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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign

GNSquacker said:
Alright. Would this be likely?
All MBP's redesigned, slimmer.
They include:
-Retina Displays
-No ODD
-SDD storage on Motherboard for OS/Apps (32, 64, 128 GB options)
-Nvidia graphics
-USB 3
-SSD/HDD option for media/ other shtuff
-Bigger Battery
Not going to comment on other ports, have no idea. Would taking out the ODD give the space for more battery/ nvidia? (on a 13)
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You're probably right.

Probably redesigned and slimmer. Everybody else is making their laptops slimmer, and Apple probably has an eye on that.

Retina displays should happen too. It is the logical path to be followed after retina displays became available for the iPhone and the iPad. Mac OS already supports this feature, Intel announced this feature for Ivy Bridge, Microsoft is building this feature for release with Windows 8, and these screens are already available from suppliers (at a cost which is not prohibitive).

No ODD should happen too. Apple released the Mac App Store and Mac OS X Lion is available through it, and not on a DVD. It should drop the ODD soon.

USB 3.0 will happen when Apple puts an Ivy Bridge inside the Macs. There's no reason why Apple would leave this feature out.

NVIDIA video cards are likely too. For the 15" and 17" models. I don't believe the 13" model will get a dedicated video card, but I'm just guessing here.

More battery should also happen, but we're yet to see whether the Retina Display will suck a lot of battery life out of it. If there's no optical disk drive and no hard disk drive, Apple may save some battery for the Retina Display.

The wild card for me is storage. Apple is probably not willing to keep a hard disk drive inside the MacBook Pros. Not after adopting SSDs (which are way faster) in the iPods, iPhones, iPads and MacBook Airs. And not after buying SSD-maker Anobit for US$ 500 million. To put a smaller SSD to run Mac OS and apps and a larger HDD to keep files would be an alternative to please both the users who want the blazing speed of the SSDs and the ones who can't live without the storage capacity of HDDs. But Apple has its own ways, and if SSDs are the future, they may well scrap HDDs. Apple craves for well-designed products and eye into the future, and it wouldn't make sense to keep HDDs in a product design that will still be sold in 3 years from now. People would still be able to connect an external HDD to the USB 3.0.
 
I think Apple could revert to SSD only. Someone brought up the point yonks ago that Apple gives their redesigns timelines of around 4-5 years and won't change the internals until the next redesign. So while the SSD capacity right now is low, it will gradually increase over the years up to the point where they can provide HDD level of storage with a SSD at a reasonable cost.

Of course Apple could then think that a slimmer design, retina display and all the other new features are a worthy trade off.

I don't want to speculate on the actual capacity of the SSDs Apple could use, or indeed whether it will be the 'blade' SSD or a standard 2.5" drive. I think that, right now, is impossible to truly say.

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samac92 said:
http://itsalmo.st/#wwdc2012

I have exams just after WWDC, so time is going simultaneously too fast to get all the work done and too slow for the MBPs to come :p
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This is the exact same for me! If the 11th June date turns out to be correct then the Macbook Pro will be out 1 day before my first exam.
 
PVisitors said:
I think Apple could revert to SSD only. Someone brought up the point yonks ago that Apple gives their redesigns timelines of around 4-5 years and won't change the internals until the next redesign. So while the SSD capacity right now is low, it will gradually increase over the years up to the point where they can provide HDD level of storage with a SSD at a reasonable cost.

Of course Apple could then think that a slimmer design, retina display and all the other new features are a worthy trade off.

I don't want to speculate on the actual capacity of the SSDs Apple could use, or indeed whether it will be the 'blade' SSD or a standard 2.5" drive. I think that, right now, is impossible to truly say.
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I think they could get some flexible options by having two slots for the blade-style SSDs. The default configuration could be 1x256 SSD, with an option for 2x256 and 2x512($$$$).
 
skaertus said:
Unlikely, given the minimalistic philosophy of Apple.
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I agree that a single drive is probably the best solution in some respects, but getting 512GB on a single SSD, let alone 1024GB, is quite costly right now.

Apple does use combinations of multiple drives on its iMac line, so I don't think it's something they would never consider.
 
PVisitors said:
This is the exact same for me! If the 11th June date turns out to be correct then the Macbook Pro will be out 1 day before my first exam.
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For me it's opposite. I have 3 more exams and my 19 birhtday then few days later MacBook will be released. Have lot to do and too little time but in same time can't wait. :D
 
Damn I've been out for summer since Thursday. These next two weeks are going to be a slow wait. I need a job.
 
Tritons said:
For me it's opposite. I have 3 more exams and my 19 birhtday then few days later MacBook will be released. Have lot to do and too little time but in same time can't wait. :D
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Hopefully the Back to School promotion is launched with the Macbook Pro too. Would be even better.
 
iFanboy said:
Btw, that last sentence is nebulous to the extreme. In terms of global usage, Apple computers are nowhere near as popular as HP laptops. "Popular Brand" means anything you want it to mean. Luis Vuitton is a "popular brand", but most women aren't rocking their latest stuff.
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In reality, if you are looking to buy a new computer, you will look at more than one option. You will most likely look at options from two major companies. HP and Apple are major companies in the computer market. It is that simple.
 
Xcallibur said:
Oh definitely, that would be great, anybody think it'll be different to last years £60 App Store credit?
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Wishful thinking but the Apple TV would be good. Not that unrealistic given the free iPod touches they offered in 2010 were selling for £140 weren't they?
 
skaertus said:
You're probably right.

Probably redesigned and slimmer. Everybody else is making their laptops slimmer, and Apple probably has an eye on that.

Retina displays should happen too. It is the logical path to be followed after retina displays became available for the iPhone and the iPad. Mac OS already supports this feature, Intel announced this feature for Ivy Bridge, Microsoft is building this feature for release with Windows 8, and these screens are already available from suppliers (at a cost which is not prohibitive).

No ODD should happen too. Apple released the Mac App Store and Mac OS X Lion is available through it, and not on a DVD. It should drop the ODD soon.

USB 3.0 will happen when Apple puts an Ivy Bridge inside the Macs. There's no reason why Apple would leave this feature out.

NVIDIA video cards are likely too. For the 15" and 17" models. I don't believe the 13" model will get a dedicated video card, but I'm just guessing here.

More battery should also happen, but we're yet to see whether the Retina Display will suck a lot of battery life out of it. If there's no optical disk drive and no hard disk drive, Apple may save some battery for the Retina Display.

The wild card for me is storage. Apple is probably not willing to keep a hard disk drive inside the MacBook Pros. Not after adopting SSDs (which are way faster) in the iPods, iPhones, iPads and MacBook Airs. And not after buying SSD-maker Anobit for US$ 500 million. To put a smaller SSD to run Mac OS and apps and a larger HDD to keep files would be an alternative to please both the users who want the blazing speed of the SSDs and the ones who can't live without the storage capacity of HDDs. But Apple has its own ways, and if SSDs are the future, they may well scrap HDDs. Apple craves for well-designed products and eye into the future, and it wouldn't make sense to keep HDDs in a product design that will still be sold in 3 years from now. People would still be able to connect an external HDD to the USB 3.0.
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The only possible way Apple will include 2 drives (1 SSD & 1 HDD) is if they make it seamless via software (Mountain Lion). They could make the whole system files on SSD simple if Mountain Lion does it for you. I highly doubt it.
 
KRB24 said:
The only possible way Apple will include 2 drives (1 SSD & 1 HDD) is if they make it seamless via software (Mountain Lion). They could make the whole system files on SSD simple if Mountain Lion does it for you. I highly doubt it.
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Apple already sells BTO iMacs with both an SSD and an HDD.
 
Hi, sorry if this has already been asked (I didn't have time to read through almost 150 pages of posts), wait why is it that a large number of news sources seem to be focussing specifically on a 15" MBP release? Any chance the 13" or 17" will be discontInued/not updated/updated later?
All I really want is a 13" and I'm staying strong waiting through this update but I'd hate to see that it wasn't worth the wait.
 
KieranDotW said:
Hi, sorry if this has already been asked (I didn't have time to read through almost 150 pages of posts), wait why is it that a large number of news sources seem to be focussing specifically on a 15" MBP release? Any chance the 13" or 17" will be discontInued/not updated/updated later?
All I really want is a 13" and I'm staying strong waiting through this update but I'd hate to see that it wasn't worth the wait.
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Well, there already is a 13'' thin macbook. It's probably more interesting to speculate about a 15'' model.
 
Liquinn said:
Well when the 2012 models are out, speculation will move onto the Haswell MBPs xD. That's technology for you. :p
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Well we are all expecting according to pretty reliable sources (Bloomberg) for a redesign. If there is a redesign, noone will give a karp about the incremental updates for the next 4 years till they do something new again.

This is shaping up to be a significant update and we'll all laugh when your sig is updated to say macbook pro 13" 2012.
 
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