that support Yonah and see if there are any that support dual processors.CrackedButter said:
Yes, they will be. Yonah currently uses about 35W under full load, (IIRC), and Merom is said to be 5W, with Otellini saying each of the Merom based chips will lower Power in their respective platforms by about 30W. I do also read that Core Duo claims to be less than 25W, which would either refer to Yonah itself, or the LV versions of Yonah.generik said:
To me this seems massive, but there must be some creative accountancy in there. I did read also that the Merom will go as low as 0.5W in the ULV flavour.
I know what you're saying, but I guess you could always modify the motherboard during manufacture to support two processors, however difficult and costly this may be.generik said:
If I were to commit to an answer, it would be no. I can't see it happening in any laptop either.
17"////who gives?!
seriously...all you people who complain about the weight and/or size of th 17" powerbooks really need to go to the gym or somthing!!
ive had my 17"pb for ages now..and i use it at uni every single day, screw a 12" or 13".....we want POWER!!
oh ya...X1800 512 PLEASE!!!
seriously...all you people who complain about the weight and/or size of th 17" powerbooks really need to go to the gym or somthing!!
ive had my 17"pb for ages now..and i use it at uni every single day, screw a 12" or 13".....we want POWER!!
oh ya...X1800 512 PLEASE!!!
Fw 800
Please whatever they do keep the FW800 if possible. I dont understand it if they dont. I mean how many of us have external firewire drives purchased knowing full well they could because of the benefits of FW 800 and to have it scaled back would be a pain in the arse?
Please whatever they do keep the FW800 if possible. I dont understand it if they dont. I mean how many of us have external firewire drives purchased knowing full well they could because of the benefits of FW 800 and to have it scaled back would be a pain in the arse?
Capt Underpants said:
Oh, bugger. I was pretty comfortable waiting until Q4 this year for a 17" Merom-based system (I saw a different article but the release dates were the same as you cited) but this is the first I've heard about Santa Rosa. So, I'm back to decision time again. I'm getting pretty desperate for a replacement Power/MacBook but another year is a long time to wait, although it will undoubtedly keep my wife happy. However, given the details in the article of what Santa Rosa will bring to the table in combination with the Merom processor, is it worth buying one early with it tied to Napa and where it is not being taken full advantage of? Er...
I hate it when this happens.
In regards to the 12" vs. 17" debate, I'm voting 17" because it will be my sole computer so I need the screen space. I presume that those voting for a 12" already have a "main" computer with a good sized screen or will be connecting it directly to an external display. I can't imagine trying to work with only a 12" display on a day-to-day basis.
I'm anxiously awaiting the 13.3" MBP. Assuming it's going to be released at all. I don't think I'd manage with a Core Solo MacBook (iBook).
LFrascogna said:
What is counter intuitive? To update the 17" powerbooks to intel?
That's just personal statstics, don't put too much trust into that. I know at least two other people with a 17" pbook, and I don't think I know anyone with a 12" pbook. But I know a lot of people with a 12" ibook. The 12" pbook is similair to the 12" pbook anyway.
The 30" cinema display probably doesn't have as many buyers as the ibook either. But it is still a good idea to have a varied offering of products.
But one absolute killer for me is the built-in iSight camera. I work in a place with a strict no-camera policy, not even cell phones with cameras are allowed. My old iBook ain't getting any younger, so I hope at some point they make the iSight a deletable option.
tekriter said:
While I can certainly understand your point, I'm very pleased that Apple is making iSight camera's standard on all their models (at least, I suspect that this is what is happening). With any luck, and assuming that the PC market is doing the same as well, this will drive the uptake of webcams such that making video calls will be normal. I've always decided against a webcam for the simple reason that I didn't know anyone else with one but that may change and I'll be glad of the integrated iSight when it does. My family, for example, all live back in the UK so it'd be nice to "see" them more often.
I am not sure if Apple factored into their decision to add the iSight such scenarios as yours, but I can only assume that if they did then they decided that more people would want it than not. Having the option simply means that most may elect to save a bit of cash and we'd be in the same state as we are at the moment with only a few owning/using webcams.
Damien said:
I'd eat my hat if Merom did not make it into a MacBook Pro since it will definitely be the pro processor from Intel for sometime, if the reports are to be believed. The only question is when this will happen. Given what happened with the initial MacBook Pro announcements, I am expecting Apple to release models based on new processors/chipsets as and when Intel releases them so that they are not seen to be lagging behind competition in the PC market that will. Using the PowerPC processors meant that Apple could pretty much choose when it released products rather than be governed my Motorola/IBM's schedule since they were the only (?) computer manufacturer using these chips so there was no direct competition. Now, however, things are different and they are going to be almost direct competition with the likes of Dell, HP and the others, so I'd expect product releases very close to the release of new products by Intel, assuming that what is released fits into Apple's product roadmap.
In regards to the hi-def thing, I have no idea. As long as the image looks great, I have sufficient screen real estate and text that I don't have to squint to read, then I'm happy.
Kelmon said:
All very true, but just think of who Apple is leaving out of their customer base -
most all governmental employees who use their laptops for work
the entire defense industry
many ad agencies (my daughter works for one - there are entire floors at her company that are no-cameras-allowed)
engineering firms that deal in proprietary designs
virtually any user on a military base
It's already hard enough to get Macs in a business setting.
mishi said:seriously...all you people who complain about the weight and/or size of th 17" powerbooks really need to go to the gym or somthing!!
ive had my 17"pb for ages now..and i use it at uni every single day, screw a 12" or 13".....we want POWER!!
oh ya...X1800 512 PLEASE!!!
I couldn't agree more. Just compare the weight factor of a 17" PB to any 15" PC laptop with maybe the exception of the Sony VAIO and come on....... I love my 17", love the screen real estate for sound editing with DP4.6 and with ProTools while at home. This size of laptop rocks, nevermind 7200rpm HD for free. The only reason my PB didn't make it to eBay when they announced the Mac Book Pro was because they didn't announce a 17". As soon as Apple starts shipping the 17" and as soon as I know all my recording software is Universal Binary my 17" PPC PB will be for auction
igetit said:I couldn't agree more. Just compare the weight factor of a 17" PB to any 15" PC laptop with maybe the exception of the Sony VAIO and come on....... I love my 17", love the screen real estate for sound editing with DP4.6 and with ProTools while at home. This size of laptop rocks, nevermind 7200rpm HD for free. The only reason my PB didn't make it to eBay when they announced the Mac Book Pro was because they didn't announce a 17". As soon as Apple starts shipping the 17" and as soon as I know all my recording software is Universal Binary my 17" PPC PB will be for auction
Yes, it's strange that because some people have no need for the screen real estate that the 17" gives, in what I think is a perfectly portable form factor, then it should be dropped from the line. If you don't want one don't buy one but don't whinge about those of us who do need the power and the large display and are not too weak to carry one.
I too hope that the new 17" is announced soon even though I won't be buying until next year it should mean that rev b or c will be killer machines. In the meantime my existing 17" runs my Pro Tools mobile set up and a bunch of other related software pretty well and doesn't seem to have broken my back.