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2010-2011 College Football Thread

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I think he would leave for the right opportunity
Is UGA that opportunity? I don't know, only he would know that

It would have to be a combination of...
Money
Location
Conference
Tradition
Opportunity to win
Etc.

I think the only coach guaranteed not to go to another program is JoPa

Urban Meyer "arrived" at Florida as well
But rumors have him going to Ohio State when Tressel leaves
 
IgnatiusTheKing said:
The SEC is definitely a step-up from the MWC or the Big East, but I don't think you'll be seeing Patterson leaving TCU anytime soon. Most coaches who are looking to make a move leave after 3-4 years (or even less if they have little character), but when a guy is at a school for 10 years (13 including his time as an assistant) it becomes less likely each year that he'll go anywhere. And while K-State isn't even close to the same caliber of job that UGA is, it's Patterson's Alma mater. If he turned them down before TCU got to AQ status, why would he turn down a more difficult gig when TCU is on top?

Plus, while a undefeated team from the Big East isn't guaranteed a spot in the BCS "championship" like an undefeated team from the SEC (practically) is, in the current, ridiculous system we have, where you start is more important than who you play. TCU is at the point right now where they will start high every year as long as they keep winning. Next year they've got to break in a lot of new players, but if they win a ton of games again in 2011, they start their first Big East season in the top 10, at worst.
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Pretty much along my line of thinking as well, and what I was trying (unsuccessfully apparently) to say.

MacDawg said:
The only thing the Big East does for you is get you in a BCS game even if you suck as long as you win the conference
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The only thing that I think is a bit difference is that it seems that reputation and "clout" also help in getting key rankings. Patterson/TCU are building a good repuation/clout, and I feel an undefeated Big East (automatic qualifying...therefore "supposed" to be better than a non-AQ team) TCU would have enough clout/influence to get into a national championship game easier than an non-AQ undefeated team. My reasoning for saying that a team's clout/reputation matters is this...say GA Tech, Maryland, or North Carolina were to go undefeated and win the ACC championship, it's going to be said that the ACC was weak that year, and more than likely those teams wouldn't get into the NC if there were 2 other undefeated teams from AQ conferences. But, if Va Tech were to be undefeated, they are "supposed" to be there (due to reputation/clout), and would honestly have a better chance of getting in a NC game over the other ACC teams I mentioned above. Plus, as Ignatius said, starting position in the polls comes into play. Va Tech will typically start higher in the pre-season polls than the ACC teams I mentioned, thus have a better chance. TCU will now start doing that, plus be in a "better" conference (relative term, but the 6 AQ conferences still get preferential treatment) in the Big East in 2012. Of course most of this is my opinion, and I'm often wrong! :D
 
Not sure I see this as much of an upgrade either
I think Edsall just felt a little stagnant and wanted out of his current program

He was a hot commodity a few years ago, but his stock had fallen

So much for Mike Leach

Sources: Randy Edsall to Maryland

Randy Edsall, who built a fledgling Connecticut program into a Big East champion and BCS bowl team, has been hired by Maryland to succeed Ralph Friedgen, sources told ESPN's Joe Schad on Sunday.

Edsall, whose team lost to Oklahoma in Saturday night's Tostistos Fiesta Bowl, did not return Sunday to Connecticut on the UConn charter flight.

Instead of returning home with the team after the Fiesta Bowl, UConn's Randy Edsall flew to Maryland to meet with school officials, sources say.
Instead, said ESPN.com sources, he and his family were to fly from Phoenix to Maryland to meet with Terrapin school officials.
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Not an upgrade for Maryland (as far as coaches go), or not an upgrade for Edsell (as far as schools go)? If we are talking not an upgrade for Edsell, I'd much rather coach at Maryland than UConn. Probably slightly easier to recruit there. Although I think the athletic administration there may have unrealistic expectations as to how good they can be. I don't think Friedgen's performance has been that bad, considering where he was coaching.

MacDawg said:
Not sure I see this as much of an upgrade either
I think Edsall just felt a little stagnant and wanted out of his current program

He was a hot commodity a few years ago, but his stock had fallen

So much for Mike Leach

Sources: Randy Edsall to Maryland
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chris975d said:
Not an upgrade for Maryland (as far as coaches go), or not an upgrade for Edsell (as far as schools go)? If we are talking not an upgrade for Edsell, I'd much rather coach at Maryland than UConn. Probably slightly easier to recruit there. Although I think the athletic administration there may have unrealistic expectations as to how good they can be. I don't think Friedgen's performance has been that bad, considering where he was coaching.
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Actually, I don't think either was an upgrade
 
MacDawg said:
Actually, I don't think either was an upgrade
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Ehh...I think he's a decent coach. He's pretty much single-handedly built that football program at UConn. Although I think similar to you in that maybe his best days might be behind him, but...maybe it has to do with the level of talent he can (or can't) get at UConn. Who knows. I doubt he'll have much better success at Maryland (if he is in fact being offered the job) than he did at UConn.
 
MacDawg said:
I honestly don't think an undefeated Big East team has any better chance at a BCS championship than an undefeated non-AQ team. If TCU had been in the Big East this year, they would have still been on the outside looking in. And if Auburn or Oregon had faltered, I believe TCU would have been in whether they were in the Big East or not.

The only thing the Big East does for you is get you in a BCS game even if you suck as long as you win the conference
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If Boise hadn't lost to Nevada, there's a good chance TCU would have ended up in the Vegas Bowl or something. That is the difference between being in the Big East and being in the MWC. It's not very often that three BCS conference teams finish the regular season undefeated, but if there are only two and the Big East champ is one of them (especially if they start in the top 5) they will make it to the "championship" game 99 times out of 100 (or better).

As for the notion that Patterson would leave TCU for the "perfect" situation, I think you are ignoring one huge factor...TCU seems to be his idea of the perfect job. Moving to an AQ-conference, even the least-respected one, makes it almost impossible to pry him away IMO. Add to that the fact that he makes over $2M per year (including incentives) and will probably get another pay hike soon, and I just don't see him leaving. Of course anything could happen, I just don't see it.
 
furcalchick said:
is it just me, or do all of these bowl games stink this year? only about 5 good bowl games so far...
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The Rose Bowl was pretty good, and I enjoyed the outcome of the Fiesta bowl - but to me, most of the bowls have been stinkers, primarily because of matchups and not gameplay. I don't need to see a pair of 6-6 teams in a pillowfight and call it a "bowl game."
 
Tomorrow said:
The Rose Bowl was pretty good, and I enjoyed the outcome of the Fiesta bowl - but to me, most of the bowls have been stinkers, primarily because of matchups and not gameplay. I don't need to see a pair of 6-6 teams in a pillowfight and call it a "bowl game."
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As one of those 6-6 teams (which ended 6-7) I agree
The Rose was the only game that really interested me
 
furcalchick said:
is it just me, or do all of these bowl games stink this year? only about 5 good bowl games so far...
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I agree as well. The only one that I even really wanted to watch was the Rose Bowl, and it ended up being a great game. There's too many bowls, and not really any good match-ups. I'm with MacDawg and Tomorrow in that there's no interest (to me, at least) in all the 6-6 teams playing in bowls. My team (Ga Tech) is one of those teams, and I never thought we should have even went to a bowl. A .500 team doesn't deserve to be in one, and it (again, to me) cheapens the whole bowl scene.
 
I dunno, I was pretty happy with the Gator Bowl. :D

There have been a few entertaining bowls. Sometimes those 6-6 teams can provide some crazy games. I really liked the Kansas State - Syracuse game until the refs ruined it. The FIU - Toledo game was fun, too. The Music City Bowl with UNC - Tennessee was interesting.
 
steve2112 said:
There have been a few entertaining bowls. Sometimes those 6-6 teams can provide some crazy games.
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And, for the Papists in the crowd (I am not one) let us not forget the strong finish by ND, for 8-5, plus their bowl win.

They shocked a few opponents towards the end of the regular season.

This will make Regis very happy .... and who knows, maybe back into the Top 25 next year?

:D
 
iJohnHenry said:
And, for the Papists in the crowd (I am not one) let us not forget the strong finish by ND, for 8-5, plus their bowl win.

They shocked a few opponents towards the end of the regular season.

This will make Regis very happy .... and who knows, maybe back into the Top 25 next year?

:D
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They also got shocked, since they lost to Navy and Tulsa down the stretch. Ah well, I guess everything can't go the right way. I can't stand Notre Dame. Sadly, I think Brian Kelly might just bring them back.

I think my Irish Catholic ancestors will haunt me forever for hating Notre Dame. :)

Edit: OK, this is from the "Kick 'em when they're down" category. It's good to see some Michigan fans are keeping their sense of humor about the whole situation.
 
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Uf has announced 8 of its 9 coaches. Looks like James Willis will take the last spot.

Will Muschamp Head Coach
Stan Drayton Running Backs
D.J. Durkin Linebackers/Special Teams Coordinator
Aubrey Hill Wide Receivers
Travaris Robinson Defensive Backs
Dan Quinn Defensive Coordinator/Defensive Line
Frank Verducci Offensive Line/Running Game Coordinator
Charlie Weis Offensive Coordinator/Quarterbacks
Brian White Tight Ends
Mickey Marotti Director of Strength and Conditioning


I dont know much of anything about Quinn or Verducci, but everyone on the internets in Gator land thinks they are amazing hires. Quinn is the DC of the Seahawks or something like that, and Verducci was the OL coach at Iowa under Hayden Fry and sent a lot of people to the NFL. I know Brian White is a great recruiter and was Wisconsin's OC for a while also.
 
More interesting stuff coming out about Terrelle Pryor. According to this article, he has gotten three traffic violations in the past three years while driving vehicles that belong to car dealerships. According to the article, there were no violations, since the cars were loaners while his car was being worked on at the dealership. Ohio State officials were only aware of two of them. In one incident in 2008, the one they weren't aware of, he was stopped driving a 2004 GMC Denali. His reason for driving this one?

I wanted advice from some of my family and friends I trusted to see if it would be a good vehicle for me to maybe buy.
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Oh yeah, and the car dealership has several OSU autographed jerseys hanging in their dealership, including one from Pryor and two of the suspended players. One of the comments on the article brought up a good point. Didn't he say he sold his rings and other stuff because his family needed the money? So, how exactly was he going to purchase a GMC Denali, one of the most expensive SUVs GMC sells?
 
This Orange Bowl is just more proof that the BCS sucks. If we're going to be forced to watch crummy teams like UConn and VaTech play in the "marquee" bowl games, at least put them against each other. How much more entertaining would an OU-Stanford Fiesta and a VT-UConn Orange have been? Maybe the bowls could have actually sold all of their seats, too...
 
Somewhere Bill Walsh smiling down on The Farm.

We thank you Bill

now if you could provide divine intervention to your other masterpiece, that would be appreciated


Thanks,

Bay Area football fans
 
IgnatiusTheKing said:
This Orange Bowl is just more proof that the BCS sucks. If we're going to be forced to watch crummy teams like UConn and VaTech play in the "marquee" bowl games, at least put them against each other. How much more entertaining would an OU-Stanford Fiesta and a VT-UConn Orange have been? Maybe the bowls could have actually sold all of their seats, too...
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I wouldn't say the Orange Bowl proved that Virginia Tech was "crummy" so much as it proved this year's Stanford team was incredibly good.

Last night was all about coaching, schemes and execution. VT has a lot of athletes on both sides of the ball but they were completely unable to deal with either Stanford's blocking schemes or their blitzes. Much respect to Tyrod Taylor for making some things happen when the rest of his team couldn't do anything.

Man, I wish Stanford could get another crack at Oregon on a neutral field now.
 
cuestakid said:
Somewhere Bill Walsh smiling down on The Farm.

We thank you Bill

now if you could provide divine intervention to your other masterpiece, that would be appreciated


Thanks,

Bay Area football fans
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Enjoy it while it lasts. I think Harbaugh is going elsewhere. The question is where. Hopefully, it will be the 49ers. I've been a fan since the early 80s when I first saw Joe Montana beat the Cowboys.

MacDawg said:
Tressel would probably be better off if Pryor goes on to the NFL
If he stays, he might bring the whole program down on top of him

Rumor has it that Urban Meyer wants the Ohio State job when he leaves
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Nah, the NCAA would just give them another slap on the wrist. Or suspend the sentence. I can't see Meyer at OSU, though. I don't know if B10+2 fans would be willing to accept the spread after the Rich Rod fiasco.

Silencio said:
I wouldn't say the Orange Bowl proved that Virginia Tech was "crummy" so much as it proved this year's Stanford team was incredibly good.
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Not to take anything away from Stanford, since I love seeing the smart kids have a good season, but I think it really showed how terrible VT and the ACC were. VT went undefeated in conference play, and got whipped by Stanford.
 
steve2112 said:
Not to take anything away from Stanford, since I love seeing the smart kids have a good season, but I think it really showed how terrible VT and the ACC were. VT went undefeated in conference play, and got whipped by Stanford.
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Exactly. Stanford is damned good team, but VT got exposed last night. Their only quality win all year was against a decent (not great) FSU team in the ACC championship game. Plus, they LOST TO JAMES MADISON.
 
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