rg my brothers a football addict when the game is on I can't watch the history channel
so I hate football
rg my brothers a football addict when the game is on I can't watch the history channel![]()
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so I hate football
However, it's all for naught, no one is going to stop San Diego.
if I could just weigh in on Vick...
back when he was at VT, WVU coach Don Nehlen said (quite rightly I thought) that the reason VT was so good was because of Vick; you take him away and they're "nothing special."
ditto with the Falcons...without Vick they are unimpressive.
however...
I'm beginning to think that Vick is as good as he's ever going to get. I don't think he'll ever be the kind of guy who can reliably throw the ball 24-30 times a game, which is what the west coast offense is supposed to do.
And yes, I know, his receivers suck.
But when you pressure him or you force him to go to his 2nd or 3rd receiver, he usually doesn't come up with the play. I think what you saw at VT is what Vick can do: he can hit his primary target, and if that's not open he can scramble. He never has been a really great passer, and IMHO it's unlikely he ever will be.
I agree with an earlier post about playing him at receiver. With his skills it's almost foolish not to.
I keep asking myself this question:
if I were building a team (not a fantasy team, a real team), who would I pick at QB? I can think of probably 10 guys I'd take before I even looked at Vick...
Beatsme, I can summarize your comments about Vick (spit) in about two sentences:
He was a GREAT college QB. He's a crap NFL QB.
In college ball, quarterbacks often are expected to run the ball. That's the nature of college ball. But in the pros, quarterbacks are expected to THROW the ball or hand it off to a dedicated running back. Running with the ball is a last resort, but Vick (spit) would probably run the ball on every play if he thought he could get away with it.
It's telling when a good QB like Donovan McNabb, who came into the league as a Vick (spit)-style QB but matured into a pocket passer, criticizes the guy. A QB who runs in the NFL is not doing his job... even if they do win partially as a result of his running, the fact is that one of these days, he's gonna get tackled hard on one of his runs and that'll be the end of his career (and a HUGE salary cap hit for Atlanta).
I cannot disagree with that.. but will add a little. College ball isn't noted for it's defense either. I think a lot of the things that made Vick a superstar in college don't translate to the NFL. Yes, he can run like a madman, which helps keep Ds honest, but he really cannot be the 1 Man Show that he might have been at VT. He was incredible to watch at VT.
If the Panthers had been as amazing as everyone predicted, and the Saints as terrible, I'd have no problem rooting for Carolina.
On Vick, he's terribly exciting to watch. He's a tremendous athlete who happens to play quarterback. I'd like to see how he would play under a different coach. But with Atlanta's owner seemingly willing to pay whatever price necessary to keep Vick around, seems he'll always be there.
However, it's all for naught, no one is going to stop San Diego.
Twoodcc you've got to learn how to use the multiquote feature ... it should help you out a whole bunch.
Devin Hester has returned three touchdowns on punts / kickoffs on monday night football so he's averaging 1.5 per monday night game. he's really becoming an impact guy ... if only he could play offense or defense a little better, hopefully next year.
The Bears clinched a first round bye tonight.
The Bears looked solid again, Grossman was a bit mroe patient. He didn't make many great plays but he also didn't throw any picks. His QB rating grew exponentially and he saved his job for a few games.
The Bears are looking like the best team in the NFC this week, with the Saints either tied for best or close behind.
Devin Hester is amazing, and adds a much needed return game that the Bears lacked last year.
yeah i guess i do need to try it out.....![]()
yeah, the bears got by again. i didnt watch much of the game (it grosses me out.....sorry, i had too)
i don't think special teams will win in the playoffs, but i guess it could
Special Teams alone won't win you a championship.
But special teams are a third of the game... and if you've got two otherwise well-matched teams, the one with the better special teams which can get better field position (even if there's no return for a TD) has an edge.
Incidentally, congrats to those in the MR Fantasy League who got into the playoffs...
and yes, 6 wins in a row means I'm one of themalthough don't expect to get any further playing Warbrain!
...although don't expect to get any further playing Warbrain!
from ProFootballWeekly.com
The Colts were not far out of the game when Peyton Manning’s body language already began to sour. At times early on, he sat on the bench by himself, with his head dropped in his hands. After consistently being held to three-and-outs and forcing the ball into double coverage, he walked off the field with his head hanging and shaking it in disgust. NFL evaluators who have been watching Manning for years are convinced he will never win a Super Bowl and point to his body language as the reason why. It may be an unfair criticism, but if leadership is revealed in times of adversity, some would argue Manning is not much of a leader.
This weeks game against the Bengals should be a good indication of how we'll fare in the post season.
One of the things ProFootballWeekly mentioned is that the Colts D is made up of smallish players, and one of the theories in the NFL is that smaller players wear down in the latter half of the season. I gotta believe there's at least some truth to it. I'm 5'10", 170lbs...most of the Colts secondary isn't much bigger than me, and there's no way I could take that kind of pounding.
I've heard this said a number of times before. When everyone was applauding the Colts D at the start of last season (didn't last long) they said they're small and fast. A couple of the LB's are only 220 and the 2 prominent Safety's, Doss and Sanders are barely 200.
I don't think this is the reason though. You talked about Peyton's leadership qualities earlier but there's really no leader on the D side of the ball at all. You need someone to take ownership and stand tall. At the moment its the blind leading the blind.
Special Teams alone won't win you a championship, but with a top shelf defense and an average offense who keeps it more conservative, you should be able to contend in the playoffs.
i mean, Arizona had them beat.
they should 'contend' in the playoffs, but i don't know if they'll be in the superbowl or not. but i think even if they are, i don't think they'll win.
i mean, Arizona had them beat.
so? pretty much all the top teams have had their bad games.
indy has lost to two decent teams in dallas and j-ville, but got obliterated by the latter. meanwhile, they also lost to a medicore titans team
san diego had trouble with the bills and struggled more than they probably should have against oakland and cleveland, although their two losses (to the chiefs and the ravens) were close and against good teams
baltimore has lost to 3 middle of the road teams in denver, carolina, and cincy. they barely beat cleveland and tennessee.
and really i'm not even sure who else is good enough to consider.
point is just that you can't go by one game or even two. especially when they're wins... plus, with the exception of indy, the other top teams (add new orleans possibly) have hit their stride recently, so the games earlier in the season are less important, especially if they were wins in the end.