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2010/11 NHL Season, Stanley Cup Playoffs & off-season Thread
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First of all, let me congratulate the Boston Bruins and their fans. Boston looked like a team better suited for playoff hockey. They exposed the Canucks' weaknesses better than any other team in the playoffs. Tim Thomas was outstanding and as a fan of his I'm happy to see him lift the Cup. Congrats to Lucic too. Must be special for him to lift the Cup in his hometown. Congratulations to the deserving winners.
I watched the game tonight in downtown Vancouver on Georgia street. It turned into the center of the chaos after the game. I witnessed as people destroyed the large screens that were several meters in dimension, lit cars on fire, broke down a major bank, coffee shops, and other retail stores. The riot police did an admirable job pushing back the hooligans who fought the police as if the Canucks loss was their responsibility. Then came the mounties (police on horses) which people didn't mess with.
There were people who were teargassed and pouring water in their eyes right in front of us. My friend Sarah and I just about got run over by the stampede of people being pushed back by the riot police. I was pretty alert. I didn't want her to get hurt.
There was a Boston Bruins fan in a Bruins jersey walking on Granville street surrounded by a**holes. Some people made violent advances towards him. But I was encouraged to see some fans with common sense and respect intervene each time and stop him from getting hurt.
Words can't sufficiently describe how appalled and disgusted I am. Got home about half an hour ago. Too many drunk idiots high on adrenaline committing crimes as if they were justified. There were lots of fans who took defeat and went home gracefully. But there weren't enough people trying to disperse, go home, and let the chaos die down. Rather, they remained spectators and participants. As these hooligans spread out, things are becoming more difficult to contain.
I am actually in tears right now for this beautiful city and some respectful fans who clearly won't be seen that way. To me this is absolute horror and not a good representation of this city and the people as a whole. But it's hard to believe that seeing what we're seeing.
In other parts of the world, they fight and die for freedom, equality, rights. Here we make this mess all because of a game..
First of all, let me congratulate the Boston Bruins and their fans. Boston looked like a team better suited for playoff hockey. They exposed the Canucks' weaknesses better than any other team in the playoffs. Tim Thomas was outstanding and as a fan of his I'm happy to see him lift the Cup. Congrats to Lucic too. Must be special for him to lift the Cup in his hometown. Congratulations to the deserving winners.
I watched the game tonight in downtown Vancouver on Georgia street. It turned into the center of the chaos after the game. I witnessed as people destroyed the large screens that were several meters in dimension, lit cars on fire, broke down a major bank, coffee shops, and other retail stores. The riot police did an admirable job pushing back the hooligans who fought the police as if the Canucks loss was their responsibility. Then came the mounties (police on horses) which people didn't mess with.
There were people who were teargassed and pouring water in their eyes right in front of us. My friend Sarah and I just about got run over by the stampede of people being pushed back by the riot police. I was pretty alert. I didn't want her to get hurt.
There was a Boston Bruins fan in a Bruins jersey walking on Granville street surrounded by a**holes. Some people made violent advances towards him. But I was encouraged to see some fans with common sense and respect intervene each time and stop him from getting hurt.
Words can't sufficiently describe how appalled and disgusted I am. Got home about half an hour ago. Too many drunk idiots high on adrenaline committing crimes as if they were justified. There were lots of fans who took defeat and went home gracefully. But there weren't enough people trying to disperse, go home, and let the chaos die down. Rather, they remained spectators and participants. As these hooligans spread out, things are becoming more difficult to contain.
I am actually in tears right now for this beautiful city and some respectful fans who clearly won't be seen that way. To me this is absolute horror and not a good representation of this city and the people as a whole. But it's hard to believe that seeing what we're seeing.
In other parts of the world, they fight and die for freedom, equality, rights. Here we make this mess all because of a game..
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I joked to a co-worker today if the Bruins win, they have to get the heck out of there because the city will burn
I in no way ever thought that it would actually happen and am glad you and your friend got out ok.
runlsd - well written post. I had no idea until I made it back home what was going on. It really is a sad situation. Thank you for the congratulations for the B's and fans.
I was out in Boston last night as well and the mob got a little unruly but, like zioxide said, it wasn't bad. I hesitate to spend any time thinking about what it would have been like had they lost.
We were trying to make it from a pub on State St. back to the Garden to head north to Charlestown where I like to park. I took a couple of minutes of video of the mob that we ended up in. In the distance you can see the Garden but it turns out because of the blockade we couldn't actually get there. It's clear on the video but I'm only 5'11" so I couldn't see what my camera was seeing. We went left of the bus you see because it looked a lot safer than the mob to the right of it. At one point you can see that I completely stop moving -- this is entirely because we are being pushed and shoved by the crowd. Not in a bad way but it was becoming quite clear that if it did get out of hand it was not going to end up well (the "flip the bus" chant at 1min in was small clue).
At the end of the video we are getting turned around by the police and basically went to survival mode to get out of the mess and then watched from the edge. You can hear me say "what? they're not letting us out!?" -- that was when the status quo changed for me and it was time to move.
I know most of you don't care about this video and it's not that good. But, it does show a little of what it was like to be in/near the mob. It looks small from where we were but trust me that it wasn't.
Go Bruins!
PS. This has been a very fun thread and I hope it keeps up for a while. I have met new friends in here and learned a lot from people that understand hockey at a deeper level than I do. I really do appreciate the back and forth and had a great time. Thanks to Surely for starting it.
Congrats to Boston and especially Tim Thomas- one hell of a goalie.
Honestly- I didn't want to see either of these teams win, but so it goes. Have a good year with the cup, Boston. I know we did.
Honestly- I didn't want to see either of these teams win, but so it goes. Have a good year with the cup, Boston. I know we did.
I was in the same area. We watched the game at Fanuiel Hall then after the celebration moved in to the streets, we headed North to the Garden. We made it just about to where you are in that video.. they had the blockade set up at the beginning of Causeway St. There were people in EVERY direction.. BLACK AND GOLD EVERYWHERE. People chanting near causeway, huge groups of people at Haymarket.. it was one of the most ridiculous nights of my life. Loved every minute of it.
He was definitely fantastic. And, I think everyone would agree, a class act off the ice as well.
Makes me not feel quite as old.
He was definitely fantastic. And, I think everyone would agree, a class act off the ice as well.
Makes me not feel quite as old.
Yes, for sure. If there is anyone who deserves it most, it's him.
Patrice Bergeron too, and especially Mark Recchi. what a way to end a hall of fame career.
Oh, and some guy named Cam...
runlsd - glad you didn't get hurt or caught up in the riot. It's an embarrassment for your city. Hopefully the police will learn from this in order to better strategize if there's ever a next time (they obviously didn't learn anything from the riots in '94). I don't think you can blame the typical Canucks fan for the riots- this is clearly the work of a bunch of ***** hooligans that really don't represent Vancouver.
Thanks for the video. It reminds me of my experiences in 1992 and 1993 when the Blue Jays won the World Series back to back (I was at the game when we won the Series, and walked/paraded with the crowd up Yonge street for miles). People poured into the streets, cheered, hugged and high fived each other......celebrated in a way that the city could be proud of. Good for Boston.
I spoke with my mother this morning who lives in Toronto. She lives in a condo in a busy part of the city, right on Yonge street. She said that after the game, people were out honking their horns for a couple of hours. People were going nuts (in a good way) at some of the bars down on Yonge, and cheering for the B's. She said it almost felt as if Toronto won the Cup.
I guess Toronto is Hockeytown after all.......
Thanks Mooney. It's been a great thread......lots of fun in here, a good group of regulars. Thanks to everyone who participated (even to the bandwagon jumpers
). I'll keep the thread open and let it fizzle out naturally. I'm sure we'll have lots to talk about around July 1. If I'm around at the start of next season, I'll start the next thread. Otherwise, I'm sure someone will start it! Go Leafs!
I was out and about last night in Boston - and it was just respectful celebration. People were rowdy, but not destructive. Everyone decked out in black and yellow, such fun. Can't wait to hit the parade Saturday!
The stories coming out of Vancouver are horrifying. It's unfortunate on so many levels - because of the property damage, injuries, the reflection on Vancouver fans, and because everyone is talking about this instead of the Bruins' inspiring run to the Cup. Vancouver had a great season, and they'll be in the hunt again. It's a shame that a handful of dumb@sses felt the need to burn and loot. I hope as many as them get prosecuted as possible.
I have now witnessed championships in all the four major sports in my lifetime. 2 World Series titles, 3 Super Bowls, 1 NBA title, and now a Stanley Cup victory for the Bruins after a 39 year drought. Boston truly is the greatest sports city in the world, and we're completely spoiled. I love my city.
Winning never gets old.
The stories coming out of Vancouver are horrifying. It's unfortunate on so many levels - because of the property damage, injuries, the reflection on Vancouver fans, and because everyone is talking about this instead of the Bruins' inspiring run to the Cup. Vancouver had a great season, and they'll be in the hunt again. It's a shame that a handful of dumb@sses felt the need to burn and loot. I hope as many as them get prosecuted as possible.
I have now witnessed championships in all the four major sports in my lifetime. 2 World Series titles, 3 Super Bowls, 1 NBA title, and now a Stanley Cup victory for the Bruins after a 39 year drought. Boston truly is the greatest sports city in the world, and we're completely spoiled. I love my city.
Winning never gets old.
Me too -- see you there. This is last on my agenda (I think) for the season. Now I'm just looking forward to the team meet and greet come training season.
Is the game over can I look yet?
In all seriousness it was sad to see the outside happenings. I truly believe the majority if the hooligans were there and couldn't have cared less who won the game.
It was nice to see the majority of the fans still there for the cup raising.
What a series though:
4 shut outs, 4 that's crazy
Tim Thomas, what can be said.
Luongo two shutouts.
Game 7 to decide the Stanley Cup winners, hockey fans couldn't have asked for a better way to close out he season.
The series was based on wins; not goals.
It was a hard fought emotional series for both fan bases.
I have to say I developed a severe hatred for some of the Canucks players.
I hope the bruins sign my Marchand, I am pretty sure he doesn't have to worry about putting the P jersey on anymore.
Recchi: Mr Recchi, in my opinion, is the unsung hero of the team. The Bruins signed him for one reason, to mentor the young team and win the cup. I believe he is the lowest paid bruin but his role is undeniable.
What a way to go out.
In all seriousness it was sad to see the outside happenings. I truly believe the majority if the hooligans were there and couldn't have cared less who won the game.
It was nice to see the majority of the fans still there for the cup raising.
What a series though:
4 shut outs, 4 that's crazy
Tim Thomas, what can be said.
Luongo two shutouts.
Game 7 to decide the Stanley Cup winners, hockey fans couldn't have asked for a better way to close out he season.
The series was based on wins; not goals.
It was a hard fought emotional series for both fan bases.
I have to say I developed a severe hatred for some of the Canucks players.
I hope the bruins sign my Marchand, I am pretty sure he doesn't have to worry about putting the P jersey on anymore.
Recchi: Mr Recchi, in my opinion, is the unsung hero of the team. The Bruins signed him for one reason, to mentor the young team and win the cup. I believe he is the lowest paid bruin but his role is undeniable.
What a way to go out.
I couldn't agree more. I am glad it went the full seven games!!!!!!! Congrats to the bruins! Well played!
Just watched some of the riot videos on YouTube- absolutely horrifying. What is wrong with people? Do people really have nothing else to live for but a game?
not the people. stupid media reporting. you got riot police gearing up which makes makes people do crazy things. vancouver and idiot mayor robertson need to take cue from how british police deal with large crowds. ie. don't carry riot gear if you don't want to spark a riot
Well, it took an entire season, but we finally have it: the dumbest post of the thread.
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So sad. On a smaller scale, this happened a few times in Chicago when the Bulls won the Championship. I don't get it.
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Yeah, but that's an American city.
Seriously though, I don't get it either. I'm sure that there's a handful of people that go there specifically to cause trouble, but I guess the herd mentality sets into the crowd, which causes other to join in. For example, I doubt that all of the people that looted stores last night went there with that in mind. They just saw others doing it, and joined in figuring they'd better get some while the getting's good. Idiots.
Boston's approach was different
- The Garden was closed as were the streets around the Garden
- Bars had to manage their lines. Police were making lines disperse if they got too long and couldn't get people in
- Once you left the bar after the second period, no getting back in
- Bars had to bring in all of their outside furniture (from what I understand). Eliminates one class of weapons
- Bars had to black out their windows so that there was no loitering on the sidewalks
- The sidewalks were basically closed
- Cars were towed to get them off the streets with the parking ban
Only 7 arrests from what I hear. I'm not saying I approve or disapprove but for whatever reason the strategy it worked. The city learned from the past and took actions to manage it -- Hope is not a strategy.
Re: Riot gear -- The police have to protect themselves. And, knowing what we do about history, people tend to riot after big games. It's dumb, we don't get it, but it happens.
Hmm.. I didn't think your post was THAT bad...
EDIT: Mob mentality is pretty well understood. One place for info - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_behavior
Exactly. You can't blame the police for wanting to protect themselves.
The riots would have been worse without the police presence.
Hmm.. I didn't think your post was THAT bad...
Suck it, Mooney!
Wow, look at all the riot police wearing their riot gear causing this incident
:http://www.thestar.com/videozone/1009999--man-beaten-by-vancouver-mob
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**** yeah. perfect way to end a hall of fame career.
BPD did a damn good job. I didn't see any problems at all.. just a sea of happy people wearing their black and gold. Most of the police were just as happy as we were, and some were even taking pictures with fans and stuff.
The only "issue" I witnessed was people standing on top of the subway entrances, but when the police came and told them to get down, they did without any problems. Only 7 arrests.. there is that many arrests on a normal night in a big city. Far cry from 150+ injuries in Vancouver.
Exactly. You can't blame the police for wanting to protect themselves.
The riots would have been worse without the police presence.
Suck it, Mooney!
Wow, look at all the riot police wearing their riot gear causing this incident
http://www.thestar.com/videozone/1009999--man-beaten-by-vancouver-mob
What a video -- holy crap... <suppressing comments>
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