2012 Macbook Pro Redesign

[soulniz]

What I hope:
- They launch the 13.3" MBP the same day as the 15".
- They don't change the design, I think it's great as it is.
- They put a new processor in, whether it be a dual-core or a quad-core.
- They don't make the SSD the new standard.
- It's the same price as the current model (it probably won't be) - they should at least make it cheaper in the education store.
- It holds battery better.

 

[Tritons]

It's pure speculation but if you had to guess, do you belive that it's possible we will se new macbooks in stores (Germany) on let's say 7. May? (I'm asking cuz in my home country they are extremely expensive and I'll be in Germany from 3-7 May.)

 

[Boe11]

It's pure speculation but if you had to guess, do you belive that it's possible we will se new macbooks in stores (Germany) on let's say 7. May? (I'm asking cuz in my home country they are extremely expensive and I'll be in Germany from 3-7 May.)

As you mentioned, it is pure speculation, but I'd say it's very possible. I think by the end of this month we'll know a lot more.

 

[Ohrstrom]

It's pure speculation but if you had to guess, do you belive that it's possible we will se new macbooks in stores (Germany) on let's say 7. May? (I'm asking cuz in my home country they are extremely expensive and I'll be in Germany from 3-7 May.)

Very hard to answer that, some people will go yes, and some people will go no. I have my hopes up for a very imminent release, but Im not sure how long it takes for them to come to certain european countries after their USA Launch, the ipad took like 10 days from USA to Sweden counting releasedate. My best estimate is 'Doubtful' I think they may probably take a bit longer, but thats me being cautious, as Id rather be pleasantly suprised rather than frustratingly disappointed.

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As you mentioned, it is pure speculation, but I'd say it's very possible. I think by the end of this month we'll know a lot more.

I agree fully, I also hope that by the end of this month we will know more, unfortunately I think that knowledge will still mean a couple more weeks, but one should obviously keep their hopes up.

 

[cmChimera]

Obviously stock is running low at Best Buy. Most stores seem out of stock in my area. Almost all require shipment from warehouse.

Edit: I'll be clear about this. There seem to be a number of stores in New Orleans that still have some available, but it appears that the entire state of Louisiana is really out of 15" Macbook Pro's (750gb) (from Best Buy.) All of them require ordering. I could be misunderstanding how they're stock works though.

Edit 2: 500(gb) hdd is definitely more available than the 750(gb) but there are still many that require shipping.

 

[zgwortz]

I would love to see Blu Ray in the 17". I need optical disc.

A Blu-Ray in the 17" would be the thing which would push me over the edge and make the 17" a must-buy for me.

That said, expect this to be an unpopular sentiment here -- there are a lot of naysayers here who can't conceive of anyone having a use for optical drives, to the point of being unwilling to see it as even a BTO option. I think that's fairly shortsighted, and the only supporting evidence they can currently point to is a rumor about a thinner MacBook Pro with no ODD that can be traced to a single, not particularly reliable source, Digitimes.

I'm fairly sure we'll see optical drives remain at least in the 17" MBPs for several years to come, and quite likely also in the 15", although I can see them being taken out of the 13" sometime in the next refresh or the one after that.

I'm less sure we'll ever see that optical drive upgraded to a Blu-ray, although I give it a significantly higher chance now than I did when Steve Jobs was at the helm.

 

[cmChimera]

A Blu-Ray in the 17" would be the thing which would push me over the edge and make the 17" a must-buy for me.

That said, expect this to be an unpopular sentiment here -- there are a lot of naysayers here who can't conceive of anyone having a use for optical drives, to the point of being unwilling to see it as even a BTO option. I think that's fairly shortsighted, and the only supporting evidence they can currently point to is a rumor about a thinner MacBook Pro with no ODD that can be traced to a single, not particularly reliable source, Digitimes.

I'm fairly sure we'll see optical drives remain at least in the 17" MBPs for several years to come, and quite likely also in the 15", although I can see them being taken out of the 13" sometime in the next refresh or the one after that.

I'm less sure we'll ever see that optical drive upgraded to a Blu-ray, although I give it a significantly higher chance now than I did when Steve Jobs was at the helm.

It's not that people can't understand there being a use for the drive. Most people just feel like it's not as useful as some of the benefits that could be gained from its removal.

 

[Ohrstrom]

A Blu-Ray in the 17" would be the thing which would push me over the edge and make the 17" a must-buy for me.

That said, expect this to be an unpopular sentiment here -- there are a lot of naysayers here who can't conceive of anyone having a use for optical drives, to the point of being unwilling to see it as even a BTO option. I think that's fairly shortsighted, and the only supporting evidence they can currently point to is a rumor about a thinner MacBook Pro with no ODD that can be traced to a single, not particularly reliable source, Digitimes.

I'm fairly sure we'll see optical drives remain at least in the 17" MBPs for several years to come, and quite likely also in the 15", although I can see them being taken out of the 13" sometime in the next refresh or the one after that.

I'm less sure we'll ever see that optical drive upgraded to a Blu-ray, although I give it a significantly higher chance now than I did when Steve Jobs was at the helm.

Im personally not in need of an ODD but I wouldnt mind them staying, because then I can have both an SSD and a big storage HDD without being in debt for years. It going to Blu-ray I have a really hard time seeing though, more like it will stick around until Apple thinks its time to remove it.

 

[TJ5921]

I have an i5 mid-2010 MBP w/ antiglare and upgraded to 8 gb ram with lion installed. I love this machine and could easily see myself having it for another 3-5 years but I am considering selling it and essentially swapping it for a 2012 13 in. MBA or 13 in. MBP. It's a tough decision because the longer I wait to upgrade, the less money I'd get for my 2010. I'm guessing I could get around $1,200 for my mbp which would basically pay for the 13 in mba or mbp. Any thoughts?

 

[Tritons]

As you mentioned, it is pure speculation, but I'd say it's very possible. I think by the end of this month we'll know a lot more.

Very hard to answer that, some people will go yes, and some people will go no. I have my hopes up for a very imminent release, but Im not sure how long it takes for them to come to certain european countries after their USA Launch, the ipad took like 10 days from USA to Sweden counting releasedate. My best estimate is 'Doubtful' I think they may probably take a bit longer, but thats me being cautious, as Id rather be pleasantly suprised rather than frustratingly disappointed.

Thank you both. I sure hope it would come out before 7th but well I'll get it either way.

 

[McGilli]

I hope that instead of an optical drive there is an option to mount a 2nd battery in the 17" MBP.

 

[macrominnie]

I have an i5 mid-2010 MBP w/ antiglare and upgraded to 8 gb ram with lion installed. I love this machine and could easily see myself having it for another 3-5 years but I am considering selling it and essentially swapping it for a 2012 13 in. MBA or 13 in. MBP. It's a tough decision because the longer I wait to upgrade, the less money I'd get for my 2010. I'm guessing I could get around $1,200 for my mbp which would basically pay for the 13 in mba or mbp. Any thoughts?

I suggest putting aside concerns about resale value. You have a machine that serves you well. Look at the goals of an upgrade. More of the depreciation occurs early, even for MBP's. The difference between selling now and late this year will be small, maybe $100 or less. Even in the Apple refurb store, prices on recent models don't drop very much when a newer model is released.

Much depends of needs and wants. If light weight or small size is important on the road, see what new new MBP brings or go for MBA 13. If firewire peripherals are needed, wait for the new MBP.

If system performance is important, think about swapping in an SSD (or possibly a hybrid drive) in your current MBP if that hasn't been done. You'll love the current MBP even more.

If a good display is a priority, have a look at the MBA 13, and wait to see what the new MBP's bring.

Obviously if top flight performance or graphics for intensive work is the major concern, get the next generation when it arrives.

 

[Winter Charm]

Beefier graphics come with Ivybridge as standard.

With the migration of Macbook pro to SSD, the Airs already having Flash (which is pretty similar) and the retiring of the Superdrives... and the coalescence to Thunderbolt to break out the I/O... I am not seeing what the differentiation between a 13" MBP and a 13" Air will actually be.

Hence the 13" MBP future is questionable.

They could still go with a thicker (yet tapered) design to incorporate beefy internals.

I hope they do.

But if they don't, perhaps we will just see MacBooks this year (no Pro/air descriptors)?

I'm sure that the inclusion of great processors and SSD's will make them very snappy

 

[east85]

I think that a BTO option for an optical drive under the current form factor, but with updated components- would be ideal to service the niche that still uses them. I don't see it as possibly fragmenting the product line, either. I'm sure sales for optical drive capable MacBook Pros would be a lot lower, but I think on second thought it would be a good decision for Apple to make because not everyone is going to want to purchase an external optical drive. That and it's not nearly as portable if you factor in having to carry one of those around as well.

 

[that1guyy]

I think that a BTO option for an optical drive under the current form factor, but with updated components- would be ideal to service the niche that still uses them. I don't see it as possibly fragmenting the product line, either. I'm sure sales for optical drive capable MacBook Pros would be a lot lower, but I think on second thought it would be a good decision for Apple to make because not everyone is going to want to purchase an external optical drive. That and it's not nearly as portable if you factor in having to carry one of those around as well.

Not everyone needs to have an optical drive everywhere they go. Tell me, how often in a month do you use your ODD? Once, twice? I know I use mine maybe once or twice in a year. I am under the belief the majority of other consumers are the same way.

My second note is: when you use a CD, where do you usually use it? Obviously when you're installing something via CD, you're going to be home right? For those rare occasions you use your drive, buy a cheap third party drive and be done with it.

Those heavy gamers who need a CD to play games: Use Steam or Origin or Uplay. If you somehow still need a CD. If you're really the hardcore gamer, you should know gaming isn't really good on a laptop in the first place, especially a Mac. Go buy a Windows machine.

/Rant. It's late and I can't sleep =/

 

[east85]

Not everyone needs to have an optical drive everywhere they go. Tell me, how often in a month do you use your ODD? Once, twice? I know I use mine maybe once or twice in a year. I am under the belief the majority of other consumers are the same way.

My second note is: when you use a CD, where do you usually use it? Obviously when you're installing something via CD, you're going to be home right? For those rare occasions you use your drive, buy a cheap third party drive and be done with it.

Those heavy gamers who need a CD to play games: Use Steam or Origin or Uplay. If you somehow still need a CD. If you're really the hardcore gamer, you should know gaming isn't really good on a laptop in the first place, especially a Mac. Go buy a Windows machine.

/Rant. It's late and I can't sleep =/

You're sort of missing my point. I specifically pointed out that it would be productive for Apple to create a Build To Order option for the Niche (a minority of users) that, due to circumstances such as company policy or whatever, must be able to access, create, and use optical media on a regular basis.

I never indicated that I personally, or a majority of users would find usefulness in the inclusion of an optical drive. I know personally I would opt to not have one.

PS: I can't sleep either. D:

 

[H14]

People seem to be really set on this 'redesign' thing, but in the end it's still just speculation. Think of all the hate when this 'new' macbook pro turns out to be just another speed bump.

 

[itsamacthing]

People seem to be really set on this 'redesign' thing, but in the end it's still just speculation. Think of all the hate when this 'new' macbook pro turns out to be just another speed bump.

Ivy Bridge is not a speed bump, its a new platform essentially. And there has been web wide spec about the whole line being revamped. It makes sense.. but yea, there was some backlash with the 4S for exactly what you are saying. the dangers of fanning too much

 

[New Apple]

Ivy Bridge is not a speed bump, its a new platform essentially. And there has been web wide spec about the whole line being revamped. It makes sense.. but yea, there was some backlash with the 4S for exactly what you are saying. the dangers of fanning too much

a lot of people seems 'focusing' on answering that 'the Ivy darling Bridge' wont speed up dramatically from a previous version of the MBP

but like if that was the only update (eventual)

the SSD, the graphics, the more ram, whatever else it's 5-20% here and there that makes the whole experience much more faster than what is the bump from Eva to Ivy (eva is random ofc)

ofcourse, if i have to update from my 2011 mbp i'd have a little bump
but who asks in most of cases is not an owner of a recent machine, it might be totally new to Apple, or own a 5-6-7 yo machine
for the same money, i'd prefer a 5%+5%+10%+15%+3%+6% faster machine
if u own the latest MBP you should not ask yourself if it is worth to update but if you can spend the money in a better way


cheers

 

[arctic]

There are 2 reasons why I'm certain there won't be a redesign. First:

the only supporting evidence they can currently point to is a rumor about a thinner MacBook Pro with no ODD that can be traced to a single, not particularly reliable source, Digitimes.

And second, we should be getting leaked parts by now. I can imagine all the kiddos here kickin' and screaming when out of the blue, we'll just see a refresh of the specs in Apple's site with the exact same pictures of the units. I'll prepare popcorn as I read MacRumors.

 

[cmChimera]

There are 2 reasons why I'm certain there won't be a redesign. First:



And second, we should be getting leaked parts by now. I can imagine all the kiddos here kickin' and screaming when out of the blue, we'll just see a refresh of the specs in Apple's site with the exact same pictures of the units. I'll prepare popcorn as I read MacRumors.

I, for one, don't really care if it looks the same. All I care about are the internals. I would welcome a pleasant redesign, but it is far from crucial. That said, Apple may just have this locked down. There are less units to protect, which most likely makes it easier to prevent leaks.

 

[NewbieCanada]

There are 2 reasons why I'm certain there won't be a redesign. First:



And second, we should be getting leaked parts by now. I can imagine all the kiddos here kickin' and screaming when out of the blue, we'll just see a refresh of the specs in Apple's site with the exact same pictures of the units. I'll prepare popcorn as I read MacRumors.

Macbook Pros sell in vastly lower numbers than iPhones and iPads. In the last 10 years 83 million Macs have sold -that's all models. 183 million iPhones and 55 million iPads. (in a much shorter time span). There just isn't going to be nearly the same amount of media speculation about an upcoming launch.

 

[Nautilus007]

redesign

I hope it is a redesign, and not just a 15 inch macbook air. There were so many rumors about product overhauls this year iMac, iPhone, Macbook Pro, Apple TV and I just don't see them completely redesigning all these products even though they all have looked the same for years. I think they do need to change visuals up a little bit because I am bored of the designs.

 

[Cicatrix]

I, for one, don't really care if it looks the same. All I care about are the internals. I would welcome a pleasant redesign, but it is far from crucial. That said, Apple may just have this locked down. There are less units to protect, which most likely makes it easier to prevent leaks.

not trying to be a horses ass or anything but if all you care about is internals why not just build a desktop? or get a pc laptop that's lower cost.

 

[Ohrstrom]

not trying to be a horses ass or anything but if all you care about is internals why not just build a desktop? or get a pc laptop that's lower cost.

Not to be mean but you are kinds being a horses ass by saying that, for one theres a slight difference between a desktop and a laptop, number two nothing buildable comes close to the freshness that a unibody delivers and three, he didbt say he didnt care st all about the design just that the current one was good enough in his eyes, theres more reasons but im on my iphone so ill stop here