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Steve revised his statement by saying 3.0 ghz by end of summer. That isn't till mid september. (Late October if you live in arizona) :p Is this so hard to figure out?

Let it go people..........let it go.

:cool:
 
abc123 said:
that box looks kinda dusty, photoshop?

jep, fake, the alignment isn't right, and I don't think apple puts the ghz on the box? I don't really know, I haven't received such a box YET;), but it looks non-applish to me
 
I could see 2.6GHz now and 3GHz so soon at WWDC. It depends on what Apple has got. If they don't currently have 3GHz machines, they won't mention it.

"You can have a 2.6GHz model today but in 2 weeks there will be a better one for the same price". Where's the business sense in that?

Apple nearly always keeps secretive about upcoming releases. The PM G5s last year were an exception because they had to do something.

From Apple's point of view, there's lots of people waiting for G5s because they haven't been updated. Hence all those quotes about the G5 on the homepage. If they start selling 2.6GHz machines tomorrow all those people will buy (because they think it's "safe" to). Then in 2 weeks they may announce/ship 3GHz models (of course they may not). It will annoy a lot of people but it's a good way of clearing out some inventory of what may then become the middle machine in the line-up. I seem to remember single 1.8 owners being annoyed when the dual 1.8 came out (at a higher price point, mind).

Of course, maybe they will be quad 2.6GHz machines. Think Secret didn't rule that out.

Or maybe Think Secret is wrong for once.
 
What about Airport express?

Boxes for the 8th could just be boxes of Airport expresses. Just a thought. Steve isn't going to announce powermac speedbumps unless he has something really radical for WWDC.
 
gsdali said:
Boxes for the 8th could just be boxes of Airport expresses. Just a thought. Steve isn't going to announce powermac speedbumps unless he has something really radical for WWDC.
I read somewhere on the Apple site that they begin shipping in July. Besides, iTunes 4.6 doesn't appear to be ready yet.
 
I agree with a previous poster in that Apple may leave the 'Ultimate' slot open. Why do such a thing?

1) Steve can say 'i told you so'
2) There may be no time to go through the whole line-up - why? Because Tiger, iMac G5, Touch Screens, Hanging Screens, New PowerBooks, a Cube, 25th Anniversary Mac, etc (take you pick!)

It'll just be shaded out "Coming Soon" on their site. 'Tune in to WWDC to see what fills this space.'
 
ffakr said:
I think the eMac will go G5 soon. Reason? The 970fx is 65mm^2. It's tiny compared to other processors and it's fabbed on 300mm wafers. When the process bugs are worked out (IBM said a while ago they were worked out), then the G5 should cost quite a bit less than a G4 to produce.

If you don’t know what you’re talking about, perhaps you should stay quiet. 65 mm^2 ??? First, it’s not mm but nm. Second, the 970FX is on 90 nm, not 65. This makes your point very doubtful.
 
Veldek said:
If you don’t know what you’re talking about, perhaps you should stay quiet. 65 mm^2 ??? First, it’s not mm but nm. Second, the 970FX is on 90 nm, not 65. This makes your point very doubtful.

I think he was refering to the physical size of the chip. That being said, 65mm*65mm is not 'tiny' by any stretch of the imagination...
 
don't know if anyone has mentioned this before but:

Between March 28, 2004, and June 26, 2004, purchase a Power Mac G5 and a 23-inch Cinema HD Display at the same time — and get $500 back by mail (or get $300 back for education individual purchases).

two days before wwdc...
 
abc123 said:
don't know if anyone has mentioned this before but:

Between March 28, 2004, and June 26, 2004, purchase a Power Mac G5 and a 23-inch Cinema HD Display at the same time — and get $500 back by mail (or get $300 back for education individual purchases).

two days before wwdc...

So what exactly are you saying?

dumdidum...
 
xy14 said:
Who says that the PowerMac G5 will have the 3Ghz processor? Steve said that "We will be looking at 3Ghz within 12 months." Where in that sentence did he mention the PowerMac G5?

That is not what he said at all. Jobs took the stage and said, "What about the future? We're at 2 GHz today. IBM and Apple are today announcing that within 12 months, we'll be at 3GHz." Verbatim quote.
 
NicoMan said:
So what exactly are you saying?

dumdidum...
not sure if i can detect sarcasm there or not, it is hard over the internet.

just my thoughts are that maybe that particular deal was set up to clear out the older g5s and displays, or perhaps to avoid any confusion over which models were included/price changes they decided to finish right before new ones are released - wwdc.

all speculation, but we will be part way to knowing in a few hours anyway
 
NusuniAdmin said:
...just imagen in a few years.....at wwdc 2008 (i picked a random year)....steve jobs up on stage [...] This processor is no longer 64 bit, but we've gona all out to 128 bit.

I am not sure I will see a true 128Bit CPU in my lifetime, but I'd bet my left ball they will not be announced by 2008.

The adressing space of a 64 Bit machine is 4 billion time of that of a 32 Bitter - or put differently: you can stuff 4 billion time as much RAM into it. Gates' famous 640K comment comes from a time since when RAM amount has roughly gone up 1000 times (from 640KB to 640MB to pick a reasonable but arbitrary number) in 20 years. I see no reason why it would go up 4 million times as fast in the next 20 years. Most likely, we will see computers with 500GB RAM in 2025.

Of course, like the Altivec-units, some other ALUs might go 128Bit or even 256Bit - in other words, we will see a more flexible approach to bitnes.
 
abc123 said:
not sure if i can detect sarcasm there or not, it is hard over the internet.

just my thoughts are that maybe that particular deal was set up to clear out the older g5s and displays, or perhaps to avoid any confusion over which models were included/price changes they decided to finish right before new ones are released - wwdc.

all speculation, but we will be part way to knowing in a few hours anyway
You are right: it can be hard to detect sarcasm. And you guessed right: there was a hint of sarcasm.
Anyway... I could say 'No sh*t Sherlock' but that would be pushing it a bit.
No, seriously, I guess today we will know for sure the scope of that promotion. If we get PM revision today (or tomorrow) , I think it's fair to say that the displays were the target...
 
I've given up trying to work out when we see updated G5s - it's been imminent, next tuesday, by the end of may, end of February for so long that this seems like just more speculation (I hope I'm wrong of course)

If they do release 2.6 Ghz today then I take this to mean no 3 Ghz this summer. If they don't my bet is WWDC will see the 3 Ghz machine announced.

Either way I shall be getting my credit card out and enjoying the leap from a 733 Mhz G4 to a dual ??Ghz G5! :)
 
adamjay said:
but who wouldn't be happy with an announcement such as the above

I wouldn't, just because you completely forgot the videocards, new models shipping in sept. with radeon 9800 pro? You must be joking, they are already old, so they would have to last another 9 months? (3 months till september, 6 months lifecycle) not going to happen.
 
Timing...

Refresh my memory: when in the day are those updates supposed to take place? Specifically, how long are we supposed to wait until we declare it as a dead horse??? Not that I want to be pessimistic but I'm just getting mentally ready for a disappointment.
 
NicoMan said:
Refresh my memory: when in the day are those updates supposed to take place? Specifically, how long are we supposed to wait until we declare it as a dead horse??? Not that I want to be pessimistic but I'm just getting mentally ready for a disappointment.


From vague memory everything usually happens by 9 on a tuesday
I think if nothing happens by 8.30 its unlikely
 
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