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No ****. Too bad Arkie's receivers forgot how to catch.
 
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I can't believe Arkansas didn't run that blocked punt in.
 

They thought that Central Florida was a push over. Hah, we showed them.

According to the article, it is pretty standard fare. The Senior Event is held before the bowl game and plaques are distributed with the team record. Regardless of the opponent, what school, team or coach would post a Bowl LOSS on the plaque before the game was played? My guess is this happens more often than not at other schools as well. Why this showed up on ESPN is likely just a dig at the Dawgs for an embarrassing loss to UCF. Of course the Dawgs are not the first team to have a disappointing season and to cash it in before a meaningless Bowl game. My preference would have been for them to have declined a Bowl invitation to begin with if they had no intention of showing up for it. But that would mean loss of $$$ and practice time, not that the practice time was of any really benefit to them.

On another note...
No respect for Ohio State's program or Tressel for allowing the sanctioned players to play in this game
On the other hand, I have no respect for Petrino and how he handled the Auburn/Tubberville and Falcon/Hogs debacles

Of course, it is easy for me to pass judgement from where I am sitting :eek:
 
My preference would have been for them to have declined a Bowl invitation to begin with if they had no intention of showing up for it. But that would mean loss of $$$ and practice time

I doubt UGA actually made any money off the Liberty Bowl. The payout is less than $2M, and after paying for travel expenses for the team, band, cheerleaders, support staff, etc., and especially after eating the cost of any unsold tickets, it's unlikely there was much left over.
 
I doubt UGA actually made any money off the Liberty Bowl. The payout is less than $2M, and after paying for travel expenses for the team, band, cheerleaders, support staff, etc., and especially after eating the cost of any unsold tickets, it's unlikely there was much left over.

They would also factor in the advertisement for the program, another bowl appearance to add to the "xx straight bowl appearances", recruitment "we are always in a bowl", etc.

However, the negative impact of losing this bowl game outweighs any gains in my opinion
 
Ya good thing the NCAA didn't sanction their starters or they might have lost.:rolleyes:

No respect for Ohio State's program or Tressel for allowing the sanctioned players to play in this game

Yes, the NCAA sanctioned the players for the first 5 games next season. Ohio State didn't determine the punishment, the NCAA did. They will serve their punishments when the NCAA says they should. Why should they start it early?
 
Yes, the NCAA sanctioned the players for the first 5 games next season. Ohio State didn't determine the punishment, the NCAA did. They will serve their punishments when the NCAA says they should. Why should they start it early?

A. The NCAA did the wrong thing
B. Tressel and Ohio State had the opportunity to do the right thing

Otherwise, why have the team vote whether to let them play and then have them commit to coming back next year at all? It was all a sham

I think BOTH the NCAA and THE Ohio State University did the wrong thing and sent the wrong messages
 
Yes, the NCAA sanctioned the players for the first 5 games next season. Ohio State didn't determine the punishment, the NCAA did. They will serve their punishments when the NCAA says they should. Why should they start it early?

They only sanctioned them for next year because a) they knew most (if not all) of them will just leave school early and b) because the Sugar Bowl successfully lobbied to let them play the game, knowing that without those six, the game would probably be a bloodbath in favor of Arkansas.

On Tuesday, after the apologies, Sugar Bowl CEO Paul Hoolahan had no problem letting everybody know that he pressured Ohio State to fight as hard as it could to keep the players eligible for the game, and have the suspensions put off until next season. *Apparently Hoolahan first heard about the suspensions on December 7, a full two weeks before they became public.
 
I doubt UGA actually made any money off the Liberty Bowl. The payout is less than $2M, and after paying for travel expenses for the team, band, cheerleaders, support staff, etc., and especially after eating the cost of any unsold tickets, it's unlikely there was much left over.

The payout for the Gator was around $1.2M, and our AD admitted we were losing money. He also said it was well worth it, which is one reason I like him. We didn't take the hit on ticket sales, though. We sold out our allotment of non-student tickets.

Yes, the NCAA sanctioned the players for the first 5 games next season. Ohio State didn't determine the punishment, the NCAA did. They will serve their punishments when the NCAA says they should. Why should they start it early?

I agree with MacDawg. That NCAA punishment was a sham from the start. OSU could have gone above and beyond and punished the players on their own, but chose not to do so.

They only sanctioned them for next year because a) they knew most (if not all) of them will just leave school early and b) because the Sugar Bowl successfully lobbied to let them play the game, knowing that without those six, the game would probably be a bloodbath in favor of Arkansas.

Nice. Gotta love all the backroom deals going on in the bowl games.
 
I agree with MacDawg. That NCAA punishment was a sham from the start. OSU could have gone above and beyond and punished the players on their own, but chose not to do so.

I agree that the NCAA punishment was a sham. That said, do you think any other university would have done anything different than Ohio State did? I don't think so.
 
Realistically, no. A smaller school in a smaller bowl maybe, but most likely any BCS school in a BCS bowl would have done any differently.

I agree that the NCAA punishment was a sham. That said, do you think any other university would have done anything different than Ohio State did? I don't think so.

No, but it doesn't make it right
And it continues to send the wrong message

FWIW I would be saying the same thing if it had been UGA
 
It's about $$$ guys. First 5 games of next season? No biggie. The money and ratings from a bowl game? Biggie.

I know, and it is wrong
It teaches the kids exactly what is wrong about college football and life
It reinforces the very behavior they are punishing

Player... I want to make a few bucks here off my success, this is my stuff after all, and I can sell it

NCAA... <buzzer> no you can't, it is a rules violation and you are not allowed to profit off of your name, success or anything else. We are going to sanction you. However, WE are going to profit off of you by allowing you to play in the highly visible BCS Bowl game

Ohio State... WE are going to profit off you as well by winning the game, recruiting, etc.

The whole thing is hypocritical and a sham

The better punishment would have been to deprive them of the bowl game and let them play in the 5 meaningless games to start next season
 
It's about $$$ guys. First 5 games of next season? No biggie. The money and ratings from a bowl game? Biggie.

Yep. They should drop this whole academic pretense, pay the players, and turn it all into a minor league for the pros.
 
I didn't say I thought it was right or anything. I just said I think most other programs would have done the same thing.

BTW, after the false start yesterday, Michigan finally fired Rich Rodriguez.

Rich Rod to Pitt?
Would make an interesting Backyard Brawl ;)

Edit: Apparently not

Source: Pitt's job search under way

Pittsburgh has begun interviews to replace former coach Mike Haywood, a source close to the search said, adding it's not expected that Rich Rodriguez will be a candidate.

Rodriguez was fired Wednesday after three seasons as Michigan's coach.

According to the source, among those who are strong candidates at Pittsburgh include Alabama associate head coach Sal Sunseri, Tulsa coach Todd Graham, Penn State defensive coordinator Tom Bradley, Wisconsin offensive coordinator Paul Chryst and former Florida defensive coordinator Teryl Austin.

Haywood replaced Dave Wannstedt on Dec. 16, but he was fired on New Year's Day after a custody issue developed in Indiana with a woman with whom Haywood has a child.

Haywood, who is free on bond, was charged with domestic battery in the presence of a minor and faces six months to three years in prison if convicted. His next appearance is set for Jan. 11 in St. Joseph County Superior Court in South Bend.
 
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Rich Rod to Pitt would make things...interesting.

And this year was starting off so well. We had that whipping of Michigan in the bowl, and was looking good. Then Texas had to go an steal Manny Diaz, our DC. Thanks, Whorns! Our defense showed a major improvement under him this year, finishing 22nd in scoring defense, and in the top 25 in rushing defense.
 
Rich Rod to Pitt would make things...interesting.

And this year was starting off so well. We had that whipping of Michigan in the bowl, and was looking good. Then Texas had to go an steal Manny Diaz, our DC. Thanks, Whorns! Our defense showed a major improvement under him this year, finishing 22nd in scoring defense, and in the top 25 in rushing defense.

Fret not. Mullen found Diaz, he'll find someone good to replace him.
 
Rich Rod to Pitt would make things...interesting.

And this year was starting off so well. We had that whipping of Michigan in the bowl, and was looking good. Then Texas had to go an steal Manny Diaz, our DC. Thanks, Whorns! Our defense showed a major improvement under him this year, finishing 22nd in scoring defense, and in the top 25 in rushing defense.

Just saw this and was coming to post it
Too bad... hmmm, wait, we play y'all again next year... yay!! :D

It says something when your coordinators are being poached
The Dawgs don't have that issue unfortunately, we fire ours :(
 
Fret not. Mullen found Diaz, he'll find someone good to replace him.

The problem is it is an indication of a possible problem. While Mullen got a nice, fat raise, word going around is that the assistants got short-changed on their raises. If so, this is a big problem, since good assistants are just as important as the head coach. (See Florida in the past couple of years)

Just saw this and was coming to post it
Too bad... hmmm, wait, we play y'all again next year... yay!! :D

It says something when your coordinators are being poached
The Dawgs don't have that issue unfortunately, we fire ours :(

Well, this is new territory for us. MState has been known as a coaching graveyard forever. It's weird to have coaches good enough for other people to want them.

Word is also coming out that two of the top recruits that verbally committed to us are now wavering and will probably commit to UMiss. I swear, something must have awakened the spirits haunting our stadium. (There's a running joke among MSU fans that our football stadium was built on top of a Native burial ground, and their vengeful spirits have cursed us ever since.)
 
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