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2.6GHz PowerMacs Tomorrow?
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windowsblowsass said:
Where is your punctuation?
They usually announce things at 10 a.m. PDT, so you have a while to wait.
I'd be glad to see upgraded processors in the machines, regardless of whether they have 3 GHz machines in August/September 2004.
I Agree. Whatever Ships I Will Buy
I Agree. Whatever Ships I Will Buy. I'm sorry I did not buy the dual 2 last October. I have held out as long as I can to get a G5 and this is IT. If, as the Think Secret article says, Apple will continue to sell the old models for those prices, more than two new models are unlikely. That would be dual 2.3 and dual 2.6. I can't see them making the spread only .2 GHz each. But who knows? We'll see soon enough I hope.thedogcow said:
ffakr said:
You bring up valid points, but I still don't think we'll see G5 eMacs for quite some time - into 2005 for sure. Apple just has too much else on its plate right now, and I could honestly see one more G4 update to the eMac line (bringing them up to 1.5 GHz) before a G5 goes into them.
the rule is
the rule is you have to go to bed, or Santa Jobs Wont show up
windowsblowsass said:
the rule is you have to go to bed, or Santa Jobs Wont show up
yoman said:Here it is
I can't even begin to imagine how hot that monster would be!
nmk said:
I am pretty sure useful, insightful and timeless thinking is not allowed on rumor sites
Rocketnam
I've already emailed about an order...
I've already emailed my reseller and asked for the first 2.6 he get's in. I'm going to ad a 23" HD display and have a kick ass system.
W
Multimedia said:
I've already emailed my reseller and asked for the first 2.6 he get's in. I'm going to ad a 23" HD display and have a kick ass system.
W
G5 pricing
I hope I'm wrong, too! FYI, the numbers I was referring to were directly from the ThinkSecret article (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/g5refresh.html), so what I was saying was that if the ThinkSecret article was correct, then this would be a mixed blessing...
Maxwell Devine said:
I hope I'm wrong, too! FYI, the numbers I was referring to were directly from the ThinkSecret article (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/g5refresh.html), so what I was saying was that if the ThinkSecret article was correct, then this would be a mixed blessing...
More refresh concerns
I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but if the ThinkSecret article is correct about the clearance pricing of the existing models, don't expect any mobo improvements (such as PCI Express) or increased base RAM in the new models, unless they carry substantially higher price tags.
We might not get any other improvements with this refresh, except for 8X SuperDrives.
I seriously hope this article is not entirely correct...
I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but if the ThinkSecret article is correct about the clearance pricing of the existing models, don't expect any mobo improvements (such as PCI Express) or increased base RAM in the new models, unless they carry substantially higher price tags.
We might not get any other improvements with this refresh, except for 8X SuperDrives.
I seriously hope this article is not entirely correct...
i diddr.Zoidberg said:
unless of course...
fo i have to sleep first man i cant handle this kind of pressure screw the powermacs
[excessively optimistic newbie prediction]
Dual 2.6 is the low end spec. Line up will be as follows:
Dual 2.6
Dual 2.8
Dual 3.0
[/excessively optimistic newbie prediction]
Dual 2.6 is the low end spec. Line up will be as follows:
Dual 2.6
Dual 2.8
Dual 3.0
[/excessively optimistic newbie prediction]
One thing's for sure... if they are released tomorrow, I'll order one tomorrow. If they're released at WWDC, I'll order one then. Just bring 'em on, for christ sake! My checkbook's waiting, and has been waiting for a long time. I can only hope my long wait will be worth it.
Show me what you got, Apple.
Show me what you got, Apple.
You are one among many. I'm interested in the price drops too, but not sure for which specific models until I see the prices.capdesign said:
logic, people?
I hate to break up this "Jobs promised me a 3.0 Ghz G5" and "Jobs didn't really promise you a G5" argument with a little logic, but....
(1) At last year's WWDC, the new G5s were NOT released. They were announced. They were not released until September. (And late September at that!)
(2) Steve Jobs certainly did make what I would call a definitive statement about reaching 3.0 Ghz in a 12-month timeframe (i.e., by this year's WWDC). You can argue about whether it was a "promise", or not, but the fact remains his language was not ambiguous.
So, why can't this be the case:
They planned to do an interim update of the G5s. It didn't go as smoothly as they had hoped. So, it's being delayed until now, and tomorrow (or whenever), they will release 2.6 Ghz G5s.
Then, at WWDC, they announce (note the difference) 3.0 Ghz G5s (at a higher price point than the 2.6s...maybe as a new workstation), just like they announced 2.0 Ghz ones last year, and they don't ship them until September?
This seems more likely to me than these stupid all-or-nothing scenarios everyone is getting their panties in a bunch about...
I hate to break up this "Jobs promised me a 3.0 Ghz G5" and "Jobs didn't really promise you a G5" argument with a little logic, but....
(1) At last year's WWDC, the new G5s were NOT released. They were announced. They were not released until September. (And late September at that!)
(2) Steve Jobs certainly did make what I would call a definitive statement about reaching 3.0 Ghz in a 12-month timeframe (i.e., by this year's WWDC). You can argue about whether it was a "promise", or not, but the fact remains his language was not ambiguous.
So, why can't this be the case:
They planned to do an interim update of the G5s. It didn't go as smoothly as they had hoped. So, it's being delayed until now, and tomorrow (or whenever), they will release 2.6 Ghz G5s.
Then, at WWDC, they announce (note the difference) 3.0 Ghz G5s (at a higher price point than the 2.6s...maybe as a new workstation), just like they announced 2.0 Ghz ones last year, and they don't ship them until September?
This seems more likely to me than these stupid all-or-nothing scenarios everyone is getting their panties in a bunch about...
ITR 81 said:
i can't keep quiet any longer.
people need to just chill out about this promise - i hope that blue hits their marks, but if they can't, then we as consumers have to accept that.
also whats the problem with the current apple displays? i've heard great things aobut them. its not like the current ones are no longer available. although i've got a sony LCD and love it too much to be in the market for a new monitor, so i guess my opinion doesnt count for much
Motion Recommended Minimum is Dual 2 GHz
Motion Recommended Minimum is Dual 2 GHz. For that reason, I think faster will be better than slower. But I agree the pricing will be an issue. But I want a 2nd gen 90 nm model though. I didn't wait 8 months to buy a 130 nm model now.Doctor Q said:
3GHz
It's pedantic, but let's remember that Steve Jobs said something fairly generic when he made his 3GHz claim. It was something along the lines of:
"And we'll be at 3GHz _in_a_year_"
What does that mean. He didn't say that the chip would actually show up in any machines. He said "we'll be at" (or something similarly generic). Who's "we"? Apple and IBM? If so (and I'm not claiming that this was the plan), then simply announcing that IBM had managed to produce one single chip that clocked up over 3GHz would be enough to validate SJ's claim.
I know that this is bull, and I know that's not what he _meant_ (and so do you, SJ ) but as any good salesman knows, if you make a promise, make it just vague enough to make people think they've heard something that they actually haven't.
Unless I'm totally wrong about the quote - anyone got a transcript?
An _actual_ transcript, by the way - not a kool-aid-fueled "but I heard him say it! I did!" one
It's pedantic, but let's remember that Steve Jobs said something fairly generic when he made his 3GHz claim. It was something along the lines of:
"And we'll be at 3GHz _in_a_year_"
What does that mean. He didn't say that the chip would actually show up in any machines. He said "we'll be at" (or something similarly generic). Who's "we"? Apple and IBM? If so (and I'm not claiming that this was the plan), then simply announcing that IBM had managed to produce one single chip that clocked up over 3GHz would be enough to validate SJ's claim.
I know that this is bull, and I know that's not what he _meant_ (and so do you, SJ
) but as any good salesman knows, if you make a promise, make it just vague enough to make people think they've heard something that they actually haven't.Unless I'm totally wrong about the quote - anyone got a transcript?
An _actual_ transcript, by the way - not a kool-aid-fueled "but I heard him say it! I did!" one
Nope. Tiger and iMac G5 Will Star At The WWDC.
Nope. Tomorrow is the last new PowerMac G5 announcement until January 2005 San Francisco MacWorld. There is no need for Steve to explain the delay in the dual 3 GHz G5. He will not talk about it at WWDC. That will be Tiger's moment and the new iMac G5.suzerain said:
Like other's, I would tend to belive the Think Secret article based on their past history. If that is true then:
1. At WWDC Steve will eat a little crow (again) like he did with the Xserve and say 3 gigs is close but will be delayed due to IBM problems.
2. No. 1 will be the real reason but Steve will not announce it at WWDC, just not the place. Instead it will come up in an interview after the conference.
3. Apple will continue with small, un-announced updates.
For those who are in dream land thinking we will get new updates on the 8th and then more at WWDC or even in three months, keep dreaming. It will be either updates June 8 and none at WWDC/more than 3 months or no updates June 8 with announcement at WWDC or in 3 months.
1. At WWDC Steve will eat a little crow (again) like he did with the Xserve and say 3 gigs is close but will be delayed due to IBM problems.
2. No. 1 will be the real reason but Steve will not announce it at WWDC, just not the place. Instead it will come up in an interview after the conference.
3. Apple will continue with small, un-announced updates.
For those who are in dream land thinking we will get new updates on the 8th and then more at WWDC or even in three months, keep dreaming. It will be either updates June 8 and none at WWDC/more than 3 months or no updates June 8 with announcement at WWDC or in 3 months.
having dual 2.2 ,2.4, 2.6 all announced tomorrow, and then having the uber 3ghz (maybe or maybe not a G5) with other crazy pro specs (raid, 500GB HD, 2GB ram minimum, $500 GFX card) announced at WWDC... this would all make sense in terms of having a good product line differential between the pro-line PowerMac's and the Ultra Pro like 3ghz.... it would also alienate alot of consumers.
having said that, i think that if the entire PowerMac line will be in fact all Dual CPU G5's (and i certainly hope so), a 200mhz difference between them would make sales very difficult. right now the single cpu 1.6ghz G5 distinguishes itself and fits its pricepoint of $1799, the smaller HD and ram help as well. The boost to dual 1.8ghz for $2499 makes sense when speaking in relative terms regarding the lower end 1.6ghz. and the dual 2.0ghz fits its pricepoint as 2ghz was an apple landmark at the time, thus justifying its $2999 price tag (not to mention it was first announced as being above a Single 1.8ghz, appearing much more superior).
So, for Apple to maintain its price structure without alienating consumers, and to stay competitive as well, this is what i would recommend in terms of models/prices
$1799 G5 dual 2.2 GHz / 80GB / 256MB / superdrive / GeForce FX 5200 Ultra **Announced and available at WWDC
$2499 G5 dual 2.6 GHz / 160GB / 512MB / superdrive / ATI 9600 Pro **Announced and available at WWDC
$3199 G5 dual 3.0 GHz / 160GB / 512MB / superdrive / ATI 9800 Pro * - announced at WWDC , shipping Sept '04
each of these configurations are spaced out enough equally with regard to specification / price, perhaps even more fairly than the current structure.
i would love to see the above happen, really. i doubt it will though.
but who wouldn't be happy with an announcement such as the above
having said that, i think that if the entire PowerMac line will be in fact all Dual CPU G5's (and i certainly hope so), a 200mhz difference between them would make sales very difficult. right now the single cpu 1.6ghz G5 distinguishes itself and fits its pricepoint of $1799, the smaller HD and ram help as well. The boost to dual 1.8ghz for $2499 makes sense when speaking in relative terms regarding the lower end 1.6ghz. and the dual 2.0ghz fits its pricepoint as 2ghz was an apple landmark at the time, thus justifying its $2999 price tag (not to mention it was first announced as being above a Single 1.8ghz, appearing much more superior).
So, for Apple to maintain its price structure without alienating consumers, and to stay competitive as well, this is what i would recommend in terms of models/prices
$1799 G5 dual 2.2 GHz / 80GB / 256MB / superdrive / GeForce FX 5200 Ultra **Announced and available at WWDC
$2499 G5 dual 2.6 GHz / 160GB / 512MB / superdrive / ATI 9600 Pro **Announced and available at WWDC
$3199 G5 dual 3.0 GHz / 160GB / 512MB / superdrive / ATI 9800 Pro * - announced at WWDC , shipping Sept '04
each of these configurations are spaced out enough equally with regard to specification / price, perhaps even more fairly than the current structure.
i would love to see the above happen, really. i doubt it will though.
but who wouldn't be happy with an announcement such as the above