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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign
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I don't think he cares about where it's sourced from. Your argument seems poor in my opinion. Maybe if his wireless router was about to have its ethernet port removed....
It's as poor as someone saying to me they don't like eggs, and me saying YOU DO, you like chicken and that comes from an egg.
No it's perfectly valid. He calls eggs outdated and at the same time he lickes chicken. But there is no chicken without an egg.
Also it's not about what he has at home. Many people use MacBook Pro for work and without ethernet it's not suitable for work.
I pretty much never use wireless (very rarely) and I could use a USB adapter. But I understand its importance for many people and I don't call for Apple to remove wireless because I personally don't use it often. And I don't call it outdated.
Very selfish.
Why remove ethernet port? Just for the sake of removing? Don't tell me of thickness, the MacBook Pro already has ideal thickness and to strive for the thinniest you can get by sacrificing essentials is stupid. Remember that perfect is the enemy of good.
I just can't understand why people support this move from Apple.
1) Wireless is unreliable
2) Wireless is unstable
3) Wireless is EASILY blocked
4) Wireless is slow
5) Wireless is more complex resulting in more potential incompatibilities between stations and clients.
6) Wireless is more difficult to deploy and maintain
7) Wireless is short range and its speed is reduced dramatically when farther from the station.
The only good in wireless is mobility around the station. This is good for coffee shops but not for office and not for production environment where you don't really need it.
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who the ****** cares about ethernet in 2012....if you want ethernet buy a ********ng windows based notebook....
I have a question, which is like many I use Windows on my Mac, so how am I suppose to install my Windows 7 without a DVD drive? Can you download it? And if you can what size USB stick would you need?
You can make bootable flash drive and install windows with it. You will need about 4gb flash drive, ideal would be 8gb since 4 gb in many times actually are 3,4-3,6gb.
So you would need to make a flash drive using the DVD rom then using your existing Mac?
There's a difference between "I'm upset about this feature being missing" and "the laptop sucks now". The former is more reasonable, the latter is just asinine. Sadly, many people are screaming the latter. The idea that the removal of the port is somehow amounts to Apple abandoning a market, or that its no longer worth the money is what is bothering me so much. For example, I was upset that when I bought the iPhone 4s, I couldn't switch off 3g. I frequently would, in order to save battery life when I knew I wasn't going to be using my phone much(football games is an example). However, I gained a lot of other benefits so it's a loss I'm willing to take. Basically, I feel the apocalyptic talk of the removal of ethernet is outrageous and, frankly, childish.
What current one? This isn't even a "problem" yet. If the port is removed, use a USB 3.0 adapter.
I'll admit that the ODD is in more of an immediate obsolescence. But I don't see ethernet very far behind. Without thunderbolt and USB 3.0, I would probably agree with you, but as the two technologies are more than capable of providing a quick, easy solution I don't see a reason to object to its removal. And also I AM hoping they throw in 802.11ac, because that will make the move all the more justified. My next statement isn't aimed at you because, as I implied earlier, you're not really whining but questioning the removal.
IF YOU'RE THAT UPSET ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF ETHERNET. DON'T BUY ONE.
Remember, MacBook Airs, Windows Ultrabooks and netbooks all ship without DVD drives.
Bootcamp assistant makes it easy. As long as you have an ISO file (or a DVD on a remote drive, or an attached USB DVD drive) you can install Windows.
Yes, it's completely backwards compatible (and most USB 3.0 devices I've seen will run on USB 2 as well, but with lower transfer speeds)
Oh thats good now i dont have to worry about transfering data onto usbs for school
Oddly enough, either in this thread or others, there were those arguing they should go that route and force people to buy external thunderbolt GPUs. Ugh.
Cool so you can get around it and download iso's. Just curious really, I wasn't planning on replacing my 2010 model but the rumours are getting me excited haha.
I have a 2010 model as well. If you do decide to get the new model coming out, it'll be a substantial upgrade.
I don't think Apple will remove it, it is making some headway into the work environment and knows in that market it will be a hostile move to remove ethernet. These are all still rumours at the end of the day and whilst I can believe the DVD drive being dropped, removing ethernet isn't going to save much space, it could be placed at the back of the side and the design could then taper slightly.
If Apple do remove it then they better sell a USB 3 to Ethernet adapter or include one in the box as standard.
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking but I need the new iPhone more haha, but I may take the plunge, will have to do some serious saving first though! But what has got me excited are the leaked geek bench marks as they show the MB Pro pretty much matching the iMacs score! I keep thinking you get more bang for your buck with an iMac but the MB Pro gives awesome power and is a laptop.
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I actually don't know how exactly to make it with OS X, since I usually use Windows, but in windows you have to format it, open cmd.exe and time commands
My suspicion is that most people don't use their Macbook Pros in places without wireless. It's likely that ethernet usage is increasingly rare, in the same way that optical disk drive usage is now minimal. In offices, you can use the ethernet dongle, which, I grant you, isn't ideal for office users, but it will only be a small annoyance. Whether Apple keeps the ethernet port shouldn't be too troublesome if you have the adapter.
So now, if I'm traveling, i'll need an adapter for basically everything that I would plug into my MBP (ethernet, external display, my Firewire HD, and my firewire CF reader). Dongle-tastic.
And FWIW, I'm part of a VERY large population of enterprise users who can't use wireless for security reasons, and that includes other offices I travel to.