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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign

I think everyone is forgetting one thing about making the MBP thinner...

It's already one of the thinnest laptops around (not including netbooks and ultrabooks) it doesn't need to be any thinner, maybe just make the screen thinner and reduce the curvature or the corners
 
6-0 Prolene said:
I was planning to eventually, but there's nothing "Pro" about forced upgrading. Besides, TB hard drives are still stupid expensive, and a TB CF reader still doesn't exist, despite the fact that pro and prosumer photographers would be all over it.
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Forced upgrading is really the only way a company can reasonably make changes. When Apple said no more floppy drives, you were forced to upgrade. It's the only way to move forward. Unfortunately, upgrading is pretty expensive at first, but that's the price of being an early adopter.

There is a lack of thunderbolt accessories and adapters. When you can find them, they are expensive. I agree with you there. I think it's going to change soon with all these PCs having thunderbolt, but if the new Pro has USB 3.0 i think it'll be a more immediate solution.

I understand where you're coming from, but how long have you known about light peak/thunderbolt? How about USB 3.0? Years. You knew then that these technologies would make firewire obsolete. I think we all knew that we were in for an expensive replacement process.
 
cmChimera said:
Forced upgrading is really the only way a company can reasonably make changes. When Apple said no more floppy drives, you were forced to upgrade. It's the only way to move forward. Unfortunately, upgrading is pretty expensive at first, but that's the price of being an early adopter.

There is a lack of thunderbolt accessories and adapters. When you can find them, they are expensive. I agree with you there. I think it's going to change soon with all these PCs having thunderbolt, but if the new Pro has USB 3.0 i think it'll be a more immediate solution.

I understand where you're coming from, but how long have you known about light peak/thunderbolt? How about USB 3.0? Years. You knew then that these technologies would make firewire obsolete. I think we all knew that we were in for an expensive replacement process.
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Yeah, I get that. Fortunately I can throw my HDs into a new enclosure and find a CF reader if/when it ever shows up for TB. Other professionals, though, have spent thousands, if not tens of thousands, on FW devices, and I'm glad I'm not one of them.
 
It has been very difficult to me!

I've given my late 2011 15 MacBook pro to my sister as a gift, and now i feel abandoned by Apple!

Ever since I've been using my wife's 11 MacBook Air, but i miss so much the pro's screen!

I really need the new retina pro! I cant stop searching the web for rumors and leaked parts, it has been like an obsession... Lost my job and my wife wants to leave me!

Damn! I wish i had a time machine (a real one, not the osx's one) to forward the time and get my new pro!
 
Come on apple do it... My dell is in the fritz and I'm looking at sager, leveno and Msi websites... Itching trigger finger
 
Suno said:
I'm concerned about how little storage the SSD will provide. The price on SSD's have decreased tremendously in the past few years, but they're still many times more expensive than traditional HDD's and if Apple intends to equip every new MBP's with SSD's, how little are they going to provide?

I'm not a harddrive hog by any means, but at the very least I'd like a modest 200GB or so of storage, instead of the probable 128 GB or less. And don't tell me 200GB makes me a hog, if you don't use anywhere near that much than grats, but most of us do on average, many who uses even more.
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The MBP probably will have hybrid storage is my guess. A small SSD paired with a HD. Standard. They could go all SSD but I doubt it. You never know though.
 
RodPinto said:
It has been very difficult to me!

I've given my late 2011 15 MacBook pro to my sister as a gift, and now i feel abandoned by Apple!

Ever since I've been using my wife's 11 MacBook Air, but i miss so much the pro's screen!

I really need the new retina pro! I cant stop searching the web for rumors and leaked parts, it has been like an obsession... Lost my job and my wife wants to leave me!

Damn! I wish i had a time machine (a real one, not the osx's one) to forward the time and get my new pro!
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your wife wants to leave you because you lost your job, or just wants to leave the whole god damn thing?
 
cmChimera said:
I understand where you're coming from, but how long have you known about light peak/thunderbolt? How about USB 3.0? Years. You knew then that these technologies would make firewire obsolete. I think we all knew that we were in for an expensive replacement process.
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I agree, and I think it makes no sense that Apple doesn't make Thunderbolt adapters. FireWire will die soon because of Thunderbolt and it's perfectly fine for me, a regular user of FireWire myself. I'd just buy an Apple Thunderbolt-FireWire adapter, meaning Apple would profit from me more by selling me both a new MacBook Pro and this adapter.

But that's not what's happening. There's actually no way to go from Thunderbolt to FireWire, meaning not only I can't buy this adapter but I can't even buy a new Mac laptop without losing FireWire (which I can't do). So by not releasing such an adapter, Apple makes sure I can't buy a new Mac laptop again, which I would love to.

Apple should release plenty of Thunderbolt adapters. FireWire, Ethernet, CF, ExpressCard, eSata... name them. Why would they not? Wanting to reduce the size and weight of the MBP is understandable, but not releasing adapters for a new standard they try to move forward is not. People who depend on the older standards I listed may be tempted to upgrade to a new Mac laptop, even if they didn't mind buying a few dongles (like I do), but we simply can't because those dongles simply don't exist, and I think that's what makes the removal of older ports ridiculous, not the fact that they remove them itself.

Doing something as ambitious as putting not one but two Thunderbolt ports on a machine that loses all its older ports (except USB 2.0 which remains backward compatible) would make sense only if adapters were available, considering the lack of mainstream-oriented Thunderbolt devices that don't cost 1k$

When they introduced a new video standard (mini DisplayPort) in 2008, they released mini DisplayPort adapters for every possible monitor type. Why can't they do the same? It makes their laptops more compatible so more users can buy them and they actually profit from those overpriced dongles.
 
Cicatrix said:
your wife wants to leave you because you lost your job, or just wants to leave the whole god damn thing?
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I lost my job because of this obsession. I don't know If she wants To leave me because of the loss of my job or because of my love for the new MacBook pro.

But i have To admit that If Apple wasn't taking so long To release the new pros, none of this would be happening!
 
RodPinto said:
I lost my job because of this obsession. I don't know If she wants To leave me because of the loss of my job or because of my love for the new MacBook pro.

But i have To admit that If Apple wasn't taking so long To release the new pros, none of this would be happening!
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You lost your job??? 😕
 
RodPinto said:
I lost my job because of this obsession. I don't know If she wants To leave me because of the loss of my job or because of my love for the new MacBook pro.

But i have To admit that If Apple wasn't taking so long To release the new pros, none of this would be happening!
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Do the American thing and sue.
 
Free Ale said:
Wow! Quite an interesting read! So much power in an 11.6".
Hopefully we can see something even more powerful with the new MacBooks!
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And if it can fit in an 11.6" form factor, I definitely think Apple could make it work in a 13.3" form factor (and Apple's 13" notebooks are larger footprint than most).
 
pgiguere1 said:
I agree, and I think it makes no sense that Apple doesn't make Thunderbolt adapters. FireWire will die soon because of Thunderbolt and it's perfectly fine for me, a regular user of FireWire myself. I'd just buy an Apple Thunderbolt-FireWire adapter, meaning Apple would profit from me more by selling me both a new MacBook Pro and this adapter.

But that's not what's happening. There's actually no way to go from Thunderbolt to FireWire, meaning not only I can't buy this adapter but I can't even buy a new Mac laptop without losing FireWire (which I can't do). So by not releasing such an adapter, Apple makes sure I can't buy a new Mac laptop again, which I would love to.

Apple should release plenty of Thunderbolt adapters. FireWire, Ethernet, CF, ExpressCard, eSata... name them. Why would they not? Wanting to reduce the size and weight of the MBP is understandable, but not releasing adapters for a new standard they try to move forward is not. People who depend on the older standards I listed may be tempted to upgrade to a new Mac laptop, even if they didn't mind buying a few dongles (like I do), but we simply can't because those dongles simply don't exist, and I think that's what makes the removal of older ports ridiculous, not the fact that they remove them itself.

Doing something as ambitious as putting not one but two Thunderbolt ports on a machine that loses all its older ports (except USB 2.0 which remains backward compatible) would make sense only if adapters were available, considering the lack of mainstream-oriented Thunderbolt devices that don't cost 1k$

When they introduced a new video standard (mini DisplayPort) in 2008, they released mini DisplayPort adapters for every possible monitor type. Why can't they do the same? It makes their laptops more compatible so more users can buy them and they actually profit from those overpriced dongles.
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It's awful. I've read articles saying that both ihv's and Intel have been surprised by how many problems they've had this first year designing thunderbolt peripherals. And of course the controller chips that Intel has been selling are really expensive.

I don't think any of this has gone as Apple and Intel planned. It's crazy to be paying $200+ for a thunderbolt to eSATA adapter, or $1000 for a fixed-size TB RAID - even if they are all well reviewed.
 
Stetrain said:
And if it can fit in an 11.6" form factor, I definitely think Apple could make it work in a 13.3" form factor (and Apple's 13" notebooks are larger footprint than most).
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I think they'd struggle making it thinner if they did
 

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RodPinto said:
It has been very difficult to me!

I've given my late 2011 15 MacBook pro to my sister as a gift, and now i feel abandoned by Apple!

Ever since I've been using my wife's 11 MacBook Air, but i miss so much the pro's screen!

I really need the new retina pro! I cant stop searching the web for rumors and leaked parts, it has been like an obsession... Lost my job and my wife wants to leave me!

Damn! I wish i had a time machine (a real one, not the osx's one) to forward the time and get my new pro!
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It's funny because when I started reading your last sentence I thought it would read something like "Damn! I wish i had a time machine (a real one, not the osx's one) to go back and not be so obsessed so I could have kept my job."

Turns out you really are obsessed. 😛

I must say I'm intrigued by your story. How exactly did your MacBook Pro obsession lead you to lose your job?
 
I really hope 1440x900 isn't the only resolution being pixel doubled on the 15". I don't really want to have to buy a 17"
 
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pgiguere1 said:
It's funny because when I started reading your last sentence I thought it would read something like "Damn! I wish i had a time machine (a real one, not the osx's one) to go back and not be so obsessed so I could have kept my job."

Turns out you really are obsessed. 😛

I must say I'm intrigued by your story. How exactly did your MacBook Pro obsession lead you to lose your job?
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ivanpk said:
You lost your job??? 😕
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My boss received a relatory that stated that in the previous 15 days, i spent almost 2/3 of my work time surfing the web, browsing pages only to find out about the new MacBook pro 🙁
 
My thoughts on the Macbook Pro's.

Hello everyone! First post here. Really excited to join and get my first Macbook Pro.

So into the details, I will break down what I think will be the processors in the Macbook Pro's. I will also state why I believe that. So, with out further delays, let's get started.

So with the 13" MBP, I believe the base model will be a high end Duo-Core i5. Think 2.7/2.8 as the BASE. Then as you get the upgrades, The new i7 QM comes in. I think the end model will be capped at 2.1/2.2 i7 QM. The reason for this being, is that the TDP is still the same; 35 watts. Now I know some people have been saying, "But it will be too hot!" Apple has already planned for this, and make a better heatsink in the new redesign for the MBP. I do think there will be a resign, but it will be slight, and look almost the same.

Now for the 15" MBP, I believe it will start at the medium range Quad-Core i5. Think 2.4/2.5 Ghz as the BASE. You can upgrade it all the wait up to the high end i7 Quad-Core. Think 2.7/2.8 Ghz. Again, these will also come with video cards, and these laptops will be absolute beasts. There will be only a few laptops on the market that will be able to compare to the 15". I think the main reason for this change, is because Apple wants their 15" MBP's to look actually more powerful on paper, and in use. Apple wants to start getting some into the gaming market for laptops (since they are losing a number of gamers to the windows market, because of the cost-top-performance ratio) and they want their professionals to also have access to a powerful laptop.

Now for the 17", it will stay around, it will start low to medium range of the i7 QM and go up to high end i7 QM. The 17" will stay around because Apple does not have a reason to get rid of it. It doesn't sell the best, but it will makes them a considerable amount of money. So it will stay.

In terms of RAM, I think the standard will still be 4 starting, and of course upgrading to 8 GB.

The video cards, I have no idea. I've heard NVIDIA being used in the new ones, and I would love it. Better driver support.


That's all for now folks. Leave me what you think below! I curious to see!:apple:
 
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