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Apple products are WAY too expensive. I remember reading in an older thread that Steve Jobs wants nothing less than something like a 28% margin on all products. I don't mind companies making a little profit, but 28 freaking % ?!?!? If I were him, I'd go with a 5-10% profit margin.

Yeah... Steve has really hurt Apple with his crazy business ideas. :rolleyes:
 
Hopefully, once Apple realizes that every single 17" they sell is with the matte screen, they'll offer it as an option on the 15" too. Buttheads...

I was wondering whether to buy matte or glossy.

It was only then that I realised I've been using a glossy screen since November, when my Prof. bought me a new iMac. I hadn't even noticed it before that.

Glossy suits me fine.
 
Yeah... Steve has really hurt Apple with his crazy business ideas. :rolleyes:

I think back to the early days of the telephone. They had a choice... charge alot of money and make them accessible to a few people or charge less and make it affordable for everyone. Guess what happened.
 
WOOOOO!!!!!!!! my 2.93 BTO is still saying Feb 4th ship... This has been the longest january in history. This baby is replacing the first gen 2.4 15" MBP. :D

You should hang on to your one-of-a-kind collectable! The first generation MBP only shipped in 1.83, 2.0, and 2.16GHz models. It was later speed bumped up to 2.33. It wasn't until the second generation with LED backlighting that a 2.4GHz MBP became available.
 
I think back to the early days of the telephone. They had a choice... charge alot of money and make them accessible to a few people or charge less and make it affordable for everyone. Guess what happened.

No need to guess. It was the former, but only until they'd gouged as many as possible. Only after this did prices start to fall.

Guess what? There are computers that are affordable by everyone. They generally run windows.
 
Actually this happened Wednesday

I am surprised you did not report this earlier. I noticed the change Wednesday. I kept hoping you would instead report readers receiving shipping notifications.
 
You should hang on to your one-of-a-kind collectable! The first generation MBP only shipped in 1.83, 2.0, and 2.16GHz models. It was later speed bumped up to 2.33. It wasn't until the second generation with LED backlighting that a 2.4GHz MBP became available.

We got ourselves a Wikifreak.. ;) It was the first gen 2.4 core 2 duo, not the first gen MBP. There were other 2.4 revisions after that. I got it when they switched from core duo, to core 2 duo. Does this make more sense now??
 
I'd like to see some real life pics of the 17" unibody next to the old 17" showing the differences in size and design.

also pics of the 17" along side the 15" for size.

and some benchmarks tests vs old 17" and current 15".
 
Curious too see what happens, but I bet they'll still sell like hotcakes though...

So this means they are NOT overpriced...as most Apple products nowadays, by the way...otherwise they wouldn't be so successful...if the market has willingness to pay for a product, the pricing is right.

And no, let's not start comparing with lower-class PC laptops, please...
 
I just sold my 17" PowerBook and swore I would never spend that kind of money on a laptop, again. It really does not make any sense. $2,799 is truly an outrageous amount of money. At least I got 5 years out of my PowerBook!
 
I think back to the early days of the telephone. They had a choice... charge alot of money and make them accessible to a few people or charge less and make it affordable for everyone. Guess what happened.

There is a company in the computer sector that takes this approach, Dell. This morning it is trading at $9.71 a share while Apple is at $90.90 a share.

Dell's 1y Target Est: $ 13.23 and has market capitalization of $18.8B
Apple's 1y Target Est: $125.36 and has market capitalization of $83.8B

Further Apple, has nearly $20 billion in cash reserves and is debt free. I think the team at Apple is doing just fine without most of the sage marketing and business advice I read in this forum.
 
Curious too see what happens, but I bet they'll still sell like hotcakes though...

I'm sure they'll sell, Apple name is on it, of course. I just can't see myself paying $3,000 for a laptop, that I'll probably get rid of in a yr/half-2.
 
only had they announced this along with the 13" macbooks, I would have bought one. Now I really want one even though I have the new macbooks grrr
 
For those of you complaining about the pricing, go buy a MB or a dell. The 17" notebooks apple makes are meant to be high performance. If that's what you're looking for in a notebook it comes with a premium.

Plus i think the unibody MBs and MBPs look way cooler than anything else out there!
 
For those of you complaining about the pricing, go buy a MB or a dell. The 17" notebooks apple makes are meant to be high performance. If that's what you're looking for in a notebook it comes with a premium.

Plus i think the unibody MBs and MBPs look way cooler than anything else out there!

Yeah they won't buy it. That is the point.
 
There is a company in the computer sector that takes this approach, Dell. This morning it is trading at $9.71 a share while Apple is at $90.90 a share.

Dell's 1y Target Est: $ 13.23 and has market capitalization of $18.8B
Apple's 1y Target Est: $125.36 and has market capitalization of $83.8B

Further Apple, has nearly $20 billion in cash reserves and is debt free. I think the team at Apple is doing just fine without most of the sage marketing and business advice I read in this forum.

Not to mention the lesson that he learned from Mr. Putin a couple of days ago...it was simply awesome:

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/41258/113/

Video here:

http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm?clipSRC=mms://media2.bloomberg.com/cache/veqpJTc0Xr6o.asf

With his comment on software, I am also pretty sure he reminded Dell of who rules the roost...definitely not Dell. :rolleyes:
 
We got ourselves a Wikifreak.. ;)

I did confirm everything to make sure my memory wasn't playing tricks on me, but as someone who waited on the edge of their seat for a first-generation MBP? I remembered my choices pretty clearly (even the last-minute pre-ship clock speed increase that bumped my order from 1.83 to 2.0GHz.)

It was the first gen 2.4 core 2 duo, not the first gen MBP. There were other 2.4 revisions after that. I got it when they switched from core duo, to core 2 duo. Does this make more sense now??

Absolutely. I expected that was what you meant from the outset, I was just having a little fun pointing out that it wasn't really a first-generation machine. My current MBP is the same 2.4GHz model you have, having passed the original 2.0 to my wife (who just upgraded to the newer Air since she's fond of traveling light.) I couldn't quite pull the trigger on the unibody for myself, though it has been tempting. I'm waiting for an upgrade to the Nehalem mobile CPUs - hopefully this fall?
 
I don't know anyone who has got "matte" so I think it's probably going to be 90/10 in the glossy to matte department. If that.

If you order now you should get it by March..that's how popular these are.

Although I agree that a lot of people have opted for the glossy screen of the 15" MBP's in the past, I think the new 17" MBP's will have a much higher rate of matte displays that the old 15".

Simply because a decent amount of 15" MBP owners are just rich kids whose parents buy them whatever computer they want, whereas a lot higher percentage of 17" owners are actually professionals who want matte screens.
 
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