Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Kyle Field was rocking last night. Maybe the loudest I've ever heard it in about 30 years of going to games.

mediaManager

I've always kind of liked Texas A&M. I feel like Mississippi State is a our version of A&M. We have the same colors, and we are a land grant institution. We even used to be Mississippi A&M. And, of course, we got Jackie Sherrill after he left TAMU. I love the traditions there, especially the 12th man. Check out this book on the 12th Man tradition.

Here is a quote from the book (sorry for the insanely long quote, but it is worth it):

With few exceptions, none of them had any right to even hope of wearing a Texas A&M football uniform. Division One football, in all of its collective wit and wisdom, glanced haphazardly at each of these players and, with prejudiced eyes, quickly made up its mind.

They were a little too slow.
They were a little too short.
They didn't weigh quite enough.
They weighed a little too much.
And they jumped like they had lead weights or far too many hamburgers in their shoes.

They were out of shape, generally hadn't lifted serious weights for a long time, were better at chasing girls than running backs, never expected to come any closer to an on-field collision than their seats in the third deck of the twenty yard line, and, most often, suffered bodily injury only when they slipped off the barstool or found themselves face to face with a wayward fist at the Dixie Chicken.

They simply didn't have the speed, quickness, agility, strength, or muscle to play big-time college football.

That's what Division One Football thought.

But Division One Football didn't see what I saw, know what I knew about Texas A&M, its traditions, its legacy, and the never-say-die, never-say-quit, never-back-down spirit that dwelled deep within the hearts of a student body that would run through a brick wall or tear the sonuvabitch down with their bare hands if the maroon and white asked them to.

They were the builders of bonfire.

They were the keepers of the flame.

Individually and collectively, they were the heartbeat of everything so special about Texas A&M.

Like E. King Gill, the original 12th Man, they were ready to come down out of the stands if the football team needed them.

Unlike E. King Gill, they did take the field, time and again, year after year, a handful of them becoming my notorious 12th Man Kickoff Team, a motley collection of nondescript walk-ons with more courage than sense, a wild bunch with eyes peeled back and ears laid flat, charging hell-bent-for-leather toward the promised land like a runaway freight train with its boiler exploding, ready to hit or be hit, break a wedge or break a neck, with one undeniable thought in mind, and that was find the man with the football and tear his helmet off, preferably with his head still inside it.

Nobody, from one end of the country to the other, believed they could take the place of scholarship athletes and successfully accomplish what they had been assigned to do.

Most high-dollar, big-time, buttoned-up college football coaches thought I was as crazy, maybe even crazier, than those madcap renegades and mavericks who formed the 12th Man Kickoff Team.

Jackie's lost it, I heard them say.
He's mad.
He's naive.
He's a little touched in the head.
Don't worry. It's just a publicity stunt.
He'll never pull it off.
It'll never happen.

But they didn't see what I saw or know what I knew about a special time and a special place at Texas A&M.

They had never looked into the eyes of that kickoff team and stared into the depth of a raging wildfire burning deep in their souls.

They were walk-ons, all right.
Well, maybe they weren't.
They were run-ons.

They were running hard wherever they went, on the field, off the field, in practice, in games, in unison, even when they knew that some six five, 290-pound, All-State, All-American Defensive End was only a step away from taking the hundred and eighty pounds that God had given them and slamming them ground-level flat on dirt, on grass, on turf, on their back.

They didn't flinch.
They never hesitated.

Knock them down, and you knew you had to stand up and do it again.

They were tackling dummies in practice.

They were cannon fodder and dared those high-profile, highly-recruited, well-publicized varsity players to take their best shot.

They left their blood on the field.
They left their skin on the turf.
They went home at night battered.
And bruised.

A day without pain was a day that no longer existed for any of them.

But they stood tall and defiant, did the members of those 12th Man Kickoff Teams, and they never stayed down no matter how many times they were hammered to the ground.

They played with broken bones.
They played with twisted ankles.
They played when they would have been better off in an emergency room.
They played hurt simply because they were afraid that an injury, regardless of how serious it might be, could well keep them off the team.

It didn't.

But there was always that nagging fear digging ragged holes in their chests.

Most were high school stars with All-District patches on their back home letter jackets. All-district didn't count anymore.

A few had played on Friday nights before thirty or forty thousand screaming fans. Others had even experienced the glory of Kyle Field during an autumn run of playoff games. And some only knew the agony and ecstasy of grinding it out beneath the dim glare of packed stadiums that barely held four hundred on a good night.

One played six-man football.

And two had never even played a down of high school football. One came from the Fightin' Texas Aggie Band, although he had been on the golf and tennis teams back home, and another had to choose between football and a cello in the high school orchestra. He selected the cello.

But they were all athletes.

They were tough.

They loved to compete.

And while running with the scout teams during practice, they were willing to get battered play after play, day after day, hour after hour, for just one clean, open shot at a starter.

Eyes open.
Jaws clenched.
Muscles tight.
Bones jarred.
Impact.

God, how they loved impact.

In practice, my scholarship players were preparing for Saturday.

For the 12th Man Kickoff Team, every day was game day.

They came with everything they had.

I could count on it.

They made my varsity players better.

I could depend on it.

In practice and in games, they showed no mercy.

They gave no quarter.

They had no idea what the word quit meant.

On kickoffs at home and away from Kyle Field, they had only one goal, and it kept their engine running even when the gas was low. They wanted to keep the kickoff returner inside the twenty yard line, not a yard farther, not a step better, and they faced the best that college football could throw their way, including All-Americans and a Heisman Trophy winner.

During my years as head coach at Texas A&M, no one ever returned a kickoff for a touchdown. Only a couple ever reached the fifty. Every yard came with a price, and it was paid for with stitches and blood.

It was commonplace for the 12th Man Kickoff Team to lead the nation with the fewest return yards allowed, or at least be in the top three. It wasn't unusual at all for them to have a better average in the kickoffs they covered at home than my varsity return team had on the road.

I would have proudly taken them to every game.

I would have lined them up on every kickoff.

I had that much confidence in them.

But NCAA rules limited our travel squad to sixty players, and, except for the last road game of the year when that restriction was eliminated, I had no alternative but to keep my 12th Man Team at home.

Kyle Field has traditionally been recognized as one of the loudest and most frenzied venues in the nation for college football.

But when those towel-waving members of the 12th Man Kickoff Team bolted out of the tunnel, Kyle Field exploded.

The noise was deafening. The decibel level touched nerves that hadn't been touched in years. You could scream, but there was no way you could hear the words you were screaming.

I had All-Americans playing for Texas A&M. Many would go on to have great careers in the NFL playing on Sunday.

But those members of the 12th Man Kickoff Team weren't just a hand-me-down collection of small-time, small-town football players.

On campus, they were rock stars.

They were the Aggie connection with the student body.

And, amidst the tumult and the shouting, they brought the hopes and aspirations of the entire student body down onto Kyle Field with them.

I believed in the 12th Man.

They never let me down, and I never doubted they would.

But then, from the very beginning, nobody else was able to see what I saw or know what I knew about them and the indomitable spirit that drove them so hard.

Individually, they may not have belonged on a college football field. But collectively, they would fight until there was no one left standing, and no one was ever able to get them all.

They had a job to do, and no one did it better.

They were the 12th Man.

They were Texas A&M.

They became a legend.
 
As an Amazon Associate, MacRumors earns a commission from qualifying purchases made through links in this post.
Wirelessly posted (htc EVO 4G: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.2; en-us; Sprint APA9292KT Build/FRF91) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/533.1)

Jackie is still one of the most revered figures in A&M history and he is still (loosely) connected to the program. He was on the sidelines last night.

And we can thank him for not only the walk-on kickoff coverage tradition of the 12th Man (it's a little different now, but it still exists) but also for all the waving towels.

He was at Pitt before A&M and loved the Terrible Towels of the Steelers, so he tied that in with the 12th Man kickoff team and we've been doing it ever since.
 
Wirelessly posted (htc EVO 4G: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.2; en-us; Sprint APA9292KT Build/FRF91) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/533.1)

Jackie is still one of the most revered figures in A&M history and he is still (loosely) connected to the program. He was on the sidelines last night.

And we can thank him for not only the walk-on kickoff coverage tradition of the 12th Man (it's a little different now, but it still exists) but also for all the waving towels.

He was at Pitt before A&M and loved the Terrible Towels of the Steelers, so he tied that in with the 12th Man kickoff team and we've been doing it ever since.

When he first came to MSU, he started something similar called the Mad Dogs. I never really found out why he stopped it. I heard the NCAA put in some rule changes that limited how that all worked, but I never really saw anything definitive. It wouldn't surprise me if the did. The NCAA loves taking the fun out of games.
 
On a different note, check out this video from the A&M game last night. It was shot from the top of the student side (where the freshmen stand). This was during Nebraska's last gasp play with about a minute left (and incomplete pass on Fourth Down).

That video is awesome! Bronco Stadium can get loud, but we still cap out at like 32K seats...

Just don't lose to Nevada ;)

Oh, right, that. ;)

The computers like TCU a lot more.

I wouldn't say "a lot". TCU's average is 3 and our average is 5. That will change next week though. Most "experts" predict our computer averages to be nearly identical at the end of the season.

Why do you think they should jump them, being objective of course. I think TCU has been more impressive on the whole this season personally

I've come to respect your opinion over the last few years, but objectively, I honestly can not see how someone could view TCU's season as more impressive. What is their signature win? Utah? Baylor? San Diego State?

Let's take a look at a few games...

I would put San Diego State and Hawaii on a pretty level platform, although the voters have Hawaii ranked higher.

So, let's compare these two respective home games, and to say both Hawaii and SDSU are one dimensional is pretty fair. Hawaii has the best passing attack in the country, and our defense held them to just 151 yards through the air. Boise State routed Hawaii 42-7, and most of our first string came out late 3rd/early 4th.

TCU was up against the 12th highest passing attack and allowed 262 yards passing. TCU also had their first string in the entire game because it was so close. Their secondary got burnt again and again towards the end because of a lack of discipline. There's no way you can tell me those SDSU receivers are better than TCU's secondary. It was a lack of focus and discipline that beat TCU.

That game should have NEVER been that close, and when you're a non-AQ there is no room for a close game against a non-ranked conference opponent.

The rest of our conference games have been fairly comparable. But what TCU lacks is a statement win. It was supposed to have been Utah, but as it turned out there was a reason TCU walloped them. And Oregon State hasn't really helped either of us.

Plus, Boise State didn't play an FCS team this year, unlike TCU.

Boise State has been dominant in every game but one. We had one close victory when we went across the country and beat a Virginia Tech team that turns out is actually pretty good.

TCU has been dominant in every game except for a middle-of-the-road MWC team at home. That just doesn't cut it.

By objectively looking at the facts, I simply can not see how anyone can say that TCU's season has been more impressive.

So, now that I've stated my case, I would love to hear yours.
 
Oh my case eh? I never said I was objective haha. I must admit I am heavily biased to TCU soooo there you have it haha

But in reality, when you look at their offensive stats and defense, they are both way up there and imo are "equal" in deservedness. They have also convincingly won most of their games apart from a handful (by both teams) Too bad only one has a realistic shot at playing in the NCS and at this point, the momentum seems to be in BSU's favor.......but man I hope TCU holds on lol


Meanwhile I am a very bitter person seeing how CSU just got manhandled by a pathetic Wyoming team and Nebraska lost. Ugh.....and the Broncos (the Denver variety lol) will probably eff it up tomorrow too
 
Last edited:
Interesting stat.

Here are the top five teams and how many bowl eligible teams they've played so far.

Oregon - 2 (Stanford, USC)
Auburn - 6 (Miss. State, Clemson, S. Carolina, Kentucky, Arkansas, LSU)
TCU - 5 (Baylor, SMU, Air Force, Utah, San Diego State)
Boise State - 4 (Virginia Tech, Toledo, Hawaii, Fresno State)
LSU - 6 (North Carolina, Miss. State, West Virginia, Florida, Auburn, Alabama)

Not sure if it really means anything, but still interesting. :)
 
Interesting stat.

Here are the top five teams and how many bowl eligible teams they've played so far.

Oregon - 2 (Stanford, USC)
Auburn - 6 (Miss. State, Clemson, S. Carolina, Kentucky, Arkansas, LSU)
TCU - 5 (Baylor, SMU, Air Force, Utah, San Diego State)
Boise State - 4 (Virginia Tech, Toledo, Hawaii, Fresno State)
LSU - 6 (North Carolina, Miss. State, West Virginia, Florida, Auburn, Alabama)

Not sure if it really means anything, but still interesting. :)

Technically, Oregon has only played one bowl eligible team: Stanford. :)

Running some numbers on the winning percentages of all of those opponents showed some interesting results.
Oregon (I was nice and included USC): 77%
Auburn: 69.7%
TCU: 67.3%
Boise: 69.8%
LSU: 72.3%

For the record, I ran the numbers on Mississippi State: 6 bow eligible teams. Total record: 52-14, for a 78.8% winning percentage. Sometimes I hate playing in the SEC.
 
Wirelessly posted (htc EVO 4G: Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.2; en-us; Sprint APA9292KT Build/FRF91) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/533.1)

A&M has had the hardest schedule in the nation this year despite playing (and beating...looking at you, VT ;)) a I-AA team.

link
 
Last edited:
Interesting stat.

Here are the top five teams and how many bowl eligible teams they've played so far.

Oregon - 2 (Stanford, USC)
Auburn - 6 (Miss. State, Clemson, S. Carolina, Kentucky, Arkansas, LSU)
TCU - 5 (Baylor, SMU, Air Force, Utah, San Diego State)
Boise State - 4 (Virginia Tech, Toledo, Hawaii, Fresno State)
LSU - 6 (North Carolina, Miss. State, West Virginia, Florida, Auburn, Alabama)

Not sure if it really means anything, but still interesting. :)

USC is ineligible for bowls.
 
Technically, Oregon has only played one bowl eligible team: Stanford. :)

You're right! When I was looking in to those numbers I didn't even think about that. Now that it's nearing the end of the season, it is pretty unreal that they're going to have 8 or 9 wins and won't be playing in the post season.
 
The bowls are probably better off without USC since they won't be in a big one. How many fans did they have at the Nut Bowl last year? Besides that, they played their bowl game already (Hawaii, week one).
 
What the?!?

First, why was this released two hours earlier than normal?!? I wanted to watch the countdown show. Lame. Thanks, ESPN.

And how the hell did we not jump them yet?!?

Oh well. We'll jump them next week.

Good luck with all that! ;)

Truth be told though, I would not be upset if BSU jumps us and makes it to the title game. I'll second the: ROLL TIDE!
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.