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2.6GHz PowerMac G5s at MacWorld SF 2004?
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DeepIn2U
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Daytona 500; speed.
m_gerbik, "kittens eating pop rocks candy?" Man I do hope you didn't try that in your homicidal childhood. Hehe, kinda sounds funny when you picture it in your mind, but its cruel if you do it.
Now with all these peeps that have G5 PowerMacs, Opterons, and Athlon 64-FX-51s what exactly are you doing with your machines that you needed/want them for????
Games not included because if you bought your new system to get the highest frame rates in Quake, Doom, or Unreal Tourny, then your the mass fools that the computing industry loves, and I mean that lovingly, not as an insult. The choice of "fool" was that performance would be better for games if you already have a 1Ghz 32-bit cpu if you max out your ram and get the best video card and faster HDD performance.
64-bit processors promise better efficiency in executing code for office applications and mainly for number crunching like in biotech apps and in database intranet/internet/datamining/data-storage and recall apps. All the big corps use it for things like this in majority.
Even the latest Photoshop results on all cpus liked more RAM than cpu speed and generation. Video editing I'm not sure on. Home user use probably not, but for what that producer (of the film Twin Peaks and the original Dune) is using it for in online movie delivery and editing then I'm sure that is pretty cpu intensive.
I want to run a web-server, a forum along with stats site to deliver those stats to cellphone users worldwide along with my office app needs. When I get a DV camcorder then it'll pay for itself - the PowerMac G5 I mean.
Now what about you, do you need a 2.6Ghz machine? I know we all want one, but how much will it increase or current usuage on our existing machines, especially given the advances in OS X or the lack of in XP Pro SP1a and the upcoming SP2.
m_gerbik, "kittens eating pop rocks candy?" Man I do hope you didn't try that in your homicidal childhood. Hehe, kinda sounds funny when you picture it in your mind, but its cruel if you do it.
Now with all these peeps that have G5 PowerMacs, Opterons, and Athlon 64-FX-51s what exactly are you doing with your machines that you needed/want them for????
Games not included because if you bought your new system to get the highest frame rates in Quake, Doom, or Unreal Tourny, then your the mass fools that the computing industry loves, and I mean that lovingly, not as an insult. The choice of "fool" was that performance would be better for games if you already have a 1Ghz 32-bit cpu if you max out your ram and get the best video card and faster HDD performance.
64-bit processors promise better efficiency in executing code for office applications and mainly for number crunching like in biotech apps and in database intranet/internet/datamining/data-storage and recall apps. All the big corps use it for things like this in majority.
Even the latest Photoshop results on all cpus liked more RAM than cpu speed and generation. Video editing I'm not sure on. Home user use probably not, but for what that producer (of the film Twin Peaks and the original Dune) is using it for in online movie delivery and editing then I'm sure that is pretty cpu intensive.
I want to run a web-server, a forum along with stats site to deliver those stats to cellphone users worldwide along with my office app needs. When I get a DV camcorder then it'll pay for itself - the PowerMac G5 I mean.
Now what about you, do you need a 2.6Ghz machine? I know we all want one, but how much will it increase or current usuage on our existing machines, especially given the advances in OS X or the lack of in XP Pro SP1a and the upcoming SP2.
Aside from more speed...
...what else do folks anticipate on the rev'd up G5? Faster Superdrive? Other improvements?
Also, what changes (aside from more real estate) do folks expect on the new displays?
My credit card is burning a hole in my pocket...
Cheers.
...what else do folks anticipate on the rev'd up G5? Faster Superdrive? Other improvements?
Also, what changes (aside from more real estate) do folks expect on the new displays?
My credit card is burning a hole in my pocket...
Cheers.
pgwalsh
macrumors 68000
Re: Aside from more speed...
8X superdrives would be great.
2 optical drives would be nice.
option for 4 internal drives would be great, but not necessary.
surround sound outputs for mini jacks would be great.
A hidden camera in SJ's office would be nice too.
Well I'm not expecting anything, but I'm hoping new displays with the aluminum look and less edge on the sides. I hope they have higher contrast ratios and are a bit cheaper. Would be great to se a 24" to a 30" or larger. Granted I couldn't afford it, but it would be cool.
8X superdrives would be great.
2 optical drives would be nice.
option for 4 internal drives would be great, but not necessary.
surround sound outputs for mini jacks would be great.
A hidden camera in SJ's office would be nice too.
neonart
macrumors 65816
Re: Daytona 500; speed.
Well, Im one of those fools looking for better gaming. 🙂 My DP G4 with maxed RAM and a Radeon 9800 can't deliver FPS like a SP 1.8 G5 with 1/4 the RAM and an FX5200 that I tried recently.
Alot of what I do my machine does great- but I do alot of gaming, and that's just where the 167Mhz system bus simply does not kick it.
For me it's more like a Hobby than a need. (And we all know that hobbies can get expensive!)
Well, Im one of those fools looking for better gaming. 🙂 My DP G4 with maxed RAM and a Radeon 9800 can't deliver FPS like a SP 1.8 G5 with 1/4 the RAM and an FX5200 that I tried recently.
Alot of what I do my machine does great- but I do alot of gaming, and that's just where the 167Mhz system bus simply does not kick it.
For me it's more like a Hobby than a need. (And we all know that hobbies can get expensive!)
Why I need a G5 ;-)
- I need a Rev. B - I want a 100% working System
- I need it for Adobe Creative Suit
- I need it for Macromedia Studio MX 2004 Professional + Director MX
- I need it for Eclipse and maybe xCode
- I need it for AW Maya 5
- I need it for GarageBand and
Soundtrack
- I need it for Warcraft, Doom 3 and WoW
- I need it to watch Movies and listen to Music; I need to purchase a 2nd 22" CRT Monitor for 450 Euros (Yeah nice 2x 22" !!!1)
- I need a System that will still be usable in 4 Years - I will purchase Apple Care and I hope to use the System for up to 5 Years.
== I need a System to work on, do gfx, sound, programming, design and webstuff, I need System to play on sometimes, and I need a "No-Problem" System.
I still do not know what System to go for (2.0 2,3 or 2,6)
I guess I will chose the 2,3 because it will for sure be 90nm Process and won't be THAT expensive while I predict that the 2,6 will be MORE expensive than then the actual 2,0 DP.
- I need a Rev. B - I want a 100% working System
- I need it for Adobe Creative Suit
- I need it for Macromedia Studio MX 2004 Professional + Director MX
- I need it for Eclipse and maybe xCode
- I need it for AW Maya 5
- I need it for GarageBand and
Soundtrack
- I need it for Warcraft, Doom 3 and WoW
- I need it to watch Movies and listen to Music; I need to purchase a 2nd 22" CRT Monitor for 450 Euros (Yeah nice 2x 22" !!!1)
- I need a System that will still be usable in 4 Years - I will purchase Apple Care and I hope to use the System for up to 5 Years.
== I need a System to work on, do gfx, sound, programming, design and webstuff, I need System to play on sometimes, and I need a "No-Problem" System.
I still do not know what System to go for (2.0 2,3 or 2,6)
I guess I will chose the 2,3 because it will for sure be 90nm Process and won't be THAT expensive while I predict that the 2,6 will be MORE expensive than then the actual 2,0 DP.
low end G5
aaaarg, dual 1.6 would be so much cooler than single 2.0
i'm in the market for a low end G5. if the low end becomes single 2.0, i think i'll wait for the refurb dual 1.8's, which ought to logically be discontinued at the same time as the top 2 machines get speedbumped.
aaaarg, dual 1.6 would be so much cooler than single 2.0
i'm in the market for a low end G5. if the low end becomes single 2.0, i think i'll wait for the refurb dual 1.8's, which ought to logically be discontinued at the same time as the top 2 machines get speedbumped.
Sir_Giggles
macrumors 6502a
On January 26th, 2004, Apple will unveil the new Dual 2.6GHz PowerMac G5 tower at a special press event held at Cupertino Headquarters.
In addition to commemorating the 20th anniversary of the original Macintosh, Apple will be unveiling a redesigned line-up of all-new Cinema Displays which includes a 30" Cinema Display.
You heard it here first.
In addition to commemorating the 20th anniversary of the original Macintosh, Apple will be unveiling a redesigned line-up of all-new Cinema Displays which includes a 30" Cinema Display.
You heard it here first.
NusuniAdmin
macrumors 6502a
i hope
if apple releases 2.6 soon that would be great. Cause If i get really good grades at school my father is going to buy me a computer (within a reasonable price). And if this comes true that means the dual 1.8 and 2.0 will be cheap as heck. Or....at least a few hundred less. I predict the current dual 2.0 will be about 2k-2,300 dollars when the 2.6 is released. This would be great, that would be single 1.6 will be around 1,200 maybe and the dual 1.8 will be around 1,500-1,700. I used a g5 the first day it wus at compusa and i have loved it since then, cant wait to have one on my desk next to my g4, which I currently use as a little server.
If this comes true it will be SwEeT!!!! but wait, i wonder if the g4 powermacs on apple.com will ever come down in price. If my prediction comes true then why would u buy a dual 1.25 g4 for 1,500 when u can buy a dual 1.8 g5 (with superdrive) for about 1,700.
if apple releases 2.6 soon that would be great. Cause If i get really good grades at school my father is going to buy me a computer (within a reasonable price). And if this comes true that means the dual 1.8 and 2.0 will be cheap as heck. Or....at least a few hundred less. I predict the current dual 2.0 will be about 2k-2,300 dollars when the 2.6 is released. This would be great, that would be single 1.6 will be around 1,200 maybe and the dual 1.8 will be around 1,500-1,700. I used a g5 the first day it wus at compusa and i have loved it since then, cant wait to have one on my desk next to my g4, which I currently use as a little server.
If this comes true it will be SwEeT!!!! but wait, i wonder if the g4 powermacs on apple.com will ever come down in price. If my prediction comes true then why would u buy a dual 1.25 g4 for 1,500 when u can buy a dual 1.8 g5 (with superdrive) for about 1,700.
Re: Re: Re: Maybe this is my grumpy mood talking, but
I believe all that you're saying, except for the part about you having a girlfriend.
I believe all that you're saying, except for the part about you having a girlfriend.
deputy_doofy
macrumors 65816
Re: Re: Re: Re: Maybe this is my grumpy mood talking, but
Yeah, good one Wilco. He's probably still calculating that statement. Hence, that is why we all now smell smoke. 😛
Yeah, good one Wilco. He's probably still calculating that statement. Hence, that is why we all now smell smoke. 😛
Re: Daytona 500; speed.
I'm sick to death of reading questions of this ilk (and equally sick of my compulsive need to reply to them 😀 )... but nonetheless:
I regularly MAX OUT my beloved dualie 1GHz G4 with massive multitrack audio sessions in ProTools and Digital Performer. Running 70+ tracks of 24bit audio, along with DSP-hungry plug-ins and soft instruments, is a daily occurrence for myself and my peers in the audio post/music production/film scoring side of things. I long for a day when my trusty Mac G5 (G6? G7?) will be able to handle everything I can conceivably throw at it, with ease: high audio track counts, convolution reverbs, unlimited synth and sampler instantiations, multiple streams of sync'ed video playback, etc. With the G5 era we are only just beginning to approach the kind of horsepower that will (hopefully) allow me to streamline my massive audio rig and begin to eliminate many of my outboard synths/samplers/processors... but trust me, I will use every last ounce of horsepower I can get my little paws on, and I assure you that I am speaking for a sizable chunk of the Mac pro audio/music community when I say this.
Now 'scuze me while I go play a ridiculously high-FPS game of Quake. 😀
I'm sick to death of reading questions of this ilk (and equally sick of my compulsive need to reply to them 😀 )... but nonetheless:
I regularly MAX OUT my beloved dualie 1GHz G4 with massive multitrack audio sessions in ProTools and Digital Performer. Running 70+ tracks of 24bit audio, along with DSP-hungry plug-ins and soft instruments, is a daily occurrence for myself and my peers in the audio post/music production/film scoring side of things. I long for a day when my trusty Mac G5 (G6? G7?) will be able to handle everything I can conceivably throw at it, with ease: high audio track counts, convolution reverbs, unlimited synth and sampler instantiations, multiple streams of sync'ed video playback, etc. With the G5 era we are only just beginning to approach the kind of horsepower that will (hopefully) allow me to streamline my massive audio rig and begin to eliminate many of my outboard synths/samplers/processors... but trust me, I will use every last ounce of horsepower I can get my little paws on, and I assure you that I am speaking for a sizable chunk of the Mac pro audio/music community when I say this.
Now 'scuze me while I go play a ridiculously high-FPS game of Quake. 😀
NusuniAdmin
macrumors 6502a
in the future...
The apple G19, the worlds fastest most powerful personal computer. Running with a 1024 bit processor at 5 exahertz (yes that is a real thing, look at it on http://computer.howstuffworks.com/bytes4.htm )
[edit: by real thing i mean exahertz, not a 5 exahert g19 haha]
The apple G19, the worlds fastest most powerful personal computer. Running with a 1024 bit processor at 5 exahertz (yes that is a real thing, look at it on http://computer.howstuffworks.com/bytes4.htm )
[edit: by real thing i mean exahertz, not a 5 exahert g19 haha]
Re: in the future...
damn it, i thought you were saying that that processor was real. i knew it was fake but i thought it would be like an article about it or something
Re: Daytona 500; speed.
Nice Dual 64bit 2+GHz G5 with 1-2Gb of RAM should handle the processing load nicely with the right outboard audio hardware.
I was about to buy a Dual 2GHz but with the new faster models rumoured to be out next week, I'm waiting,
Personally I'm planning on running around 30-60 virtual instrument tracks in CubaseSX2.0 along with ReWired Reason 2.5 with overall sub 20ms latency.
Nice Dual 64bit 2+GHz G5 with 1-2Gb of RAM should handle the processing load nicely with the right outboard audio hardware.
I was about to buy a Dual 2GHz but with the new faster models rumoured to be out next week, I'm waiting,
NusuniAdmin
macrumors 6502a
Re: Re: Maybe this is my grumpy mood talking, but
i agree. This person clearly has the same 'oohh..well a 2ghz pc processor must be the same as a 2gz mac processor' mentallity you would've thought the sexy G5s stamped out a year ago. Oh well...
i agree. This person clearly has the same 'oohh..well a 2ghz pc processor must be the same as a 2gz mac processor' mentallity you would've thought the sexy G5s stamped out a year ago. Oh well...
pgwalsh
macrumors 68000
Re: Re: Daytona 500; speed.
What in the world are you producing with 30 to 60 VST's at one time? Sheesh. Once I get up to 7 or 8 things start getting a little too crazy. Now we know once you have that many and some reverb then you're starting to suck CPU, but 60 VST's.... Are you making symphony music with VST's or something?
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