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I think you're probably right, but probably not for the reason you think.

Of course companies can release products in late November/early December and still catch most of the holiday shopping season. It's not like there's a magical drop-dead date of November 1 and nobody will buy a product for months if it isn't released by that date.

BUT ... thinking about it ... if iMac sales start ramping up at the beginning of November and Apple releases a refresh mid-November, then they will have a LOT of irate customers coming back to stores demanding exchanges, refunds, etc.

Looking at the MacRumors buyer's guide, it looks like Apple hasn't done a product refresh in November or December since at least 2005. I would guess probably for this reason.

I agree but then disagree. Most people would like to get their holiday shopping in early, as early as the beginning of November. Keep in mind, many do not solely have an Apple product or computer on their holiday wish list. This is why Apple would release their products before the big holiday rush, as they would have a better chance at securing the sales of many holiday buyers. Given the premium price tag of most Apple products, this makes the most financial sense, as it would be better for prospective buyers to stagger their purchases, instead of "breaking the bank," in one small period of time. Also, you must remember that economic times are rough, and people can't afford to spend a great deal of money all at once. This is why Apple must release their products in October, otherwise, they battle for hard-earned consumer dollars against every other item on an individual's wish list. Apple will lose the computing spotlight against the armada of Windows 8 devices arriving this Fall, if they don't beat them to the punch. This is exactly what they did with the iPhone 5; they released it ahead schedule and before their competitors' press events, to garner as much publicity for better sales, instead of once again, vying head to head with other competitive smartphone makers (e.g., Google, Nokia, Samsung, HTC, etc.). We shall see...October...or nothing.

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storage size 2tb hdd plus 256gb in an imac clear winner over macbook pro size of 768gb mind you size not speed

I don't know if I would consider storage size a clear advantage because remember, the 2TB HDD in the iMac is more prone to hard disk failure because of "moving parts." In addition, the SATA SSDs of the iMacs are inferior to the flash storage SSDs of the MBPs, which are known to have faster read and write times. I think if Apple presented more SSD options in the iMac at competitive price points, then we would "clearly" have an advantage. How I see as it currently stands, the present iMacs do not.
 
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I don't know if I would consider storage size a clear advantage because remember, the 2TB HDD in the iMac is more prone to hard disk failure because of "moving parts." In addition, the SATA SSDs of the iMacs are inferior to the flash storage SSDs of the MBPs, which are known to have faster read and write times. I think if Apple presented more SSD options in the iMac at competitive price points, then we would "clearly" have an advantage. How I see as it currently stands, the present iMacs do not.

Of course I want ssd as much as everyone else and I would switch 10tb of hdd for a 500gb of ssd. But moving parts isn't really that big of an issue for a desktop computer that stands still all the time. And actually ssd's from what I heard has a life span of around 3-5 years and data can start disappear. So I'm actually thinking that in a desktop computer regular hdd's have a less chance if failing than ssd drives. Could be wrong though but it's what I heard. Doesn't matter though I still want ssd - I wouldn't buy a computer today without it.
 
Please use proper grammar.

sorry english is my second language im not that good at it, also it doesnt help that the only thing i use to type is an ipad and the auto correction is terrible but its mostly my fault for not re reading things before i post them, i apologize.
 
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I really hope something happens soon. I am starting think about spending my money on a shiny new 24hd cintiq instead.

A week ago, an 85lb box with a 24hd Touch inside landed on my doorstep. It's digital art in it's most pure uncut form. No sacrifices were made on this giant digital drafting table, and it shows.

Multitouch is surprisingly useful…with compatible software. Only Painter and Sketchbook Pro thus far. Gestures are responsive and you can't make stray marks. You can set up the perfect angle for every line. I noticed at the end of the first day that I hadn't set a hotkey to undo… With the intuos, that just wouldn't be possible. I was hitting every mark.

Without software support, touch is not as useful. In Photoshop it's easy to make stray marks, and you can't zoom/rotate/pan all in one motion. I just turn it off when drawing and back on when doing other operations. It'll probably be the smoothest of them all once updated.

So I made this decision, and have zero regret, but my early 2011 MBP is still a beast. I was waiting to see an iMac redesign, but it was a pretty obvious choice. Still, 500+ days…something interesting is going down
 
Of course I want ssd as much as everyone else and I would switch 10tb of hdd for a 500gb of ssd. But moving parts isn't really that big of an issue for a desktop computer that stands still all the time. And actually ssd's from what I heard has a life span of around 3-5 years and data can start disappear. So I'm actually thinking that in a desktop computer regular hdd's have a less chance if failing than ssd drives. Could be wrong though but it's what I heard. Doesn't matter though I still want ssd - I wouldn't buy a computer today without it.

In theory SSDs should definitely be more reliable than hard drives, and if you "only" write a couple gigabytes of data to an SSD every day (the high end for most average users, I would guess) then the flash memory itself should last for 100 years before it starts to fail--and that's a fairly conservative estimate.

What we've been seeing with a lot of reports about drives failing within a few weeks or months is that the controller chips have been going through some growing pains. This is still a relatively new technology and there's not much collective experience making these chips that are reliable for millions of users in all possible circumstances. But I would say the problems were really bad maybe 1-2 years ago and I would expect any SSD on the market now to be rock solid for at least the next 10 (probably 20+ really) years. Definitely much longer than hard drives with spinning platters.

The whole issue is moot though given how cheap and easy it is to regularly back up your data. I have a couple of small external USB-powered (encrypted) hard drives that I can plug in and use to back up my entire computer in only a few minutes with an rsync script, so I actually really don't care if I have a drive failure.
 
Is there anyone out there that always says "knowing my luck ill buy a 2011 iMac and the next day they will release the new iMac!". If so will all of you go and buy the 2011 iMac! Please! It would obviously be much appreciated :)
 
Maybe the lack of rumours is a good thing. "We're going to double down on secrecy on products,". Maybe this week is our week!:cool: Or maybe next week is our week!?:apple:
 
Maybe the lack of rumours is a good thing. "We're going to double down on secrecy on products,". Maybe this week is our week!:cool: Or maybe next week is our week!?:apple:

We've gone from week to week every week now since before April needless to say I wish the imac were release this week so bad
 
What i meant was white as an edge border often distracts the eye instead of making it easy to focus on what's on the screen - which is what black does. If you go into a tv shop and look at those tvs with a bright edge you'll see what great difference it makes compared to the blacks. Personally I think iMac is a too expensive device to make a fashion statement in white. But your concept looks great though! :) and apple has made a white iMac before. So I guess they disagree with what I think. So it could happen :D

Taking your attention off from whatever you're doing on your computer.

Ohhh kay... thanks for the explanation. I personally never had any problem with bright bezels. I'm using a white Macbook right now and black LCD panel at work, also have a black TV and silver TV - never noticed any difference.

Anyway, if the keyboard and mouse are going to stay white, I'd want a white iMac. It kinda bothers me when they're not the same colour, it looks like they don't really belong to each other.
 
Ohhh kay... thanks for the explanation. I personally never had any problem with bright bezels. I'm using a white Macbook right now and black LCD panel at work, also have a black TV and silver TV - never noticed any difference.

Anyway, if the keyboard and mouse are going to stay white, I'd want a white iMac. It kinda bothers me when they're not the same colour, it looks like they don't really belong to each other.

Maybe it would be a good thing with both then :D then I can buy the black one and you the white. It's still great mockups u made.
 
Have you seen how much of the iP5 and iPad mini have leaked? Doubling down on secrecy is just Cook bs
like an organisation like Apple can pull that off in a short period of time? It's a process that will take years and i am sure they are going to get there.
 
Turn to the Dark side?

Thinking of buying this PC for my music production(Gassp): -

Intel Core i7 Six core Processor 3930K (3.2GHz) 12MB Cache

Asus P9X79 Motherboard

32GB Samsung Dual DDR3 1333Mhz Ram

1GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GT 640 Graphics card

1st HD:480gb Intel 520 Series SSD

2nd HD 1TB Western digital

Liquid cooled with IIYAMA 27 inch LED Widscreen gaming monitor for £2,152

OR

Imac 2011 Fully specced £2,650

Waiting for this Imac is making less sense for me. What do you guys think am I loco??
 
sorry english is my second language im not that good at it, also it doesnt help that the only thing i use to type is an ipad and the auto correction is terrible but its mostly my fault for not re reading things before i post them, i apologize.

Sorry, I didn't know English wasn't your first language :eek: .
 
You know that monitor is just a cheap panel at 1920x1080 resolution right?

If you want something comparable to the iMac the best value you are going to find in the UK is from Hazro http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-013-HO

Yeh I guess you get what you pay for. I'll bear this monitor in mind if I do go for a pc. I was even thinking a Dell 30 inch ultra sharp but its £450 more than this Hazro for only 3 inches more monitor space

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Was that specced using Apples 16 gb memory option?
It's much cheaper to use crucial ram :)

Yeh I know you could save a few quid on Ram but that 2011 mac need more than a bit of ram to meet that Pc in terms of raw power and even if I got the crucial ram still would only be 2500.

Ive been looking at this today

http://www.chillblast.com/Chillblast-Artiste-Mozart.html

I rekon when you switch it on it would make a small tear in the universe somewhere. Its that powerful!!

and this one is insanity

http://www.chillblast.com/Chillblast-Fusion-Leviathan.html
 
Yeh I guess you get what you pay for. I'll bear this monitor in mind if I do go for a pc. I was even thinking a Dell 30 inch ultra sharp but its £450 more than this Hazro for only 3 inches more monitor space

The user experience between a 27" and 30" with 2560 pixel widths isn't a big deal. With the low prices this year of 27" panels they are a much better choice.
 
Yep, Chillblast build some impressive machines. According to reviews on pcpro and other online magazines, there customer service is meant to be impressive when there is a fault. The PC equivalent to Apple perhaps?[/QUOTE]


If only I didn't have to find all the VST's and programs im using again. Also not sure how I would transfer all my files and samples between the two Operating systems. ughh!
 
Ive been looking at this tod
http://www.chillblast.com/Chillblast-Artiste-Mozart.html

I rekon when you switch it on it would make a small tear in the universe somewhere. Its that powerful!!

and this one is insanity

http://www.chillblast.com/Chillblast-Fusion-Leviathan.html



Yep, Chillblast build some impressive machines. According to reviews on pcpro and other online magazines, there customer service is meant to be impressive when there is a fault. The PC equivalent to Apple perhaps?[/QUOTE]

OMG :eek::eek: £10,000
 
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