Nor do I wish to pull Orton if he doesn't loose. Even if he does loose I'm not opposed to leaving him in, as long as he can get the offense produce.Kwyjibo said:First off, if Orton gets pulled for Grossman before he loses a game, he's going to get a bad attitude. It will hurt his mental game, period. Its fine to be a critic of Orton, but with Ron Turner calling the plays I don't quite think the offense will ever click like you guys might expect. I've seen ron turner coaching and ron turner offenses for first hand, and it was god awful.
As for Ron Turner, I'm still not entirely sure about him either, though he is better then either Shoop or Shea. I understand your point about Turner at U of I but he never had much talent there anyways. What about when he was with the Bears before. I believe it was in 95 when Salam rushed for over 1000 yards while both Conway and Graham both had over 1000 receiving. In order to get numbers like that he has to know a thing or two about calling a game. I don't think we will see numbers like that at all with him this time around because of how dominant the defense is and Lovie's desire to run the ball.