2.2.1 is out

[sananda]

YOU use miles

i use miles along with just about everyone else in this country

BUT THE OFFICIAL SYSTEM IS THE METRIC SYSTEM FOR ALL EUROPEAN COUNTRY, UK INCLUDED.
We still use both because there are people like you that do not know this.

there isn't a single speed limit expressed in kilometres or a road sign (prohibitory or otherwise) expressed in kilometres.

we do not use both because i don't KNOW something; we use miles because that is the system in place.

Stop complaining, at least this is not a bug

as i said, we use miles.

 

[LostLogik]

It's not about decimalising anything, it's about using a standard system with some basis in nature rather than some entirely arbitrary system of measurement.

Actually, the foot does have a sound basis. It has been used as a unit of measurement since before 2000BC and was based upon degree of longitude. the circumference of the earth divided into 360 degrees, and subdivided the degree for shorter distances. One degree of longitude comprised 600 stadia. One stadium was divided into 600 feet. One mile was 10 stadia or 6000 feet. This is essentially the same mile we have today in the Western hemisphere although the modern foot is slightly longer, possibly explained by an ancient Egyptian measure of the degree of longitude made near Thebes compared to a redefinition of the length of the foot referencing the degree of longitude at the equator. The difference in the length of the geodesic foot measured at these two locations would give the modern mile, 6000 ancient Greek feet or 10 stadia, and 5280 equatorial feet.

Compared with the metre which is from about the late 1700s.

 

[corydoras]

"My iphones broken"

All those people complain about the update not working, are just Microsoft employees trying to scare people about their iphone, to make the zune problem with counting a date seem less bad.

 

[cdembek]

I thought my iPhone was the only one doing that! I just updated to 2.2.1 and I'm still getting the same problem with the keys. Not so good on the bug fixing!

I have that same issue, tends to be the "C" key. Also Safari app loads much slower, including when u click the new page button!

 

[GoCubsGo]

All those people complain about the update not working, are just Microsoft employees trying to scare people about their iphone, to make the zune problem with counting a date seem less bad.

Actually troll, I can confirm that at least one firmware update has rendered my iPhone useless for a period of time while I backed it out of the update. To do so, I had to use an entirely different computer to restore and reinstall the update. So no, all of these people who are having problems aren't MS employees. The Zune's limitations when compared to the iPhone is that it cannot make or receive calls. There's no reason to compare the two.

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I usually let the masses update and then I update a few weeks later. This allows people to find all the quirks and the work-arounds for people like me who don't want to put up with a failed attempt to update firmware.

 

[sychee]

What ever happened to Push Notification services for all apps? Howcome no one has brought this issue to light?

Oh, wait, it's obvious now! Jobs meant September '09!

I doubt it will ever arrive - not until the next iPhone hardware revision. Why? Though the software is ready, the hardware is simply not able to provide the battery juice that push-notification requires. Think about it, by just turning on the Push service for mobileMe, and you will immediately see a big drop in battery, guess what happens when more apps start tapping on this service and I am sure Apple Engineers know of this issues.

 

[The Phazer]

Think about it, by just turning on the Push service for mobileMe, and you will immediately see a big drop in battery, guess what happens when more apps start tapping on this service !

Erm... the whole point of push notification is that it shouldn't make any difference whatsoever if you already use MobileMe.

Though I suspect background notifications have just been scrapped entirely for allowing multiple applications to run on the new iPhone's beefier hardware.

Phazer

 

[dmd717]

Still no Outlook search or copy/paste! What's the hold up?

Still no capability to SEARCH Outlook/Exchange mailboxes??

...also, what's so technologically advanced with cut/paste?

Sometimes it seems that Apple is so "far ahead" of everyone else that they forget some of the basics.

If they really want the iPhone to gain popularity in the business user sector, it will help to add these two simple features.

Still love my iPhone, but would help in my job if these 2 features were added.

 

[MikePA]

Give it 30 or so years, and people won't even remember what the mile is.

This is the same thing 'the experts' said in the 70s when the "we know what's best for everyone" people in Congress passed the 'Metric Conversion Act of 1975' which failed miserably.

 

[sychee]

Erm... the whole point of push notification is that it shouldn't make any difference whatsoever if you already use MobileMe.

Though I suspect background notifications have just been scrapped entirely for allowing multiple applications to run on the new iPhone's beefier hardware.

Phazer

With more applications running at background:
(1) There might be insufficient runtime memory to support these applications (iPhone and iPod Touch comes with 128MB of runtime memory. This memory is then shared among multiple system processes and you are left with about 30MB for your applications, and that is before background notification. Guess what happens when there is insufficient memory? Your applications begin to close inadvertently)
(2) Higher processor usage to manage multiple background applications.

All these eat up the battery juice.

 

[welles13]

Apple should have just told the truth and put in the description that this update is to break yellowsnow.

seriously, an update for safari fixes..get the f-ck!

Yep. Of course the sheep will be on here telling us about how it all feels 'snappier' now.

 

[locust76]

All those people complain about the update not working, are just Microsoft employees trying to scare people about their iphone, to make the zune problem with counting a date seem less bad.

Yes... because everything Apple has done, does and will do is 100% perfect and flawless. Any flaws, or so-called flaws, must be a result of espionage on Microsoft's part.

 

[leodavinci0]

No problems here after a day of use

Update went without a hitch. Remember to be patient when the phone is reloading and updating. Reading between the lines of the few with issues, it seems they may have thought the update stopped and unplugged the iPhone before it was done. Be Patient.

 

[sychee]

Still no capability to SEARCH Outlook/Exchange mailboxes??

...also, what's so technologically advanced with cut/paste?

Sometimes it seems that Apple is so "far ahead" of everyone else that they forget some of the basics.

If they really want the iPhone to gain popularity in the business user sector, it will help to add these two simple features.

Still love my iPhone, but would help in my job if these 2 features were added.

There will not be any WOW effect when these features get introduce. In my opinion, just like other companies, Apple only adds features that benefit them. Think about it, every man-hours = $$$$. Will you spend $$$$ on features that does not benefit? After all, Apple is running a business not a charity organisation.

 

[leodavinci0]

Yes... because everything Apple has done, does and will do is 100% perfect and flawless. Any flaws, or so-called flaws, must be a result of espionage on Microsoft's part.

I won't go find the citations, but it has been documented that Microsoft has done this. I don't remember from what site, but they found out a lot (read: too many) comments were coming in from IP addresses from Redmond.

 

[vvebsta]

I doubt it will ever arrive - not until the next iPhone hardware revision. Why? Though the software is ready, the hardware is simply not able to provide the battery juice that push-notification requires. Think about it, by just turning on the Push service for mobileMe, and you will immediately see a big drop in battery, guess what happens when more apps start tapping on this service and I am sure Apple Engineers know of this issues.

Did anyone actually watch the infamous conference video where they not only set the date of release (which they failed on) but also where they explained that push was actually going to save battery life because everything was going to run through one single connection that only gave out notifications for new info. It seems like people are confused thinking the whole app will be running even when it's closed. This is not the case according to them. Think about it, you don't get a huge drop in battery life being constantly connected to the cellular network. Push would be the same type of thing.

 

[leodavinci0]

I am unable to sync my 1st generation iphone after updating to 2.2.1. Anybody having the same issue?

No. I've synced my 1st gen once since the update, with no problems. Try shutting off both the iPhone and computer, and try syncing again.

 

[locust76]

I won't go find the citations, but it has been documented that Microsoft has done this. I don't remember from what site, but they found out a lot (read: too many) comments were coming in from IP addresses from Redmond.

Well, I won't go find the citations, but it has been documented that Apple runs an underground baby market. I don't remember from what site, but they found out a lot of (read: too many) babies were being sold by Mr. Jobs himself.

 

[locust76]

I doubt it will ever arrive - not until the next iPhone hardware revision. Why? Though the software is ready, the hardware is simply not able to provide the battery juice that push-notification requires. Think about it, by just turning on the Push service for mobileMe, and you will immediately see a big drop in battery, guess what happens when more apps start tapping on this service and I am sure Apple Engineers know of this issues.

No, see, you're thinking of Fetch. Push sends the data to your phone, which eliminates the need for excessive background processes and battery drain. Fetch causes your phone to periodically check for new data, like emails.

Push notification is like getting a call. Your phone doesn't constantly check for calls, rather the calls are sent to the phone.

 

[amro]

Annnyyywaaayyy, back to 2.2.1

One thing I've noticed is that WiFi now reconnects almost instantly after I "slide to unlock". I noticed back when 2.2 was released that it took about 10-20 sec before the WiFi image appeared and WiFi to work. This was noticeable, because quite often, I would immediately go to Safari after unlocking only to get a message that the web page was unavailable. Now, it's instant. And yes, I've rebooted before and tried a clean update to see if it made a differnce in 2.2

 

[Knowlege Bomb]

Annnyyywaaayyy, back to 2.2.1

One thing I've noticed is that WiFi now reconnects almost instantly after I "slide to unlock". I noticed back when 2.2 was released that it took about 10-20 sec before the WiFi image appeared and WiFi to work. This was noticeable, because quite often, I would immediately go to Safari after unlocking only to get a message that the web page was unavailable. Now, it's instant. And yes, I've rebooted before and tried a clean update to see if it made a differnce in 2.2

This is the first good news I've heard (read) about this update. This has always bothered me.

Still not enough incentive to lose my jailbreak though...

 

[aperantos]

This debate over the UK's laws on units is rather silly. People seem to be confusing recent laws regarding the marking of goods for trade (which with certain exceptions must be measured in metric, but can still also be given in imperial units) with measurements of distance, which carry no such legal obligation. In fact road signs must, by law, give distances in miles and yards.

All of which though is as irrelevant as the Holy Days and Fasting Days Act, 1551 which is still on the statue books and makes it a crime not to attend Church on Christmas Day, and makes it illegal to do so using any method of transport other than walking.

It is not really Apple's place to worry about pushing the agenda of one campaigning group or another, but to produce products for consumers based on their local needs. And regardless of which system you favour, the majority of people measures large distances in miles unless it is in relation to swimming or athletics races.

While having these national presets makes the iPhone simple to configure, there really should be the option of customizing the time format, distance units etc. just as on a desktop computer because it really is not so simple as to say everyone uses the same system or has the same needs just because of their nationality.

That all said, I am glad Apple are releasing bug fixes and giving me the option rather than denying me them as some people seem to favour.

Michael.

 

[sychee]

No, see, you're thinking of Fetch. Push sends the data to your phone, which eliminates the need for excessive background processes and battery drain. Fetch causes your phone to periodically check for new data, like emails.

Push notification is like getting a call. Your phone doesn't constantly check for calls, rather the calls are sent to the phone.

I see... thanks. In that case, I simply don't understand the delay.

 

[leodavinci0]

Well, I won't go find the citations, but it has been documented that Apple runs an underground baby market. I don't remember from what site, but they found out a lot of (read: too many) babies were being sold by Mr. Jobs himself.

You're right. Without citing I shouldn't post these things. I went looking for it and couldn't find the site (it was a couple years ago). I do remember the site admin posting that this was done.

 

[locust76]

I see... thanks. In that case, I simply don't understand the delay.

It's a mystery to me, too. It WAS working for my Yahoo mail, but it hasn't worked in months. It probably has something to do with the fact that the phone (or any phone for that matter) probably doesn't maintain a constant data connection with the cellular network, meaning the phone is not always visible on the data network. When it does spool up again to connect to data, it probably receives a different address, making push notification difficult. You'd almost HAVE to have some kind of active background service polling and updating the push-ing server with the phone's current IP. That's assuming they only use IP for mobile data networks. Mobile providers could be using some other protocol, but I think the principle would still the same. Without a more-or-less constant connection, the network wouldn't necessarily know where to send push packets.

But it WAS working!