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And now, a little humor from the Onion. Big East says TCU can only join if they bring girls. :)

Luckily we have no dearth of those. For a school of only a few thousand, TCU has a shockingly high number of smoking hot girls.

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We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't see a team in the Top-10 that wouldn't beat OU handily. Looking at your schedule - your one statement win is against a middle of the road FSU, and then squeakers over a bunch of teams that range from mediocre to simply horrible (sadly, I have to include Texas in the latter bunch).

You guys might have shown flashes of greatness from time to time, but I don't think you're Top-10 this year. But hell, I could be wrong - it's just unfortunate we'll never really know, since you're paired with UConn. Maybe we'll have a better idea after we see how the rest of the conference does - A&M and LSU will be a good barometer of where the Big 12 is.


You forgot OU struggled on the Road all year. Take away the home games and it looks even worse for them. I do not think they are a top 10 team at all and are living just off being over rated.
 
Luckily we have no dearth of those. For a school of only a few thousand, TCU has a shockingly high number of smoking hot girls.

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Yep, that you do. Then again, the entire state has loads of smoking hot girls. With all due respect to The Beach Boys and Diamond Dave, I'll take Southern girls over California Girls any day. :D (UGA and UF seem to have a crazy amount as well)
 
Some early lines are out on the bowl games...

  • BCS: Auburn (-1.5) vs. Oregon
  • Rose: TCU (pick) vs. Wisconsin
  • Sugar: Ohio St (-2.5) vs. Arkansas
  • Orange: Stanford (-3) vs. Virginia Tech
  • Fiesta: OU (-17) vs. UConn
  • Cotton: LSU (-2.5) vs. Texas A&M
  • Toilet: Offseason (-28) vs. Texas
  • Capital One: Alabama (-7) vs. Michigan St
  • Gator: Miss St (-5) vs. Michigan
  • Liberty: Georgia (-6) vs. UCF
 
Some early lines are out on the bowl games...

  • BCS: Auburn (-1.5) vs. Oregon
  • Rose: TCU (pick) vs. Wisconsin
  • Sugar: Ohio St (-2.5) vs. Arkansas
  • Orange: Stanford (-3) vs. Virginia Tech
  • Fiesta: OU (-17) vs. UConn
  • Cotton: LSU (-2.5) vs. Texas A&M
    [*]Toilet: Offseason (-28) vs. Texas
  • Capital One: Alabama (-7) vs. Michigan St
  • Gator: Miss St (-5) vs. Michigan
  • Liberty: Georgia (-6) vs. UCF

It took me a minute, but... :D
 

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So even though A&M was clearly the better team when the two teams met (two TDs better, in fact) on the field

Clearly? OU was three dropped passes in the end zone and two goal-line stands from blowing A&M away. Mistakes cost us that game - I can't see how A&M was "clearly the better team."

If they played that game again, even in College Station, the result would be WAY different.

You forgot OU struggled on the Road all year.

I wouldn't say "all year," but definitely the first half of the season.
 
Clearly? OU was three dropped passes in the end zone and two goal-line stands from blowing A&M away. Mistakes cost us that game - I can't see how A&M was "clearly the better team."

If they played that game again, even in College Station, the result would be WAY different.

Nice rationalization. A&M turned the ball over twice to OU's once. A&M had 13 penalties compared to OU's four. OU ran 104 plays compared to A&M's 70.

And yet A&M won by two TDs. Why? Not because of a couple of dropped passes but because OU's running game got shut down (72 yards on 44 carries, 1.6 ypc) and, despite all their success in the middle of the field, OU's offense got stuffed time after time in the red zone (only two scores in six penetrations).

A&M led from the very beginning of the game (on a lucky bad snap, I'll concede; but then we drove right down for a quick TD) and never trailed. Even if OU had managed to score on those two fourth quarter goal line stands, all that does is tie the score (assuming A&M doesn't score again when taking over from somewhere outside their own one yardline).

OU got beat handily by a better team. I know it hasn't been that way since Stoops showed up in Norman, but that's how it was this year. That's the long and the short of it. Whether or not you accept the truth is irrelevant.
 
OU got beat handily by a better team. I know it hasn't been that way since Stoops showed up in Norman, but that's how it was this year. That's the long and the short of it. Whether or not you accept the truth is irrelevant.

I was with you until that part. I can't get on board with A&M being the "better team" - even if you won that meeting. You seem hell-bent on basing your entire season's evaluation on that game, and it's just plain wrong.
 
I was with you until that part. I can't get on board with A&M being the "better team" - even if you won that meeting. You seem hell-bent on basing your entire season's evaluation on that game, and it's just plain wrong.

coming from the team who has lost ever BCS game it has gone to the past 10 years. Maybe it is high time to let someone else go because as the record stands either the big 12 complete sucks or OU is just over rated. Take your pick
 
I was with you until that part. I can't get on board with A&M being the "better team" - even if you won that meeting. You seem hell-bent on basing your entire season's evaluation on that game, and it's just plain wrong.

Actually, when A&M was sitting at 3-3 I was on record (here and elsewhere) as stating that A&M was underachieving; that Sherman wasn't getting the job done; that they had given away the OSU game, played uninspired against Arkansas and just quit against Missouri. But then Tannehill was put in at QB, the defense started to click, and everything changed.

I'm not basing the whole season on the OU game. Though it was certainly a great performance and a turning point, the real defining moments of this season for A&M were rallying to beat Baylor after trailing 30-14 in the second quarter, winning an epic defensive struggle against Nebraska (in the kind of game that A&M hasn't played in more than a decade), and turning away a desperate rival in Austin.

By the end of the year, most people (though obviously not you) agree that A&M is playing the best football in the Big 12. The Aggies have the longest winning streak in the conference, are the only team to have gone undefeated in November, and beat two top ten teams to do it.

We can debate this endlessly without ever changing each other's minds, but the bottom line is that the two teams have the same conference record (push), similar overall records (plus to OU) and A&M won head-to-head (plus to A&M). The head-to-head means more to me when deciding who the better team is than a nonconference game in late September/early October, especially when the caliber of opponent is nowhere near equal.
 
Actually, when A&M was sitting at 3-3 I was on record (here and elsewhere) as stating that A&M was underachieving; that Sherman wasn't getting the job done; that they had given away the OSU game, played uninspired against Arkansas and just quit against Missouri. But then Tannehill was put in at QB, the defense started to click, and everything changed.

I'm not basing the whole season on the OU game. Though it was certainly a great performance and a turning point, the real defining moments of this season for A&M were rallying to beat Baylor after trailing 30-14 in the second quarter, winning an epic defensive struggle against Nebraska (in the kind of game that A&M hasn't played in more than a decade), and turning away a desperate rival in Austin.

By the end of the year, most people (though obviously not you) agree that A&M is playing the best football in the Big 12. The Aggies have the longest winning streak in the conference, are the only team to have gone undefeated in November, and beat two top ten teams to do it.

We can debate this endlessly without ever changing each other's minds, but the bottom line is that the two teams have the same conference record (push), similar overall records (plus to OU) and A&M won head-to-head (plus to A&M). The head-to-head means more to me when deciding who the better team is than a nonconference game in late September/early October, especially when the caliber of opponent is nowhere near equal.

Lets see A&M beat Neb and OU. No getting around that fact.

Fact 2. Neb beat OU in during the regular season. Neb beat OSU. On those grounds alone A&M should of played for big 12 champain. But OU got it because of its ranking. So no I will say OU big 12 champ this year is a hollow one at best.

A&M welcome to the been screwed by the big 12 club.
 
This A&M crap reminds me of the bickering associated with Utah a few years back. Get over it. There is a system in place and everyone agreed to it before hand. A&M did not get "screwed". Move on
 
Neb beat OU in during the regular season.

Nebraska didn't play OU in the regular season. OU's losses are to A&M and Missouri.

This A&M crap reminds me of the bickering associated with Utah a few years back. Get over it. There is a system in place and everyone agreed to it before hand. A&M did not get "screwed". Move on

You won't hear me saying that A&M got screwed. It sucks that we were penalized by the BCS so much for losing to a top 10 team early in the year, and it sucks that the BCS is the tiebreaker, but we made our own bed by turning the ball over so much against OSU and laying an egg against Missouri.

I like to bait the Sooner fans, and I do think that A&M is playing better ball than anyone else in the league right now, but most Aggies know that we were never going to win that tiebreaker. And anyway, we're ecstatic that we're playing LSU in the Cotton Bowl. It's not a BCS game, but it's the next best thing. And for us, it's even bigger because we're playing an old rival that's actually well-respected (unlike every other Big 12 bowl opponent).
 
Interesting times in the Big 12 (South): like Texas (but for different reasons), it appears OU is going to be searching for a new Offensive Coordinator soon.

@TomDienhart said:
AP reports Kevin Wilson will be hired as Indiana coach.

Okie State could be in the market soon, too, as Dana Holgersen could be headed to Florida as their new OC, or possibly somewhere else as a head coach.

A&M Assistant Head Coach/QBs Coach Tom Rossley is also thought to be considering retirement (he's old and has had some health problems), so even though Mike Sherman was his own OC this year, there's a chance he could go out and replace Rossley with an OC. One of the names I've heard for a lot of these jobs is Tulsa OC Chad Morris, who went to A&M and coached high school ball in Austin.
 
Some early lines are out on the bowl games...

  • BCS: Auburn (-1.5) vs. Oregon
  • Rose: TCU (pick) vs. Wisconsin
  • Sugar: Ohio St (-2.5) vs. Arkansas
  • Orange: Stanford (-3) vs. Virginia Tech
  • Fiesta: OU (-17) vs. UConn
  • Cotton: LSU (-2.5) vs. Texas A&M
  • Toilet: Offseason (-28) vs. Texas
  • Capital One: Alabama (-7) vs. Michigan St
  • Gator: Miss St (-5) vs. Michigan
  • Liberty: Georgia (-6) vs. UCF
Love the signature and the toilet bowl
 
Not to harp on the Newton thing, but there is a good reason why everybody who is not an Auburn fan thinks they are guilty as hell in the whole Newton thing. Check out this article discussing Bobby Lowder, former CEO of Colonial Bank and chairman of the Auburn Finance Committee and a major athletic booster. Oh yeah, he is also a long-time member of the Board of Trustees. It's a long article, but worth the read.
 
Yep, that you do. Then again, the entire state has loads of smoking hot girls. With all due respect to The Beach Boys and Diamond Dave, I'll take Southern girls over California Girls any day. :D (UGA and UF seem to have a crazy amount as well)

I can speak on this from a personal experience...TCU chics indeed are very hot! :D
 
And now we see the real reason players want to go to a bowl game. The goodies. :)

Check out this article on the gifts bowl games give out.

Here is a list of the specific gifts the bowl games are giving out this year.

Edit: Forgot to say that the SEC coaches actually did something cool when voting for the All-SEC team. They voted Nick Bell honorary captain of the All-SEC team.
 
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I've never really paid much attention to college bowls, because I never really paid attention to college sports before now. But I after reading the post above, and seeing the list of bowl games...

Wow...that's a whole lot of corporate sponsorship going on. The "R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl"?? "The Beef O' Brady's Bowl"??? "The Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl" (could you come up with a longer one?). I guess it just feeds into my sheer distaste of corporate branding of everything. I hate when arenas and amphitheatres have a new name every other year...you see a concert advertised and have no idea where it is because the venue has yet another new name. Like Lakewood Amphitheatre in Atlanta became HiFi Buys Amphitheatre, then Aaron's Amphitheatre....but everyone still calls it Lakewood. Ugh.

OK...so back on topic...yeah TCU and stuff.
 
I received a fantastic routing today. It allowed me to give the bird to the two things that annoy me the most - the University of Oklahoma, and fans of Texas A&M. At the X, I flipped off Norman on the left, and IgnatiusTheKing to my right. :p:p
 

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Wow. Occasionally, some people realize football isn't all about money.

Fresno State coach Pat Hill agrees to a pay cut to help out the university.

Former Mississippi State safety Keith Fitzhugh turned down a possible return to the NFL (and possibly being cut again) to stay at his current job so he can keep supporting his family.
 
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