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So in essence the 17 pro max is much less repairable than the 16 PM? Didn’t Apple make the 16 PM easier to repair
I don't know. The 17 being unibody makes it appear more like its throwaway because you can't just replace the case in pieces. For most people that won't matter because they will make an applecare or carrier claim, and the whole phone will be new, or minorly refurbished. I am assume you can still replace the screen fairly easily but thats it. We'll have to wait and see I guess.
 
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The real question is how easily it'll stop charging due to overheating or hot conditions like previous phones did if being used for CarPlay or in warmer areas without A/C.
 
Did not purchase the pro due to aluminum and weight. Steel or titanium are the only choices for a hassle free ownership. My iPad Pro is dented on all corners.
Apple aluminum is surprisingly soft. My M2 MBA is dented to hell but Apple still gave me full trade in for it. My work laptop(HP Elitebook from 6 years ago) a hand me down, has missing keys, a big brightspot on the screen due to damage and for some reason the guy who had it before me felt like he wanted to remove all of the feets. And besides someone who felt they needed to key a bunch of rack numbers onto it the magnesium body is pristine.
 
I recently bought a 17 Pro Max in Deep Blue and am now debating whether it’s worth exchanging it for the Silver model. My plan is to use a case right away—as I always do—and I’ve already purchased one of the Spigen cases with a proper plateau cover with precise camera lens cutouts.

However, now I’m concerned about the areas around the camera lenses that protrude through the case’s plateau cover. Even with a protective case, will the Deep Blue (or Orange) finish around the camera rings wear or chip quickly, potentially making the phone look worn or unattractive over time even through a protective case?

Do I seriously need to switch to Silver if I want to avoid worrying about paint chipping or wear specifically around the camera rings? 😭
 
I recently bought a 17 Pro Max in Deep Blue and am now debating whether it’s worth exchanging it for the Silver model. My plan is to use a case right away—as I always do—and I’ve already purchased one of the Spigen cases with a proper plateau cover with precise camera lens cutouts.

However, now I’m concerned about the areas around the camera lenses that protrude through the case’s plateau cover. Even with a protective case, will the Deep Blue (or Orange) finish around the camera rings wear or chip quickly, potentially making the phone look worn or unattractive over time even through a protective case?

Do I seriously need to switch to Silver if I want to avoid worrying about paint chipping or wear specifically around the camera rings? 😭
Spigen also makes camera lens protectors.
 
You’re right, I checked, he does say anodized. But the finish isn’t like any other anodizing I’ve seen. Should not chip or “flake”. Regardless what they said in the keynote, I’m skeptical based on what I’m hearing, feeling and seeing.
I disagree. The anodized aluminum looks like the cheapy anodized aluminum on all kinds of products, starting perhaps with the supermarket giveaway aluminum drinking glasses from the 1960s. They are cheap and look cheap but they do last forever...
 
I can compare the two. Aluminum versus raw Titanium.

That’s the whole point to compare the fact Apple went away from Titanium to aluminum.
No, you can not "compare the two. Aluminum versus raw Titanium." Alloys are used. Raw titanium is never used for anything.

Certainly I agree that the titanium ally used in iPhone 16 Pros looks much, much better than the cheapy aluminum alloy and anodizing of the iPhone 17 Pros.
 
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Mines going back (as did my 16 last year). Not because of the paint, but because Photos app is still a hot steaming pile of ****. In fact, photos is even worse than last year, they removed the ability to hide collections. Maybe next year LOL
 
Orange in terms of engineering anodising aluminium is the hardest colour. Its surprising they got this right, unless its not anodised.
 
Orange in terms of engineering anodising aluminium is the hardest colour. Its surprising they got this right, unless its not anodised.
It's not their first attempt at the color.

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Doesn’t look like they used a case hardening anodising process and just colour anodised soft aluminium, it’s much cheaper to do that and a lot quicker.

The damage these phones are experiencing this quickly and with so little abrasive force is not a good look for Apple or its display models.
 
Doesn’t look like they used a case hardening anodising process and just colour anodised soft aluminium, it’s much cheaper to do that and a lot quicker.

The damage these phones are experiencing this quickly and with so little abrasive force is not a good look for Apple or its display models.
Sounds about right. Sounds just like Apple.
 
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