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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign
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Now for the 17", it will stay around, it will start low to medium range of the i7 QM and go up to high end i7 QM. The 17" will stay around because Apple does not have a reason to get rid of it. It doesn't sell the best, but it will makes them a considerable amount of money. So it will stay.
That's all for now folks. Leave me what you think below! I curious to see!
Interesting thought on the 17". I agree just because it is not their best seller does not mean it does not make them a good profit. I have read that their high end models have much higher profit margin than their base models. I would like to see them keep the 17"
I think they'd struggle making it thinner if they did
I take your overly thick laptop w/ ethernet and raise you a 4 year old ultra thin w/ ethernet.
The wait will be worse for me!
You guys think you have it bad, I have to wait even longer... I'm using a combination of cash and Bill-Me-Later... I just hope the price stays the same or close if the cheaper 13 inch model is even an option. I'm going to be cutting it so close I have to wait until some third party vender that takes BML gets it in stock to save money from not paying the tax. Also since I don't have a high credit limit on BML and they don't allow multiple payment methods with BML it gets crazier!! I will have to buy gift cards from the site (I guess my best bet will be B&H?), wait on them to come in, then combine those with my debit card to buy the new MB.
You guys think you have it bad, I have to wait even longer... I'm using a combination of cash and Bill-Me-Later... I just hope the price stays the same or close if the cheaper 13 inch model is even an option. I'm going to be cutting it so close I have to wait until some third party vender that takes BML gets it in stock to save money from not paying the tax. Also since I don't have a high credit limit on BML and they don't allow multiple payment methods with BML it gets crazier!! I will have to buy gift cards from the site (I guess my best bet will be B&H?), wait on them to come in, then combine those with my debit card to buy the new MB.
You guys think you have it bad, I have to wait even longer... I'm using a combination of cash and Bill-Me-Later... I just hope the price stays the same or close if the cheaper 13 inch model is even an option. I'm going to be cutting it so close I have to wait until some third party vender that takes BML gets it in stock to save money from not paying the tax. Also since I don't have a high credit limit on BML and they don't allow multiple payment methods with BML it gets crazier!! I will have to buy gift cards from the site (I guess my best bet will be B&H?), wait on them to come in, then combine those with my debit card to buy the new MB.
This does not seem to be the smartest decision in choosing a computer to work with.
We were talking about that 11 inch notebook having a quad core 45W core i7, I was just showing that the reason it can have one of them is that it is thick.
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Do you think it will stay around without a redesign? That's what I'm thinking, they will keep the 17" on sale exactly as it is today, maybe with upgraded specs.
You guys think you have it bad, I have to wait even longer... I'm using a combination of cash and Bill-Me-Later... I just hope the price stays the same or close if the cheaper 13 inch model is even an option. I'm going to be cutting it so close I have to wait until some third party vender that takes BML gets it in stock to save money from not paying the tax. Also since I don't have a high credit limit on BML and they don't allow multiple payment methods with BML it gets crazier!! I will have to buy gift cards from the site (I guess my best bet will be B&H?), wait on them to come in, then combine those with my debit card to buy the new MB.
Sounds like buying a luxury laptop should be the least of your worries.
So if a new MBP or MBA is announced in June, when do you think it will actually become available?
Within a week of announcement. They usually don't announce updates to existing products more than a week or two in advance.
Ok, I think everybody needs to calm down. It's like the ODD argument from a couple months ago. There's been so much bickering going on, it has gotten to the point where it's like each camp (ethernet supporters and ethernet removal supporters) is talking to a brick wall, with no CONSTRUCTIVE feedback about the other's argument.
And keep in mind, at this point Apple has made its decision on whether it's going to keep it or not and these new laptops are being produced as we…errr…type (I hope
All that being said, however,, I FIRMLY believe that it is important to acknowledge that some people still require the ethernet port at this time and that several people here have provided some good reasoning and examples of when it is still required (such as security reasons or when USB 2 transfer speeds are insuffient for large files). When Person A says that those points by Person B about keeping ethernet are 'stupid', it only undermines Person A's argument since many times, Person B's points do have some merit to them. As a result, Person A appears both stubborn and incapable of identifying a good point so people are going to be less inclined to see his or her point too and the cycle goes on and on. The same goes for points made by people who want ethernet removed that are bashed by those in favor of keeping it.
Additionally, I’d like to point out that while many are telling those who need ethernet that they can use a USB 3 or a thunderbolt adapter if the ethernet port is removed, the fact is that right now those products are not available and we neither know when they will be produced nor the cost of them, which could be a pain if a company will require many of these adapters.
Just put yourself in the shoes of someone who requires Ethernet and think about how he or she may be stressing over the fact that productivity may slow down because transferring large files for that company will now take 2-3 times as long (I'm just ballparking that rate so feel free to correct me
I'm not someone who requires ethernet and I rarely use it since my college is fortunate enough to have a wireless campus but I can try to imagine how it would feel if I did require an ethernet connection for work and I heard this rumor which seems likely to come true. The number of people in this type of situation is obviously up for debate but there are some right here that are proof that some people do so it’s important to be respectful to them, as they are probably stressing out like I described earlier, and not tell them things like “Oh well, sucks to suck” or “You’re the minority so nobody cares” or something along those lines. People posting on these forums are still real people lol, and feeling like you and your business are potentially going to hit a bump in productivity because a company that you’ve supported and depend upon is no longer fully supporting your needs can’t feel too good, especially during an economic time like this.
The way I see it, yelling and being disrespectful to someone else on these forums is not going to change that other person's opinion on the matter and instead makes other members less inclined to side with the one yelling. I cannot recall one situation in which two people yelling their views at each other and calling the other's point as 'stupid' or 'idiotic' has resulted in one of them saying, "You know what? You're right, that point I made was dumb and I now agree with your argument"; at least not sarcastically lol. Instead, the argument becomes more heated, less rational, and less likely that either person will concede that the other person is making a good case for their view. When arguments become that heated, they become more based on emotions rather than on rational thinking and as a result, the argument doesn't get either side anywhere, it just makes everyone angry.
Instead, if you're responding to someone's post, you should first say why or why not their point is valid, in a respectful manner, and then proceed to explain why your point carries more weight than that person's point. If you two can see that the other person's concerns and views are legitimate but you two still can’t agree over which point carries more weight based on the presented arguments, that's ok; people have different values. It's more important that all these views are clearly stated and debated in a healthy manner and who knows, they could convince and persuade others who are just reading the forum.
Finally, if Apple does in fact remove the ethernet port, it's better for someone to send feedback to Apple (or email Tim Cook directly - he occasionally responds) expressing his or her disapproval of Apple’s decision once you see and use the new product (obviously after the release lol, it'd be premature to send that now based on a rumor, but then again, nothing is stopping you either) rather than passionately defending the ethernet port to some random person on this forum who, even if he or she does become convinced to keep it, has no control over Apple's decisions anyway.
People can obviously choose to ignore this post or even down vote it, partially for how long it is
Wow, what a post! And I agree with you.
The fact is, some people do require an Ethernet port and some don't. I cannot tell you the exact numbers - I have not conducted a research on this respect and I'm not willing to. But what I see is that more and more people are adopting laptops instead of desktops and that these people tend to use wireless connections instead of wired ones. Ethernet ports are being far less used than before. Still, some people do need them and some of them will always need them.
But Apple makes its own decisions and - I guess - we are powerless to have any influence on that. Apple's intention is not to please everyone, there is not everything to everybody. Apple has removed features from its products before - my iPod nano does not have video capabilities like the previous version had, for instance. Apple may remove the Ethernet port to comply with its politics of being products which are lighter, less complex and better designed. If removing the Ethernet port helps Apple make a thinner laptop which will amaze everybody in the press and in the society as a whole, they may well do it, even if it will not work for everybody...
It will likely be available on the day it's announced. I checked out previous redesign announcements and the product is always available on that day.
Yes, it will be available on the day of announcement. It doesn't make sense for Apple to keep the old version in stores when the new one is announced. Why would someone would buy a MacBook Pro which he knows is going to be replaced in a couple of days by a brand-new product? People are already waiting for buying the new MacBook Pro now, before Apple making any announcement and while we have only rumors...
Good chance they'll be available that day. They usually ship them to stores before the announcement and don't let the boxes to be opened until afterwards.
Edit: this was for the last redesign (2008)
"The new MacBook is currently shipping in 1-3 business days from the online store and should be available in retail stores tomorrow."
https://www.macrumors.com/2008/10/14/apple-announces-new-aluminum-macbooks/
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In recent history, the products (Macbooks) have been available the day they are announced or at most one week after. I anticipate we will see the new Macbook Pro's around June 11-June 18.
I am in the 'do not remove the ethernet port' camp, but if they do then they better put 802.11ac into the new machines! Wireless N only isn't really enough of a replacement for wired gigabit ethernet. But that would also mean having draft 802.11ac specifications in the laptops and not the finalized standard, not that it matters much as judging by the 'n' standard it will take them several years to set the standard!!
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I don't think they'll remove the ethernet port, its used too much, to be honest who really wants to carry an adapter around? I wouldn't want to, if an adapter was needed Apple should include it with the laptop and it should at least be connected using USB3/Thunderbolt for a viable replacement to gigabit networking.
I knew someone would smart off and say that but when you do photo, web, graphics, and video freelance for a living and volunteer at a church doing media it is my top worry thank you very much!!!
I have noticed that in the past, when a new MBP is announced and makes its way to the store floor, the older MPB's are solid at a discount in the store. The staff won't tell you this unless asked. I know this because I experienced it first hand in a store.
Chances of ethernet staying are very high in my opinion, as I said in an earlier post, too many people use it and there is currently no viable replacement in gigabit networking, not to mention the immediate lack of security when using wireless, although I doubt this is of a major concern to many.