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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign

mrmarts said:
I am looking foward to a 15 inch MacBook pro with:

1. USB 3.0

2. Retina Display

3. Graphic bumps

4. Faster HDD access

5. A new design and thiness since the 2008 release

6. Mountain lion preinstalled

7. CPU bumps

8. Longer battery life



What I least look forward to:

1. Loss of the optical drive if apple can place a USB 3.0 port against its rival thunderbolt why can't they place a blu ray drive which would complement the retina display.

2. Those extra costs for going retina
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Well, what I am looking forward to is a little bit different. I must say that I need/want the following features:

1. IPS Retina Display. Fonts look blurry on a Mac screen due to Quartz (compared to the crisp text on Windows due to ClearType). I can't zoom out the text I'm writing because it looks so blurry! And I also can't zoom out web pages because the elements in the page look horrible! I'm crammed inside a 1280x800 screen and I can't expand it by zooming things out! I want the sharpness that only a very high resolution display is able to provide. I don't want to see the pixels while I'm writing a text. In addition, I also want more screen space to work on, and a Retina Display is able to provide that. And I also want good viewing angles.

2. SSD. I'm so amazed by the wonders of SSD! I do have a beefy Sager laptop equipped with a mobile quad-core Sandy Bridge (Core i7), 8 GB RAM, a dedicated video card and a 500 GB HDD (hybrid with a 4 GB SSD). My sister has a 13" Asus Zenbook with a mobile dual-core low voltage Core i5 running at 1.7 GHz only, but it has a 128 GB SSD. Both run Windows 7. Although the Sager has a much faster processor and much higher specifications overall, the puny Zenbook feels much snappier due to SSD. I'm never buying a computer with a HDD again! And I don't mind if the disk space will be cut by half or even more. I can have an external HDD for backup purposes or whatever.

3. Thinner and lighter. Laptops are becoming thinner and lighter. I carry a laptop with me every day and I need it to be thin and light. And the current MacBook Pro is not. My 15" Sager laptop, which is a tribute to bad design, weighs less than a 15" MacBook Pro. Sony has managed to cram a standard-voltage Core i7 in a 13" laptop which is lighter than a 11" MacBook Air. Why can't Apple? I don't mind if the laptop will not have a dedicated video card, an Ethernet port or an optical disk drive. I know that lots of people use these features, but I don't use them anymore. It's been more than a year that I don't put a CD/DVD on a computer. I do have a top-range NVIDIA graphics card in my desktop, but for little or no use at all (I've used to pay games once, but it's been over a year that I don't; and OpenCL and other GPGPU technologies are a failure, at least so far, IMHO). I just want the laptop thin and light.

In addition, I just want it better overall. Ivy Bridge processors, of course, but that's nearly a given at this point. And bigger battery life. But not having the 3 features mentioned above is kind of a deal breaker for me. If Apple doesn't implement these in its line of mobile Macs, I'm probably giving up Macs and buying a Windows laptop which fits my expectations...

Although I think Apple is leaning towards this direction, that's still just me, my opinion and my wishes. Everybody wants something different, I realize that. Some people can't live without an Ethernet port, an optical disk drive or a large HDD. And Apple won't be able to please everyone, especially because it has only a handful of laptops and it won't expand its line. Let's just wait to see what happens!
 
skaertus said:
Well, what I am looking forward to is a little bit different. I must say that I need/want the following features:

1. IPS Retina Display. Fonts look blurry on a Mac screen due to Quartz (compared to the crisp text on Windows due to ClearType). I can't zoom out the text I'm writing because it looks so blurry! And I also can't zoom out web pages because the elements in the page look horrible! I'm crammed inside a 1280x800 screen and I can't expand it by zooming things out! I want the sharpness that only a very high resolution display is able to provide. I don't want to see the pixels while I'm writing a text. In addition, I also want more screen space to work on, and a Retina Display is able to provide that. And I also want good viewing angles.

2. SSD. I'm so amazed by the wonders of SSD! I do have a beefy Sager laptop equipped with a mobile quad-core Sandy Bridge (Core i7), 8 GB RAM, a dedicated video card and a 500 GB HDD (hybrid with a 4 GB SSD). My sister has a 13" Asus Zenbook with a mobile dual-core low voltage Core i5 running at 1.7 GHz only, but it has a 128 GB SSD. Both run Windows 7. Although the Sager has a much faster processor and much higher specifications overall, the puny Zenbook feels much snappier due to SSD. I'm never buying a computer with a HDD again! And I don't mind if the disk space will be cut by half or even more. I can have an external HDD for backup purposes or whatever.

3. Thinner and lighter. Laptops are becoming thinner and lighter. I carry a laptop with me every day and I need it to be thin and light. And the current MacBook Pro is not. My 15" Sager laptop, which is a tribute to bad design, weighs less than a 15" MacBook Pro. Sony has managed to cram a standard-voltage Core i7 in a 13" laptop which is lighter than a 11" MacBook Air. Why can't Apple? I don't mind if the laptop will not have a dedicated video card, an Ethernet port or an optical disk drive. I know that lots of people use these features, but I don't use them anymore. It's been more than a year that I don't put a CD/DVD on a computer. I do have a top-range NVIDIA graphics card in my desktop, but for little or no use at all (I've used to pay games once, but it's been over a year that I don't; and OpenCL and other GPGPU technologies are a failure, at least so far, IMHO). I just want the laptop thin and light.

In addition, I just want it better overall. Ivy Bridge processors, of course, but that's nearly a given at this point. And bigger battery life. But not having the 3 features mentioned above is kind of a deal breaker for me. If Apple doesn't implement these in its line of mobile Macs, I'm probably giving up Macs and buying a Windows laptop which fits my expectations...

Although I think Apple is leaning towards this direction, that's still just me, my opinion and my wishes. Everybody wants something different, I realize that. Some people can't live without an Ethernet port, an optical disk drive or a large HDD. And Apple won't be able to please everyone, especially because it has only a handful of laptops and it won't expand its line. Let's just wait to see what happens!
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Yea I just want a nice thin/light, better graphics, RAM, SSD & higher resolution MBP 13 inch
 
An article from the WSJ : Apple May Make A Splash...With The Mac (you might have to google the title to access it)

No new information really just quotes from analysts

Reitzes said it is likely the Mac line will feature the retina-display technology used in the iPad, as well as the new Ivy Bridge quad-core processors from Intel Corp. (INTC) He also estimates that Apple’s new operating-system upgrade, called Mountain Lion, and the new MacBook Airs should be on the market before the first Ultrabook laptops with Microsoft Corp.’s (MSFT) Windows 8 operating system hit the shelves in the fall… “We believe recent data reflect a pause ahead of new products, which we believe will be released this quarter in June,” according to Reitzes, who has an overweight rating and $750 target price on Apple’s stock.
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There is something intriguing me in all of this.

It's been more than 6 months since Apple last updated one of its Macs (the MacBook Pro), and it was only a minor upgrade. The other Macs don't get any update in almost one year.

Here's the breakdown:

MacBook Pro: last update 214 days ago (average of 267 days)
MacBook Air: last update 310 days ago (average of 321 days)
Mac Mini: last updated 310 days ago (average of 356 days)
iMac: last updated 388 days ago (average of 273 days)
Mac Pro: last updated 668 days ago (average of 348 days)

As you can see, at the time of WWDC, all Macs, with the exception of the MacBook Pro and the Mac Mini, will have passed their average time for upgrades. The iMac could have been upgraded anytime in May, because the new desktop processors and the video cards are already here, but nothing happened. And the only rumors we see are about a refreshed MacBook Pro, the one which was updated more recently. What will happen to the other Macs?

Is Apple preparing a revamp of the whole line of Macs at once? It would be something grand. It's been about 10 days since the last rumors were heard, everything seems to be very calm right now. No leaked parts, nothing. Is something really going to happen? Is Apple going to surprise everyone?
 
well ...maybe..but frankly i don't wanna hope too much
and then see a boring WWDC which betrays most of our expectations...
for example..MacBook Pro (or even the Imac) line refreshed but Gpu neutralized by too much demanding Retina display...the right Gpu with the wrong display or if you prefer the right display with "the same tiny" mobile Gpu...
or mobile gpu from Nvidia (arghhh...) with a redesign^^
(better a 79xx with Air design...but..)
not all can be satisfied...i suppose..even if Apple can if only wants..
but..i don't think it will ..in one moment ,i mean..
 
I will say that anything can happen now that there is no Steve. I do believe that is time for Apple to make a big event and make something it has never done before. Something such as introducing a whole new line of Macs.
 
Hello to all,

Apple Store Canada since today reports all Macbook Pros as "not on stock".

Until yesterday all models were on stock with BTO models needing 2-4 business days.

Since this morning all models of Macbook Pros are 1-2 business days while BTO models require an extra day.

May mean sth, may not.

Just informing the public :)
 
I'm sure this won't happen, but it would be pretty awesome if they built leap motion into the macbook pro.
 
keramidas said:
Hello to all,

Apple Store Canada since today reports all Macbook Pros as "not on stock".

Until yesterday all models were on stock with BTO models needing 2-4 business days.

Since this morning all models of Macbook Pros are 1-2 business days while BTO models require an extra day.

May mean sth, may not.

Just informing the public :)
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Shows in stock for me with shipping in 1-2 days.
 
Anyone know what kind of history apple has of releasing hardware at wwdc? Last year it was all software. If they have released hardware what was it in the past?

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nvm did the research...found my answer
 
keramidas said:
Hello to all,

Apple Store Canada since today reports all Macbook Pros as "not on stock".

Until yesterday all models were on stock with BTO models needing 2-4 business days.

Since this morning all models of Macbook Pros are 1-2 business days while BTO models require an extra day.

May mean sth, may not.

Just informing the public :)
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Is it some kind of holiday in canada? Otherwise, this would be great news!
 
Don't hold your breath

Here is what I think:

(1) The new Pros will be slightly slimmer. (Why would Apple make the Pros look like the Airs? Apple wants you to buy both!! Apple won't make a "perfect" Macbook because then people would just be happy with one machine.) Duhh!!!

(2) They will still have an ethernet port.

(3) They will have USB 3.0.

(4) There will be no Optical Drives (Edit: Apple wants you to buy music and rent moves via iTunes. This will once-and-for-all put the Blu Ray wishes to sleep. Also, external Blu Ray drives require two USB ports. Unless you buy the 17", you're gonna be Scheiße outta luck.)

(5) Obvi because of (4), the USB ports will be on both sides.

(6) They will still have a firewire port.

(7) They will have 2 Thunderbolt ports.

(8) They will probablyyyy have a higher megapixel camera.

(9) Here is the bubble buster: NO RETINA DISPLAY! The retina display resolution would just be wayyyy too high for a laptop. (Edit: Not to mention the Retina would cost wayyy too much for Apple. See the cost benefit ratio is very high (meaning high profit) for iPads because they cost soo much more than they should.)


P.S. : I love my 2011 17" Pro because I was able to remove the Optical Drive and replace it with a SSD. You won't be able to install a second drive in the new ones. I doubt Apple is completely happy about users replacing the OD with a SSD because the SSD (flash) is a feature of the Airs. Apple knows that no-one is crazy enough to replace the main HD with a SSD because the large capacity SSDs cost a limb and a ligament (had to change that cliché). However, having USB 3.0 will be nice, but I'll just wait until Thunderbolt becomes more affordable. Like I said, Apple won't make a "perfect" machine. Now run away with this!!! You ask how I'm so confident about this.....because I'm the One. Duhh!


Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed on this site by KRB24 are purely speculative and any real life resemblance is completely coincidental.
 
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KRB24 said:
(9) Here is the bubble buster: NO RETINA DISPLAY! The retina display resolution would just be wayyyy too high for a laptop. (Edit: Not to mention the Retina would cost wayyy too much for Apple. See the cost benefit ratio is very high (meaning high profit) for iPads because they cost soo much more than they should.)
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Why would it be too high for a laptop? They sell a 2048x1536 tablet. The iPad has a higher resolution than the 15" MacBook Pro and cost $310 in parts alone. Add packaging and distribution and all that to the mix and I wouldn't at all say they cost more than they should. They cost what they should actually.

A 2880x1800 display would cost Apple an additional $100 as already noted elsewhere. If Apple doesn't do it, others already plan to by the end of the year (at 3840x2160). In all honesty, laptops should be there by now. Whether it was manufacturer greed or performance reasons, the fact is that LCD panel resolution hasn't changed much in consumer laptops in almost a decade. What has changed is the tech... color gamut, backlighting, response time. Resolution not so much, not like it should have at least. Both Apple and Microsoft talked about resolution independence with Leopard and Vista respectively. Neither were completley ready for it but it didn't matter anyways since resolution stayed pretty much the same. Apple has advanced since then and Microsoft really hasn't (apparently Windows 8 is supposed to change that). That was years ago and it was because displays were expected to increase in resolution. Desktop displays have to an extent, but not in the mainstream and definitely not in laptops. Basically what I'm saying is a 'retina' display in a laptop is long overdue.
 
just some info for the people who are worried that apple has not announced a keynote for 2012 wwdc. last year they didnt announce that a keynote would be given until one week prior to the event according to a press release i found on apples website....there is still plenty of time!
 
unwinded said:
Why would it be too high for a laptop? They sell a 2048x1536 tablet. The iPad has a higher resolution than the 15" MacBook Pro and cost $310 in parts alone. Add packaging and distribution and all that to the mix and I wouldn't at all say they cost more than they should. They cost what they should actually.

A 2880x1800 display would cost Apple an additional $100 as already noted elsewhere. If Apple doesn't do it, others already plan to by the end of the year (at 3840x2160). In all honesty, laptops should be there by now. Whether it was manufacturer greed or performance reasons, the fact is that LCD panel resolution hasn't changed much in consumer laptops in almost a decade. What has changed is the tech... color gamut, backlighting, response time. Resolution not so much, not like it should have at least. Both Apple and Microsoft talked about resolution independence with Leopard and Vista respectively. Neither were completley ready for it but it didn't matter anyways since resolution stayed pretty much the same. Apple has advanced since then and Microsoft really hasn't (apparently Windows 8 is supposed to change that). That was years ago and it was because displays were expected to increase in resolution. Desktop displays have to an extent, but not in the mainstream and definitely not in laptops. Basically what I'm saying is a 'retina' display in a laptop is long overdue.
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It is my opinion. You could be right. I based my opinion on this and plenty other reviews: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-3121_7...ina-display-on-a-macbook-could-be-a-bad-idea/

There are plenty of reviews out there that state the contrary. You choose which one is accurate.
 
People really need to think about what they are typing before they post crap.

And no need to say my post is ironic. It's not.
 
KRB24 said:
It is my opinion. You could be right. I based my opinion on this and plenty other reviews: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-3121_7...ina-display-on-a-macbook-could-be-a-bad-idea/

There are plenty of reviews out there that state the contrary. You choose which one is accurate.
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The iPhone and the iPad that users want is also overdue.

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that1guyy said:
People really need to think about what they are typing before they post crap.

And no need to say my post is ironic. It's not.
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I know right? You guys research that while I enjoy my life. I'm one of the biggest Apple fans out there. I just say what I feel is right.
 
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I know right? You guys research that while I enjoy my life. I'm one of the biggest Apple fans out there. I just say what I feel is right.[/QUOTE]

biggest apple fans arent n00bs to major apple forums that is highly regarded and been around for years...just saying...n00b
 
sk8r1230 said:
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I know right? You guys research that while I enjoy my life. I'm one of the biggest Apple fans out there. I just say what I feel is right.
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biggest apple fans arent n00bs to major apple forums that is highly regarded and been around for years...just saying...n00b
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So you are 100% confident that Apple will introduce the Retina to all the Macbooks? Tell me how many pixels per inch they will have. Also, will the battery life be sacrificed? Will they be thinner and have a Retina? Will it weigh more? The difference between the iPhone/iPad and Macbook is that one would hold the iPad/iPhone closer to one's eyes. Please do explain. Oh and I've been a reader at macrumors for quite a while now.
 
Lmao! Ur so mad! I for one, unlike you, have never claimed to know any details of what apple will do or really care to sit here and guess. I have my hopes and have been patiently waiting. I simply stated that people who claim to be the biggest apple fans ever usually aren't brand spankin new forum members, again like yourself.
 
sk8r1230 said:
Lmao! Ur so mad! I for one, unlike you, have never claimed to know any details of what apple will do or really care to sit here and guess. I have my hopes and have been patiently waiting. I simply stated that people who claim to be the biggest apple fans ever usually aren't brand spankin new forum members, again like yourself.
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Aaahahaha. If I were "mad" I would be foaming from the mouth. And that's what I thought. Oh, and you keep waiting! Hahaha.

I think the other "n00bs" on this forum should read this article and decide for themselves without getting their hopes up too high:

http://www.tuaw.com/2012/05/21/rumor-roundup-episode-5-new-macbook-pros-steal-the-spotlight/

I think you've done all you can to help me make my point. Thanks to all the Mr. Online forum experts.



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