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2010-2011 College Football Thread
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Wow, everyone is jumping in on this NCAA ruling on Cam Newton.
ACC Commissioner
Fox Sports Southwest says TCU should be the angriest about it. (He also brings up our case with Renardo Sidney)
I like the Washington Post's take.
Gen Wojciechowski from ESPN sums it up best.
I wonder if the NCAA realized what a hornet's nest they were stirring up.
ACC Commissioner
Fox Sports Southwest says TCU should be the angriest about it. (He also brings up our case with Renardo Sidney)
I like the Washington Post's take.
Gen Wojciechowski from ESPN sums it up best.
I wonder if the NCAA realized what a hornet's nest they were stirring up.
Sadly they opted to do the expedient thing and not the right thing
Losing the best college football player, removing an undefeated SEC team for TCU, and losing the Heisman winner were clearly not options for them
They were willing to take the outrage as the lesser of the evils
It is a travesty
Yes, it is a shame that they ruled on him so fast. I'll admit I love to watch Newton play...he's amazing. But I definitely think that there was wrongdoing in how he came to play at Auburn. Too much smoke not to be fire, not to mention his dad admitting he sought money for his son. I really think there might be more Reggie Bush/USC-like punishment to come later, probably after Newton's long gone. But I'm with you...I think the NCAA took what they thought of as the easier route in letting him play now, possibly go to the BCS Championship, maybe win that, then strip it all later. As opposed to making him ineligible now, and creating turmoil with the BCS standings and who goes to the Championship, as I really don't think they want TCU to go. It'd be pandemonium right now if Auburn was kicked out of the picture....TCU...all the really good 1-loss teams claiming they deserve it over TCU. People/fans don't seem quite as irrate when punishments are done retroactively. They (NCAA/BCS) get more money with an Auburn in it (big traditional football school) over a smaller TCU. Not to mention avoiding all the bitching from the 1-loss "big conference" schools. I'll bet the NCAA will come out some time after this year talking about "new evidence" found in this case, and then crack down on Auburn.
Yeah, notice their press release kept saying "based on evidence available at this time". I figure they will come back in a couple of years with new evidence and slap Auburn with probation.
In other news: Poor Miami of Ohio. Last night, they beat Northern Illinois in the Mac championship game to with the MAC title. Too bad the MAC doesn't seem to realize which Miami is in their own conference.
I doubt it will be a couple of years, probably not long after the NFL draft is over
As far as Miami is concerned... too funny!
Tough year in College football
Big 12 Championship Game - Both lost to Texas A&M
SEC Championship Game - Likely to be vacated when the dust settles down the road
ACC Championship Game - Winner is likely to have lost to James Madison
Big East Champion - Likely an unranked 4 loss UConn team
I doubt it will be a couple of years, probably not long after the NFL draft is over
As far as Miami is concerned... too funny!
Tough year in College football
Big 12 Championship Game - Both lost to Texas A&M
SEC Championship Game - Likely to be vacated when the dust settles down the road
ACC Championship Game - Winner is likely to have lost to James Madison
Big East Champion - Likely an unranked 4 loss UConn team
MAC Championship game - Own conference doesn't recognize the champ.
Yeah, that was pretty cool. Since I hate cold weather, it would suck to sit in that as a fan, but it is cool to watch.
I flipped over to the CUSA championship game, and after watching for a few minutes, I have a memo for the SMU band. After all SMU has been through, I know you are happy to be playing for a conference title, but the band doesn't have to play the school fight song after EVERY FIRST DOWN! It's a first down, get over it. Sure, fire up the band after a big play or a TD, but not after every freakin' first down. It's annoying.
Yep, thats the line that makes me feel like they made this quick decision just to get it out of the limelight and get through this season. If they made the call now to disqualify all the wins, then you'd have to postpone the SEC championship in Atlanta today, get the 2nd place west team in there, and all the other crap dealing with the National title. Too much headache to do it now. This gets them past that, yet purposely leaves it open ended to deal out the real penalty later. Hopefully South Carolina will beat them today, and make the BCS/NCAA deal with the choice of who goes to the national title game anyway!
They had plenty of time to deal with this in advance
I believe the player is typically suspended pending review and petition for reinstatement (AJ Green)
They (NCAA/Auburn) knew about this prior to the Dawg game and nobody dealt with it
No excuse
Period
I'm not saying there's any excuse for it, but it's just the way they are handling it now. Heck, for all we know, with all the "big money" people involved (according to that link we saw earlier in this thread regarding the supposed corruption in their athletic dept), there could be all kinds of deals going on behind the scenes. I'm not naive enough to believe that the NCAA couldn't be influenced by people with money. It's even rumored (again, if all that stuff in the link posted earlier in the thread) that the SEC commissioner Slive has been in on it or aware of "pay for play" schemes. Who knows...what if there was an agreement made to let them finish out the season, then strip retroactively? Again, that's probably a stretch, but I wouldn't rule it out 100%. Heck...Auburn themselves declared him ineligible...that to me is them admitting they know they are in hot water. I'm not saying the NCAA shouldn't have acted sooner, like you said, they've known about it for a while now. For whatever reason, they've been pretty slow in reacting to this case. Why did they (NCAA) jump up so fast and overturn the university's own ruling on Newton's ineligibility? That's odd to me.
The university is "required" to declare ineligible when they know of an infraction
Then they can apply for reinstatement
Auburn knew and did nothing
IMO, they only did so after they cut a deal with the NCAA to immediately reinstate him
That way they both could claim they followed procedure, but with no real consequence
Then they can apply for reinstatement
Auburn knew and did nothing
IMO, they only did so after they cut a deal with the NCAA to immediately reinstate him
That way they both could claim they followed procedure, but with no real consequence
That's all basically what I'm saying. My bigger questions are why is the NCAA so eager to do that ("cut a deal" and keep Newton on the field)? Creates less sh** for them to deal with immediately? Money? Combination of both?
Auburn and the NCAA were both going to take a hit on this regardless of what they did
They would rather clean it up on the backside after the dust settles, rather than the front side
They hope everyone is stupid enough to believe them, or to not care
Let's win the championship and the Heisman and then run a retraction on the back page later where nobody will notice we effed up
USC should be screaming, as should others (and they are)
If this were a 7-4 Auburn team he would have been done mid season
But there were so many "feel good" stories about him prior to the scandal(s)
(Lets not forget the legal problems and the cheating at Florida)
He is the best player
His team is an undefeated SEC team
He has engineered 8 comebacks, some incredible (South Carolina, Georgia, Bama)
He has big smile
He is the poster child for everything the NCAA and Auburn wants
Except he is a thief, a cheater and a mercenary
But why let any of that get in the way?
Ok, we are both saying exactly the same thing. Everything you've said is exactly what I feel has happened. It's a lot less backlash on the NCAA to "clean it up/fix it/dole out punishment" after the fact and strip titles than to do it now. People don't really care after the fact...the title has been won and all fans will still feel good about it. Plus, stripping them of everything before next season still makes the NCAA look like they are doing their job (and most clueless people will still think they uphold the "integrity of the game") and not take a negative publicity hit, when in actuality they've had the evidence all this time. You just know that they will release their "in light of new evidence (not really new),...." statement when they finally clean this up next year (or whenever they finally do). I hate the precedent they are setting with this crap. Maybe Spurrier and USC will throw a big wrench in the system today too....wait...that wouldn't work, because that helps the NCAA out too (if S. Carolina wins today). Then there's nothing for the NCAA to strip from Auburn. I mean technically there will be (wins with Newton), but I doubt they'll (NCAA) have to touch that if Auburn isn't in the championship game...no one will care about vacated wins of a non-championship team.
7 -7
South Carolina not gonna role over
One of the very few times I am rooting for "the old ball coach"
Although, I have to say, I find him far less "hateable" since he left Florida
I hate the Gators
South Carolina not gonna role over
One of the very few times I am rooting for "the old ball coach"
Although, I have to say, I find him far less "hateable" since he left Florida
I hate the Gators
Oh, of course
Nick Fairley is a god
And Cam Newton "has been cleared by the NCAA so that means everything is fine"
Wrong
Nick Fairly is a two bit thug who should be banned
And Cam Newton is a thief, a cheater and mercenary
It borders on Tebow levels
EDIT
Nice score by SC to end the half
And they get the ball
EDIT2
Spoke too soon
Hail Mary for Auburn
Oh, of course
Nick Fairley is a god
And Cam Newton "has been cleared by the NCAA so that means everything is fine"
Wrong
Nick Fairly is a two bit thug who should be banned
And Cam Newton is a thief, a cheater and mercenary
It borders on Tebow levels
EDIT
Nice score by SC to end the half
And they get the ball
EDIT2
Spoke too soon
Hail Mary for Auburn
Couldn't have said it better myself. I can't stand either of them. Nick Fairly is also freaking cheap shot artist.