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17" Unibody MacBook Pro with Non-Removable Extended-Life Battery

seems like THAT would piss off pros!

So unless its like 10hr battery, I don't think it go over to well!

And a 999 Unibody MB would be lovely!
 
So many people getting up in arms over a rumor. Yes, Apple has a history of integrated batteries, and so far it's been a non-issue. Apple also has a history of innovating, and it's possible, just possible, they've blown past some battery efficiency barrier that the rest of the industry is limited to. It's possible the 17" will have insane battery life using some new technology. Snow Leopard should also help to improve battery life for everyone's laptops.
 
ugh.. I am going to whackmyselfovertheheadwitharubberchicken if they lower the new macbook prices.. Oh well.. :(
 
It does seem counter intuitive to have a non-removable battery. Obviously, you can save some space and also give yourself more placement options by not having to worry about providing a replaceable battery. It kind of depends on what the extent of the Extended-Life battery is. Generally, I always keep an extra battery with every laptop I've had, however I rarely end up using one lately because it's easy to find an outlet in an airport and I rarely take flights over 3 hours. However a typical laptop battery will only last reasonably around 2 years, and then it either won't hold a charge at all or the charge is half or less. This isn't a problem for me because I never keep a laptop for more than a year, however I think it is more typical for people to keep laptops for around 3 years, especially Mac users, because of the expense. I'm sure Apple will provide a replacement service.
 
Remster said:
Well, at least it's something worth talking about. I'm kinda getting tired of watching my dashboard countdown to the Philnote.
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+1. News is usually slow on the weekends, unfortunately. Hopefully this will be an entertaining keynote.
 
dantheman325013 said:
How will making the battery built in increase battery life? :confused: Can someone explain that?
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More room for battery when you take away the parts to house the battery, lock it in place etc.

While this is an intriguing design decision, I would bet against it, considering the very space conscientiousness design found in the new MacBooks
 
just imagine if sony screws up the battery cells again like 2 years ago. if they again recall like 100.000 laptop batteries, do 100.000 macbook pro users have to send in their laptop to get the battery replaced? well I'm sure that's far more environmental friendly than just sending in the battery in a padded envelope, lol. apple is getting weird (if the story's true).
 
dantheman325013 said:
How will making the battery built in increase battery life? :confused: Can someone explain that?
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Its possible rather than the usual Lithium Ion Batteries that they've opted to use Silver Oxide Batteries which can hold 3 to 4 times the charge however they cost well over 10 times more as theyre such a new device, and i doubt Apple would expend so much to get this new tech in theyre 17" laptops.
 
miketcool said:
Fine by me, just don't lose the matte screen!
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If the 17" is going the Unibody route then that means its going to have the glass covering the screen which means no matte option. I guess Apple are hoping that people just get over their matte screens already and go with what they deem a better product.
 
Stebus said:
If the 17" is going the Unibody route then that means its going to have the glass covering the screen which means no matte option. I guess Apple are hoping that people just get over their matte screens already and go with what they deem a better product.
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We always knew the 17" was going down the Unibody route since October
 
I'm kind of expecting the 17" MBP to become as thin as the MBA, perhaps a little thicker, but not as thick as the 15" MBP.
 
I have two 15" Macbook Pros and both of their batteries died in less than a year. There is no way apple would do this!
 
dual64bit said:
I'm kind of expecting the 17" MBP to become as thin as the MBA, perhaps a little thicker, but not as thick as the 15" MBP.
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Its possible, as long as theyre not planning to upgrade the specs from the 15" versions at all, then that gives them 2" extra to spread things thinner.
 
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All these complaints, and this thing will still sell well. I have an HP laptop now, and I never unplug the thing unless I have to. If Apple wants to make the battery non replaceable, fine by me. But I am amused at the number of Apple fanboys who are gonna be "done" with Apple due to a non-replaceable battery.

I would love it if HP took the same approach. I would gladly trade off a replaceable battery for extended battery life. I never take the stupid thing off anyway. And like I said, since I hardly ever unplug it, the battery serves for me a back-up for power failures and to allow for quick work at a friends house without having to deal with the plug. So I hardly use the thing cordless anyway. To be honest, I'm more likely to move over to Mac if the battery is non-replaceable but lasts a long time.

The truth is Apple has always been about controling every aspect of their products. You knew that. This is not a new strategy for Apple. That's why their marketshare didn't grow as fast a Microsoft's. But it's also why Apple has a name for quality.

Stop whining. I know for a fact some of the people complaining will be one of the ones who will be in line the day it comes out. If you don't like it, then don't buy it. That's the only thing Apple will respond to.
 
ahh

Matthew Yohe said:
More room for battery when you take away the parts to house the battery, lock it in place etc.

While this is an intriguing design decision, I would bet against it, considering the very space conscientiousness design found in the new MacBooks
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ahh i see. Couldn't possibly free up a dramatic amount of space though.
 
It's the elimination of the plastic macbook, and hopeful price drop on the aluminum one that sounds exciting to me. That's a hell of a lovable (and sellable) machine, the aluminum, but out of a lot of people's price range.

While internal batteries on the 17 wouldn't be my choice, I don't think it's worth getting worked up about for most. An increase in battery life vs. non-removability, no big deal. When I need more than 3 hours, I just bring my power adapter anyway. And the 17 inch? Few are interested in paying so much to lug so much. 15 and 13 are where the vast majority of the money goes, guarenteed.

What I'd like to see is an update to the air. It's so close to being wonderful, but it's just a little too impractical/indulgent to sell well, I think. I'd seen more unibody's by the time they'd been out 3 weeks than I have seen Air's, period.
 
lifeinhd said:
Oh, they'd better not! I'd rather have a removable battery than a larger capacity one... or even better, two batteries in at the same time, so I don't have to shut down the machine to swap batteries.
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That's what I think. A slim battery under the keyboard, and a regular full-sized battery in the bay. Maybe they'll (optionally) use the 15" battery and this one, so you can BTO a second HDD (or a SSD boot drive).
 
dantheman325013 said:
How will making the battery built in increase battery life? :confused: Can someone explain that?
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Pretty simple really. With a battery that you can remove, the battery is a set shape and therefore limited on it's storage capabilities. However, since batteries can be any shape or size, if you build it in you could fill every nook and crany of the notebook with battery circuitry. Thereby increasing the storage.

It's a design issue. You can either have a removable battery with low storage; or have a built in battery and have more storage. And since there is a lot of open space even still in modern notebooks, it makes sense to fill those cracks with a battery.

I will concede to this however: if Apple is just building in a brick battery, then I question the logic. Their move would only make since if they plan to make the battery be in several locations within the frame.
 
ChrisN said:
People never thought that there would be a cell phone with a non removable battery but Apple did it....

ChrisN
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Difference is, cell phone's and batteries have similar lifespans, but computers are expected to last longer. pretty much nobody keeps a phone for longer than 2 years, because that's the contract length. But computers? I hope for four years out of mine, at which point the battery will be long dead.
 
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