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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign
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I'm hoping that isn't the case, but at the very least, all those dongles will still fit into a laptop bag. Still incredibly annoying, though.
Stop being a dumb! Just ****ing get yourself a Mac Pro and take with you in your trips. I guarantee you wont need any adapter and will have plenty of usbs ports for your needs!
Maybe bc those same people dont use a wired connection? My laptop is wireless 95% of the time. I cant think of an instance when I actually need a wired connection and I shuttle it between home, school and work. When I travel to friends or family, they all have Wifi. It isnt slow at all and is very stable. Makes thing a lot more portable and simpler without needing to carry cables around and having them stick out to connect to a router. Besides if one needs it, there are USB adapters for that. The option is still there to use ethernet
You should get your work to start using Apple Cinema displays so that you can just use thunderbolt. Then buy a USB 3.0 HD since it's faster anyway. Invest in a USB 3.0 CF reader too. See? 2 dongles gone.(This post is half joking. Don't blow up. But seriously, it's not like they are bringing this back once they remove it. You were hopefully planning to upgrade some of these accessories anyway.)
I would have never guessed that the removal of the ethernet port would create such controversy. 
For me, it doesn't matter if they remove that port but in all fairness, I can see how this means a lot to some people.
Looks like form over limited function is going to win here. And by 'limited function', I mean that only some people need the port... not everyone.
I will say that I hope they upgrade to the ac draft. n draft is good enough for my current needs but updating to ac will add some more life to the MBP.
For me, it doesn't matter if they remove that port but in all fairness, I can see how this means a lot to some people.
Looks like form over limited function is going to win here. And by 'limited function', I mean that only some people need the port... not everyone.
I will say that I hope they upgrade to the ac draft. n draft is good enough for my current needs but updating to ac will add some more life to the MBP.
Agreed. There's a lot of hyperbole in both directions. The sane debate lies somewhere in the middle.
Assuming they make one. The "current one" is the USB 2.0 version that they made for Macbook Airs, which a few people (not you) have suggested as a "fix". It's not for anything even slightly taxing.
Fair enough.
Another reason for Apple not dropping the ethernet is the fact that if you measure the port, it's 1 CM in height, a drive like the 512GB OCZ Vertex 4 stands 9.3mm tall. So if Apple are going to drop the ethernet port for a thinner case, then what space will that leave for a standard 2.5" drive?
And remember this is Apple, who changed to BLADE SSD for the Air. Nothing to say they won't ditch support for the standard 2.5" format and switch to blade only in the name of design.
And remember this is Apple, who changed to BLADE SSD for the Air. Nothing to say they won't ditch support for the standard 2.5" format and switch to blade only in the name of design.
http://semiaccurate.com/2012/05/17/is-amds-trinity-much-better-than-it-appears/
AMD Trinity, and comparison with ivy bridge. The article is a bit cryptic, and jumps between Ivy and Sandy Bridge on the Intel side and A10 and A8 (Trinity and the older Llano) on the AMD side. Main message:
Intels CPU performance is much faster, but not so much if you go to lower power CPUs (35W TDP quad cores e.g.). On the other hand the Ivy Bridge integrated GPU is still behind the previous generation AMD integrated GPU, and the new one is miles ahead. AMD seems to do better in performance/Watt.
My 2 cent:
In a world where the CPU is rarely needed at full power (most of us don't encode videos 24/7), the much better iGPU would make the AMD chip a better choice for models without discrete GPU. You get quad core performance probably at the level of a i7 sandy bridge and graphics performance about 10% below the 6750M in the current MBPs, without the heat and power consumption of a discrete GPU.
Could Apple surprise us here?
AMD Trinity, and comparison with ivy bridge. The article is a bit cryptic, and jumps between Ivy and Sandy Bridge on the Intel side and A10 and A8 (Trinity and the older Llano) on the AMD side. Main message:
Intels CPU performance is much faster, but not so much if you go to lower power CPUs (35W TDP quad cores e.g.). On the other hand the Ivy Bridge integrated GPU is still behind the previous generation AMD integrated GPU, and the new one is miles ahead. AMD seems to do better in performance/Watt.
My 2 cent:
In a world where the CPU is rarely needed at full power (most of us don't encode videos 24/7), the much better iGPU would make the AMD chip a better choice for models without discrete GPU. You get quad core performance probably at the level of a i7 sandy bridge and graphics performance about 10% below the 6750M in the current MBPs, without the heat and power consumption of a discrete GPU.
Could Apple surprise us here?
It's unlikely, but that's why it would be a surprise, right?
I would love for Apple to use AMD's offerings as they're far more efficient in terms of graphics power and heat. If I had to put money down, I'd also say they're probably less expensive, too.
Hi guys, i'm writing from Italy
I'm following this thread from many days, so i just decided to register myself to link you this: http://9to5mac.com/2012/05/17/new-macbook-pros-will-get-samsungs-830-series-ssd-too/
New MBP will get Samsung SSD
See you around
I'm following this thread from many days, so i just decided to register myself to link you this: http://9to5mac.com/2012/05/17/new-macbook-pros-will-get-samsungs-830-series-ssd-too/
New MBP will get Samsung SSD
See you around
None of the people complaining about the possible lack of an ethernet port in the new MPB have any way of changing the revision. Trying to convince other people that it is necessary to keep it who are also in no way going to impact whether it is removed or not is pointless as well. Is it possible that some constructive discussion can take place rather than this constant bickering about details that are completely out of your control? If you're so turned off by the ethernet port being removed in this model, the 2011 will still be available with a substantial discount. There are also many other laptops that retain the ethernet port in their 2012 model. If for any reason none of those options suffice and you just have to have the Ivy Bridge / Retina / Thinner 2012 MBP then accepting the fact it has no ethernet port comes with the territory.
Hi guys, i'm writing from Italy
I'm following this thread from many days, so i just decided to register myself to link you this: http://9to5mac.com/2012/05/17/new-macbook-pros-will-get-samsungs-830-series-ssd-too/
New MBP will get Samsung SSD
See you around
Oh no, please no blades.
Edit: Correction: No blades without also including a standard 2.5 slot.
None of the people complaining about the possible lack of an ethernet port in the new MPB have any way of changing the revision. Trying to convince other people that it is necessary to keep it who are also in no way going to impact whether it is removed or not is pointless as well. Is it possible that some constructive discussion can take place rather than this constant bickering about details that are completely out of your control? If you're so turned off by the ethernet port being removed in this model, the 2011 will still be available with a substantial discount. There are also many other laptops that retain the ethernet port in their 2012 model. If for any reason none of those options suffice and you just have to have the Ivy Bridge / Retina / Thinner 2012 MBP then accepting the fact it has no ethernet port comes with the territory.
We can all say what ever we want on the topic as until the computer is launched, EVERYTHING is just a rumour! None of what has been said in the news is fact.
Hi guys, i'm writing from Italy
I'm following this thread from many days, so i just decided to register myself to link you this: http://9to5mac.com/2012/05/17/new-macbook-pros-will-get-samsungs-830-series-ssd-too/
New MBP will get Samsung SSD
See you around
I read that, and the title is very misleading, they have no proof other then rumours that some of the new Macs have been seen with the Samsung drives! So take it with a pinch of salt for now, unfortunately.
I swear though, to read some of the posts here I almost wish Apple wasn't just removing the port, but removing all ability to connect to Ethernet, whether through TB or USB, to the extent that the computer would blow up and kill everyone within a 4-mile radius if anyone so much as *thought* about connecting it to Ethernet!
Then the reaction would be justified.
Almost.
Apple currently charges you $100 for a 128GB, $500 for a 256GB and $1100 for a 512GB SSD drives, so i think they can afford to offer the Samsungs
... if they do. up buddy.You know we will all bicker on here until the product is launched, then bicker some more haha!
No matter what I say about the ethernet port, I still feel more sorry for the Mac Pro brigade.
Just like all those Thunderbolt products we heard would flood the market?
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Constructive discussion on a rumor site? What exactly is being made here? It's all speculation!
Development and manufacturing cost is incredibly less and market is larger - there are already Ultrabooks out there that lack Ethernet ports and there will be more of them each month.
And in the meantime there are several USB 2 gigabit adapters out there, cheaper than Apple's 10/100 adapter, that while they can't do full gigabit are still 2-3 times faster.
I fully agree with birthmark. It's one thing to discuss rumors, e.g. in the form of "I've heard the new MBP will have feature A" and response "that would be good/bad or I would like/not like it because..."
However what tends to happen are page long arguments over whether or not one needs Ethernet, or HDD/SSD, or ODD, which don't really contribute much. Then add that each of those discussions has happened 20 pages ago, and 40 pages ago, and 80 pages ago...