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2010-2011 College Football Thread
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Ever heard of the wishbone? The triple option? The zone read? Running QBs have been around forever and will continue to be. They are probably less likely to get hurt while running than they are in the pocket because they are usually going to see who is coming at them.
Yep. An undefeated Big 12, Big 10, Pac 10 or SEC team will almost always be ranked higher than a MWC or WAC team because the game-in, game-out schedules are typically more difficult.
OSU is not that good and will not finish anywhere close to undefeated. They will probably get blown out at least twice. MU is intriguing but probably not as good as their record. OU looks like the class of the Big 12 right now and will likely get stronger as the season goes along. And with Nebraska losing, it's no longer a lock that they'll win the North, so OU might even get to avoid playing them at all this year.
Yeah, because of the way he left, I doubt another major program will take a chance on him. It's the same with Jim Levitt at South Florida and Mark Mangino.
Great weekend. We won at Florida for the first time since 1965 and we are ranked for the first time in 9 years. Yeah, it was ugly but a win is a win. We have already won as many games as we did all of last year. All I have to say is that Dan Mullen and Manny Diaz (our DC) better get a nice, fat raise.
Aurbun: I agree they are a one man show. We managed to shut him down in the second half, and had we not shot ourselves in the foot, would have beaten them. He's a big, tough, guy buy even tough guys get hurt. All I have to say is that the LSU-Auburn and the Iron Bowl should be interesting.
Couldn't be farther from the truth bro. I may be a TCU fan at heart but I'm a realist too; growing up with a brown paper bag over my head as a Saints fan in New Orleans [hometown] has given me the unique ability to be objective when it comes to football.
Oklahoma is a great team but they have some pretty glaring disparity on both sides of the ball. Take Demarco Murray out of their offense and they are suddenly one dimensional as a "Spread" team with mediocre defense at best. If you lived here in North Texas and had the benefit of seeing almost EVERY game of theirs you'd know they aren't nearly as complete a team as people make them out to be. Their games versus Air Force, Utah State, and Cincinnati almost proved that point but they found a way to get it done which I do respect. Wait a few weeks and you'll know exactly where I'm coming from when OU takes a tumble like all the other overrated 'powerhouses' tend to do this time of year.
That's not the lawsuit I was talking about. I'm pretty sure he sued Tech three or four times while he was coaching in Lubbock.
I only know about the current one which anyone who followed the story will more than likely think that Leach is right to sue the school.
I knew that he refused to sign a new contract due to terms in it. Did not know about the other law suits. I do know that he got some rather nasty fines from the Big 12 for some of his comments about the refs and then ripping into them during the 3 way tie.
I kind of agree with Leach idea on how a 3 way tie should be decided. Base it on graduation rate of the team. Now that would screw over UT and OU but they have been at the bottom of big 12 graduation rate for over a decade running with no real signs of improving.
I looked into how those rules are done. They have 6 years to get their degree. If they leave the school with out completing (go pro transfer ect) and they could of finished in the time left they are subtracted and not counted for or against the school.
Now that below 50% number from OU and UT is really bad.
What are these crazy notions you speak of??
Yeah, I know they've been around forever, but to me it seems like so many of these QB's are turning in to running backs.
I dunno, maybe it's just my perception. And maybe I'm not impressed because for the last few years our awesome D has been able to shut down dual-threat QB's.
Call me a traditionalist, but although the Robinson's and Newton's are fun to watch, give me a smart pocket QB with a corps of good receivers any day.
Body of Work
The BCS Top 5 Body of Work
1.) Oklahoma
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Opponents are 23-16, includes BCS#17,19, 0 FCS schools
2 Ws away from home, best being BCS#19 Texas (neutral)
2.) Oregon
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Opponents are 13-24, includes BCS#12, 1 FCS school
3 Ws away from home, best was 3-3 Arizona State
3.) Boise St.
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Opponents are 16-24, includes BCS#25, 0 FCS schools
4 Ws away from home, best was BCS#25 VaTech (neutral)
4.) Auburn
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Opponents are 25-20, includes BCS#21,23,24, 0 FCS schools
2 Ws away from home, best was BCS#24 Miss St.
5.) TCU
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Opponents are 21-27, includes no BCS top 25, 1 FCS school
3 Ws away from home, best was 3-3 Oregon St (neutral)
The BCS Top 5 Body of Work
1.) Oklahoma
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Opponents are 23-16, includes BCS#17,19, 0 FCS schools
2 Ws away from home, best being BCS#19 Texas (neutral)
2.) Oregon
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Opponents are 13-24, includes BCS#12, 1 FCS school
3 Ws away from home, best was 3-3 Arizona State
3.) Boise St.
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Opponents are 16-24, includes BCS#25, 0 FCS schools
4 Ws away from home, best was BCS#25 VaTech (neutral)
4.) Auburn
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Opponents are 25-20, includes BCS#21,23,24, 0 FCS schools
2 Ws away from home, best was BCS#24 Miss St.
5.) TCU
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Opponents are 21-27, includes no BCS top 25, 1 FCS school
3 Ws away from home, best was 3-3 Oregon St (neutral)
I'll chip away at this ball.
It's called keeping the defence honest.
If a smart QB sees something in the defense, he can call an audible over the ball to take advantage of it. If the coach has it in their playbook.
One game does not a season make.
Just for fun though, BSU beat VaTech by 3 at a neutral site, while JMU beat them by 5 in Blacksburg. Kind of bursts BSU's "stellar" win claim.
Very true, but if you lose to a team that isn't even allowed to play in the BCS, why should you ever be ranked by that system? Losing to a I-AA team is the worst thing you can possibly do as a football team (on the field). Teams like Va Tech, Ole Miss and Kansas should have had their seasons cancelled after those losses.
Most of us probably weren't - but then, we probably expected Ohio State and Nebraska to win last weekend, too.
You disappoint me, brother - I expected much better from you than a simple "ou sucks." You sound like a bunch of my Facebook friends when you do that - lose to a team, then claim that they, but not you, suck.
You're one of the best smack-talking Longhorns I know - you can do better than that.
Well, I must confess there's tome truth in that. For that matter, if you take away any team's running game, that would necessarily reduce their offense to something called "one-dimensional," wouldn't it?
It's kinda like saying, "If you score fewer points than your opponent, you're gonna lose." It doesn't take any real insight to make such a claim.
You should probably lurk more.
EDIT: Let's go along with your hypothesis - here's what OU did last weekend without Demarco Murray:
Rushing: 213 yards, 2 TD
Passing: 319 yards, 2 TD
Defense: 183 total yards allowed, 0 points
And that is a one-dimensional team with a mediocre defense?
How many teams would love to be that one-dimensional with that mediocre of a defense?You disappoint me, brother - I expected much better from you than a simple "ou sucks." You sound like a bunch of my Facebook friends when you do that - lose to a team, then claim that they, but not you, suck.
'ou sucks' is a truism that transcends football, college athletics, and even life itself. It is applicable regardless of score or ranking. It can be said when OU wins. It can be said when OU loses. It can be said on a Tuesday afternoon in June. It just is, and always will be.
Is South Carolina ahead of Alabama?
Is Wisconsin ahead of Ohio State?
Is Arizona ahead of Iowa?
Is Texas ahead of Nebraska?
Is Oregon State ahead of Arizona?
Is UCLA ahead of Texas?
Is Kentucky ahead of South Carolina?
The entire system is a joke.
That's a little different. Virginia Tech and James Madison don't play on the same level. It's like if an Arena Football team beat the Dallas Cowboys. No matter the excuses, it's completely unacceptable.
Agreed.
The only solution to the above situation is to get rid of rankings altogether. While I agree that the system sucks, I don't necessarily disagree with the rankings themselves. You can't rank 100+ teams - most of whom don't play each other - and avoid having schools ranked higher than schools that beat them on the field.
'ou sucks' is a truism that transcends football, college athletics, and even life itself. It is applicable regardless of score or ranking. It can be said when OU wins. It can be said when OU loses. It can be said on a Tuesday afternoon in June. It just is, and always will be.
Kind of like the eternal truth that Longhorns are limp-wristed, tea sipping sissies.
I was watching your game earlier in the week, and as always I'm astounded by the number of hot women that attend A&M. Then I see all those goose stepping, wannabe military skinheads everywhere, and realize that these poor, hot women are trapped at a school were all the guys would rather be in their dorm room rubbing one out to Top Gun.
Sigh...those women need rescuing!
When I went to A&M the first time back in '93 the talent was pretty sad, but over the past ten years or so it has really exploded. As for the Corps of Cadets, A&M commissioners more officers into the military than any other school outside of the military academies. So only some of them are wannabes.
Pretty typical response from a limp-wristed greyhound drinker, though.
Well, I must confess there's tome truth in that. For that matter, if you take away any team's running game, that would necessarily reduce their offense to something called "one-dimensional," wouldn't it?
It's kinda like saying, "If you score fewer points than your opponent, you're gonna lose." It doesn't take any real insight to make such a claim.
You should probably lurk more.
EDIT: Let's go along with your hypothesis - here's what OU did last weekend without Demarco Murray:
Rushing: 213 yards, 2 TD
Passing: 319 yards, 2 TD
Defense: 183 total yards allowed, 0 points
And that is a one-dimensional team with a mediocre defense?
Some valid points but you neglected to mention that I gave OU their props when it comes to the level of talent on the roster. You also glossed over the fact that they narrowly avoided losses to Air Force, Utah State, and Cincy. Beating Iowa State 52-0 is what they’re supposed to do; no arguments there but they should’ve done the same to the aforementioned three schools. Guess it’s just the parity in today’s game. Let me ask you this, is OU really the best school in the country right now? Will they really hold on to that #1 ranking until the title game? Law of averages dictates that they will falter….but again it’s just an opinion. I personally prefer a slice of chaos with my BCS pie but would enjoy an OU vs. Oregon or OU vs. Auburn match up if it came down to that.
The thing that irks me is how voters, ESPN analysts, and fan boys talk up teams from automatic qualifiers and never throw respect to teams like TCU, Boise, Utah, etc. who may not have the same amount of talent but play sound enough football to compete with some of the best of the best. The old argument of, “they don’t play anyone…” doesn’t really apply because these schools beg and plead to get ‘BIG’ schools to come play a home-and-home football series which no one agrees to because they fear the black mark of a loss to a non-BCS qualifier. Granted the competition in the WAC, MWC, Sunbelt, etc doesn’t stack up to the power conferences but allowing a team with a loss or two to hurdle an undefeated Boise or TCU down the stretch doesn’t make sense.
I’ll hold my breath for that mythical playoff system that seems to only be applicable for hoops and division II teams.
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Caution ahead...fear the Thursday night game Oregon fans.