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damn 30 inch delays

Well I cannot wait for a new monitor any longer so I have postponed my 30 inch order and I am going to get a 23inch model tonight from tottenham court rd.

I would have had to wait for the PC gfx card makers to get round to making a compatible PC card for a reasonable price anyway.

This way I can justfiy to myself that I am saving money by buying a 'cheaper' model. :)

Wish me luck in my first Apple Monitor puchase.
 
Maggot said:
Well I cannot wait for a new monitor any longer so I have postponed my 30 inch order and I am going to get a 23inch model tonight from tottenham court rd.

I would have had to wait for the PC gfx card makers to get round to making a compatible PC card for a reasonable price anyway.

This way I can justify to myself that I am saving money by buying a 'cheaper' model. :)

Wish me luck in my first Apple Monitor puchase.

So it sounds like you might still get a 30" in the future? I do hope that all goes well with your purchase. That way, you may consider more Mac purchases in the future.
 
wdlove said:
So it sounds like you might still get a 30" in the future? I do hope that all goes well with your purchase. That way, you may consider more Mac purchases in the future.

Carried the 23inch model come last night and sat it next to my CRT. The picture is incredible. My CRT looks dreadful sat next to it, both in looks and picture quality.

My gf said it was not big enough though!

Fired it up with my favourite PC games, some of which added the new resolution options without intervention, others required a little tweaking. No ghosting whatsoever. Doom3 became that little bit more scary.

The CRT will have to go, maybe one of these beauties to replace it, but not till I can justify getting a new Gfx card with 2 DVI outputs. By then the PC world might have a card to run the 30 incher maybe.....hmmmm.

No dead pixels btw.
 
Maggot said:
Carried the 23inch model come last night and sat it next to my CRT. The picture is incredible. My CRT looks dreadful sat next to it, both in looks and picture quality.

My gf said it was not big enough though!

The CRT will have to go, maybe one of these beauties to replace it, but not till I can justify getting a new Gfx card with 2 DVI outputs. By then the PC world might have a card to run the 30 incher maybe.....hmmmm.

No dead pixels btw.

What size screen would make your girlfriend happy, 30"? Happy to hear the you have had a positive experience. I thought that the Nvida 6800 also worked on the PC?
 
wdlove said:
What size screen would make your girlfriend happy, 30"? Happy to hear the you have had a positive experience. I thought that the Nvida 6800 also worked on the PC?

I bet he gets it just so that out of context his g/f can mention it by saying "my boyfriends one is massive! Much bigger than yours!"
 
Dave00 said:
Ooh, sorry to hear that man. Nobody wants to hear their GF say it's not big enough. :D

Dave

That is certainly one of those instances of taking a sentence out of context can offer a whole different meaning. Thank you for giving some comic relief to those in the wait mode.
 
I've finally received my new 23" - 2 months after purchasing my G5-2GHz. Uniform color & brightness through the surface; no bad pixels, no glitches, NOTHING! :D

This is one great screen! Here is a picture.

PS: my friend at the Apple dealership promised the new iMac will be available within 2 weeks - I'm keeping my fingers Xed! ;)
 

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aljawad said:
I've finally received my new 23" - 2 months after purchasing my G5-2GHz. Uniform color & brightness through the surface; no bad pixels, no glitches, NOTHING! :D

This is one great screen! Here is a picture.

PS: my friend at the Apple dealership promised the new iMac will be available within 2 weeks - I'm keeping my fingers Xed! ;)

Thank you for sharing. It's appreciated when someone posts a positive experience. Will give hope to others. That is a really neat looking setup. Are you also going to purchase a new iMac?
 
wdlove said:
Thank you for sharing. It's appreciated when someone posts a positive experience. Will give hope to others. That is a really neat looking setup. Are you also going to purchase a new iMac?

Thank you Wdlove, very kind of you and I’m always happy to convey my Mac-related events with fellow Mac-lovers! :)
Yes, actually, I’m planning on purchasing a new iMac for my sister. It will replace a somewhat “aging” graphite G4, and will be used mostly for Office + iLife applications. I’m leaning towards a 20” – pending its availability in our region!
:rolleyes: We usually follow the European market, but who knows? I was perhaps the first one to get an iPod mini here, when it was still reported as a rare item in the US market.
Being an optimist, I’ll take the “within-2-weeks” promise as an actual date for the availability of the new iMac. My friend at the Apple agency says that’s when a couple of the new 2.5Ghz G5 should become available for the lucky customers patiently waiting for those Big Guns! I’ll be delighted to post updates whenever new info becomes available ;)
 
aljawad said:
Thank you Wdlove, very kind of you and I’m always happy to convey my Mac-related events with fellow Mac-lovers! :)
Yes, actually, I’m planning on purchasing a new iMac for my sister. It will replace a somewhat “aging” graphite G4, and will be used mostly for Office + iLife applications. I’m leaning towards a 20” – pending its availability in our region!
:rolleyes: We usually follow the European market, but who knows? I was perhaps the first one to get an iPod mini here, when it was still reported as a rare item in the US market.
Being an optimist, I’ll take the “within-2-weeks” promise as an actual date for the availability of the new iMac. My friend at the Apple agency says that’s when a couple of the new 2.5Ghz G5 should become available for the lucky customers patiently waiting for those Big Guns! I’ll be delighted to post updates whenever new info becomes available ;)

I also have a Graphite G4 that I purchased in September of 2000. It is still running strong. Your sister is a very lucky young lady, sure that she will receive great enjoyment. A 20" should go very well with a G5. The two week wait doesn't sound bad at all.
 
(Off-topic): An ode to old computers …

Hello, Wdlove! Yes, the Graphite is a great computer and still has a huge potential, but in my case the hardware upgrade is software/application driven; this is a purchase dictated by Apples success in the home entertainment software! You see, the computer comes with a CD/DVD-ROM, and it has an external USB-based CD-RW. While it runs most iLife apps nicely, iDVD is not one of them. Toast does not match the elegance of iDVD, and creating non-DVD home movies the old fashion way (DV cam -> Mac -> iMovie -> DV cam -> VHS) is, well, old fashion! VCDs made with Toast are fun – and cheap – to make, but still nothing like the DVDs created with iLife. I considered a processor upgrade and installing an internal DVD-R, since apparently iDVD wouldn’t run on external units, but I think this is a short-term solution. So, a new computer seems to be the logical answer. I already have in mind a nice home waiting to adopt the Graphite: good computers never die, they just get handed down / donated.

I also have a Beige G3, which I still use daily for Office and other work related apps mostly. The computer is a different beast today than the day it saw life as a 266 MHz PowerMac. Now it has USB/FireWire/ATI Radeon and a G4 brain. Recently and as an experiment when the internal SCSI drive died, I removed the Gig-Ethernet card and installed a SATA card and HD. Ran beautifully to the extent I thought of removing the floppy drive, which is no longer used and install a second SATA drive turning the computer into a central file server. I just love that computer; its keyboard is simply a joy to work on for those long documents. I’ll keep on using it until it screeches to the ground, it runs Jaguar – although probably I can still hack Panther to run on it. Fancy that it started its life digitizing and editing VHS movies – under Strata Video and the classic MacOS. To me, it is a testament to how exceptional the Macintosh computing platform really is, and how resilient Macs are! :D

(Honest-to-God-true story): I work at a PC dominated environment, but being a Mac-head I insist on using the Macintosh. I used a 333 MHz iMac until last year when I convinced the department to get me a dual 1.25 GHz G4. Along the way, I also inherited an old B/W G3, which I also use. Recently our department assigned new PCs to the staff, and somehow my name was on the list of those eligible for the upgrade. I was surprised one morning when two boxes (Dell PC and LCD) were delivered to my office. I complained that I really have no use – or space - for an XP machine, but to no avail. Not knowing what to do with them, I have yet to unpack the boxes, they are sitting beneath my desk (maybe I should post pictures – its so sad).
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Somewhere, I still have the Rhapsody / Yellow Box developer CDs from the days Apple considered a dual platform strategy after the NeXT acquisition. I also own a decade old version of NeXTstep/x86. While I doubt the computer will run these, I think its tempting to try and carry out the installations – once I have enough time to spare for geeky experimentation! I think eventually I’ll get a recent version of RedHat Linux installed on the PC.
 
aljawad said:
Hello, Wdlove! Yes, the Graphite is a great computer and still has a huge potential, but in my case the hardware upgrade is software/application driven; this is a purchase dictated by Apples success in the home entertainment software! I already have in mind a nice home waiting to adopt the Graphite: good computers never die, they just get handed down / donated.

(Honest-to-God-true story): I work at a PC dominated environment, but being a Mac-head I insist on using the Macintosh. I used a 333 MHz iMac until last year when I convinced the department to get me a dual 1.25 GHz G4. Along the way, I also inherited an old B/W G3, which I also use. Recently our department assigned new PCs to the staff, and somehow my name was on the list of those eligible for the upgrade. I was surprised one morning when two boxes (Dell PC and LCD) were delivered to my office. I complained that I really have no use – or space - for an XP machine, but to no avail. Not knowing what to do with them, I have yet to unpack the boxes, they are sitting beneath my desk (maybe I should post pictures – its so sad).

I have also donated my old Mac's to a worthy cause.

Your story is a very interesting one. Have they wondered why the PC is still in its box? Yes, you should post some pictures.
 
(Off-Topic: The PC and the Mac-head!)

Hello, Wdlove! Essentially, the way things go in our place is that once new computers are distributed, the user – who is eager to start using the new PC – should contact the IT department to arrange for the computer and network to be installed and checked. Someone from financial management might drop by every year for an inventory inspection. So, for someone like me who is not planning to use the PC I fell into a niche: I’m not required to demand the computer to be installed; yet I have it in my possession if asked about it. :p

Here is a picture of my crammed office. Notice from the right: the B/W G3 (which I use for MacOS 9 apps, namely MiniCAD), the 2xG4 (my main OSX computer), and to the left under the desk you’ll find the “corner of oblivion” ;) where you see the brand new PC & display sitting next to the waste bin and a BeBox.

(PS: We are steering away from the original topic of this thread (20&23” displays), and for that I do apologize. I’d have preferred to take this discussion to another thread, but I guess because I’m a newbie I can’t start new threads)
 

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Thank you for sharing aljawad. The pictures are nice. I had forgotten how nice the Blue & White G3 looks, make a great appearance. Guess that is because blue is my favorite color.

Anyone have any updates on how the new aluminum displays are performing?
 
Question on 23" New Display

I recently Got the new 23" Apple Cinema Display to use with my Dual 2.5. How come you can no longer start up the Machine from the Monitor? I can only Shut it Down or Restart or change Brightness but no Cold Start up anymore from Monitor. My old 22" Acrylic Monitor used to Start my Machine and I got used to that. Why the change now?
 
BaCeK said:
Please look how many can Apple 23 " show strips in dark area in a picture http://bacek.ru/tests/test-dr.jpg

I have a 23" Alu display. It suffered from a mild pink tint when I received it. I used the advanced mode of the colour calibration tool, and it looks fine to me now.

If my eyes are not being dazzled by bright areas around the rest of the screen, I can see 555 and 444 patches, but cannot see the edge of the 333 section or those darker than it.

I can distinguish the 250, 251 and - only just - the 252 white blocks.

Hope that helps in some way.
 
erroneous said:
I have a 23" Alu display. It suffered from a mild pink tint when I received it. I used the advanced mode of the colour calibration tool, and it looks fine to me now.

Please, in what consists advanced mode, these are additional adjustments in the menu of the monitor or something else?

erroneous said:
If my eyes are not being dazzled by bright areas around the rest of the screen, I can see 555 and 444 patches, but cannot see the edge of the 333 section or those darker than it.

If to cover with a hand light area that to look better...


Thank
 
I can just barely see the 444 and 555 strips. I can see the 250 and 251 strips pretty clearly and just barely see the 252 strip. Basically the same as erroneous reported above.
 
BaCeK said:
I the photographer and for me very important am a dynamic range of the monitor namely as he displays shades in shadows

Please look how many can Apple 23 " show strips in dark area in a picture
http://bacek.ru/tests/test-dr.jpg

In the picture that you posted is that part of the advanced mode calibration? Is this a process that needs advanced knowledge to use?
 
wdlove said:
In the picture that you posted is that part of the advanced mode calibration? Is this a process that needs advanced knowledge to use?

This picture serves for definition of ability to show a semitone in deep shadows, that it is necessary at professional work with photos.
Naturally on it is possible to make and calibration of the monitor, but only for shadows and light areas... For calibration of color transfer there are other methods.
 
BaCeK said:
Please, in what consists advanced mode, these are additional adjustments in the menu of the monitor or something else?

System Preferences -> Displays -> Color -> Calibrate... -> Expert Mode

BaCeK said:
If to cover with a hand light area that to look better...

That's what I did. :)
 
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