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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign
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Have ye no faith?! A wise man once said (or it may be a quote from a movie), faith can turn that pile of crap into a bed of seed-filled manure that nourishing food and beautiful plants springs forth from.
So yeah, I still think that a new MBP will be announced by the end of next week.
Here are my thoughts:
Optimistic scenario:
Brand-new, redesigned MacBook Pro
Released in April (together with the Ivy Bridge processor)
Ultra-thin
Ivy Bridge processor
No optical drive
SSD instead of HDD
Retina display
Pessimistic scenario:
Updated MacBook Pro (no redesign)
Released in June (together with the other Ivy Bridge processors)
Ivy Bridge Processor
Optical drive, HDD, etc.
Realistic scenario:
Redesigned MacBook Pro
Thinner design (but not ultra-thin)
Released in June
Ivy Bridge processor
Retina display (just before the release of Mountain Lion)
SSD as an option (HDD is still the standard)
No optical drive
Optimistic scenario:
Brand-new, redesigned MacBook Pro
Released in April (together with the Ivy Bridge processor)
Ultra-thin
Ivy Bridge processor
No optical drive
SSD instead of HDD
Retina display
Pessimistic scenario:
Updated MacBook Pro (no redesign)
Released in June (together with the other Ivy Bridge processors)
Ivy Bridge Processor
Optical drive, HDD, etc.
Realistic scenario:
Redesigned MacBook Pro
Thinner design (but not ultra-thin)
Released in June
Ivy Bridge processor
Retina display (just before the release of Mountain Lion)
SSD as an option (HDD is still the standard)
No optical drive
hp notebook with ivy bridge got an early review. it also has a intel 4000 chip which is to be expected in the new macbook pro. the 4000 gpu seems to be a couple 1000% faster than the old 3000 which is good news. and along with a decent upgrade to the dedicated gpu plus ssd (hopefully) standard i cant wait to get a new 15 mbp
http://www.laptopreviews.com/hp-elitebook-8470p-review-intel-ivy-bridge-shines-2012-04.com
http://www.laptopreviews.com/hp-elitebook-8470p-review-intel-ivy-bridge-shines-2012-04.com
Something like this
I don't think we will se a redesigned MBP yet - Apple has enough to offer with just a spec upgrade to the current MBP:
Ivy Bridge (includes USB 3.0)
HDD+SSD instead of ODD as an option
High resolution antiglare screen, eventually smaller bezel with bigger screen
-Many would buy this i think?
Though, I would like to se:
New air-like design. Maybe dark metal?
High resolution antiglare screen. Smaller screen-bezel
No optical disc drive
SSD, USB 3.0, TB
Quad Core Ivy Bridge
28nm GPU
8-16gb ram (unfortunately not yet DDR4)
Maybe:
External TB GPU instead of integrated GPU?
1.5" HHD for extra disc space?
Bigger touchpad?
I don't think we will se a redesigned MBP yet - Apple has enough to offer with just a spec upgrade to the current MBP:
Ivy Bridge (includes USB 3.0)
HDD+SSD instead of ODD as an option
High resolution antiglare screen, eventually smaller bezel with bigger screen
-Many would buy this i think?
Though, I would like to se:
New air-like design. Maybe dark metal?
High resolution antiglare screen. Smaller screen-bezel
No optical disc drive
SSD, USB 3.0, TB
Quad Core Ivy Bridge
28nm GPU
8-16gb ram (unfortunately not yet DDR4)
Maybe:
External TB GPU instead of integrated GPU?
1.5" HHD for extra disc space?
Bigger touchpad?
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what would the bigger trackpad be utilized for? just curious. not a fan of the black but i like your ideas on the hardware
Yes, a while ago I also considered the new Pro having a larger trackpad that takes up the entire palm rest area. It would mainly benefit and expand on touch gestures I guess and maybe one can use both hands at once! I think it's a great idea.
Hopefully Apple doesn't skimp out on the dedicated gpu upgrade and usb 3.
If you have Ivy Bridge, you have USB 3. There's no way to have Ivy Bridge and doesn't have USB 3.
A redesign is inevitable at this point, I think. The current design is more than 3 and a half years old and the sales of Macs were disappointing in the first quarter. If Apple fails to redesing the MacBook Pro now, it will have to pit a 4-year old design against much cheaper ultrabooks equipped with Ivy Bridge processors and a somewhat capable GPU (which lots of people will consider more than enough). A little bit risky, isn't it?
So does this throw all the rumors off??
http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...ill_be_high_end_quad_core_parts?taxonomyId=12
http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...ill_be_high_end_quad_core_parts?taxonomyId=12
I would consider a Macbook Pro to be a 'high end' laptop, so no. This only emphasizes the validity of the rumors.
I would consider a Macbook Pro to be a 'high end' laptop, so no. This only emphasizes the validity of the rumors.
Sweet thanks! Waiting patiently for my first Macbook purchase
Sweet thanks! Waiting patiently for my first Macbook purchase
I'm waiting very impatiently for my first Mac.
I'm jonesing for these resolutionary new MacBook Pros.
Death of ODD (at last!) allowing for an incredible slimmer design.
Amazing new CPUs from Intel.
Gorgeous retina displays on both 15" and 17" models.
Up-to 32GB RAM.
New 1TB SSD option.
If your friends don't have Mac envy yet, they will when they see your new 2012 MacBook Pro with all these remarkable new features included.
Death of ODD (at last!) allowing for an incredible slimmer design.
Amazing new CPUs from Intel.
Gorgeous retina displays on both 15" and 17" models.
Up-to 32GB RAM.
New 1TB SSD option.
If your friends don't have Mac envy yet, they will when they see your new 2012 MacBook Pro with all these remarkable new features included.
Cant all those people dreaming of an ultra-thin design which would with all likelyhood remove all upgradability go to the air forum and dream there, since its actually an air they want, instead of worrying us over here at the Pro forum, where we want performance and upgradability and feel that the current design still holds up, reasonably. Ultra-thin scares me.
People really and i mean reallllly neglect the FACT that a slimmer design WILL make the macbook pro overheat (with a quad core processor) to the point that those extra power and graphic boost (offered by Ivy bridge) won't be there when you need them. When macs get hot, they throttle their cpu's and therefore cut away at that extra power to compensate for the overheating.
Please, unless apple has some new cooling technology i don't want to see a slimmer design k thanks
Please, unless apple has some new cooling technology i don't want to see a slimmer design k thanks
wont the SSD (smaller, no moving parts), no ODD (more internal space) less power consumption make a good 'heating' balance with (lets say) 2/10 less thicker MBP ?
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I agree. If they've axed the ODD and redesigned the body, I hope to hell that they had the foresight to leave enough space for a second 2.5" SSD or HDD in its place. If they haven't, it's a step back in my book. Note that I'm deliberately using the past tense here, because any new design will have no doubt already gone into production and be impossible to change now.
It shouldn't overheat if they build in a cooling system good enough to dissipate 45 W, thus matching or beating Intel's TDP. Even with all cores maxed out for several minutes, the CPU temperature should not exceed 90 degrees (Celsius), otherwise the cooling system is inadequate IMHO. There should be no throttling of the CPU at those temperatures. However, having said that, I agree with you about not making the enclosure too small. The smaller and thinner the enclosure, the smaller (and thus hotter) the heat sink will be, forcing the fans to run like crazy to keep up. For that reason, together with the retained expandability referred to above, I'd much prefer to see them keep (or only slightly reduce) the current thickness and put more effort into developing a more efficient and quieter cooling system.
Agreed. I have both an MBA and a MBP. I am looking at the side of my MBP and I cannot see how to make it thinner without losing the gigabit Ethernet and Firewire ports. These are ideas that scare me because using the USB-->Ethernet adaptor with my MBA is NOT a substitute for gigabit Ethernet. It is slow and uses a lot of CPU thanks to USB. Now, if Apple would release a thunderbolt dock with proper pass-through and with all of those ports that didn't cost $999 and wasn't so large, then it would be ok, but there is no such thing right now. I am not sure what the obsession is with my making the computer thinner. The MBP is already quite thin and removing the optical disk drive is not going to make it thinner.
Love that mock-up design, but it still has the ODD slot on the side
It's not an ODD slot. On the 13", it's a double PCMCIA slot for backward compatibility (Wi-Fi cards, ...). On the 17", it's a VHS player.
Peter.
A track pack that size would be horrible for users that rest their palms on the bezel there. We'd be contantly affecting things that we don't want moved, resized, etc...
I having a feeling that most likely the slim design that everyone is gossiping about is going to be a new 15in macbook air.
Granted the new macbook pro will get some great updates, but the design will probably stay the same.
Granted the new macbook pro will get some great updates, but the design will probably stay the same.
I'm looking to finally ditch Windows and get a MBP either this year or next. (Can't justify it until my current laptop is considerably more useless than it is at the moment).
If the next 15" Pro doesn't have a retina display (or at least a step towards it) then I can't see any reason to get one over the Oct 11 refresh.
I'd quite like to see a touchscreen design too, with OS X and iOS coming together, but that's less important. I know that a vertical touch screen is ergonomically terrible but I remember seeing a laptop design years ago where the screen could reverse to lie flat on the keyboard and create a tablet. Maybe Apple could do something like that.
If the next 15" Pro doesn't have a retina display (or at least a step towards it) then I can't see any reason to get one over the Oct 11 refresh.
I'd quite like to see a touchscreen design too, with OS X and iOS coming together, but that's less important. I know that a vertical touch screen is ergonomically terrible but I remember seeing a laptop design years ago where the screen could reverse to lie flat on the keyboard and create a tablet. Maybe Apple could do something like that.