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2012 Macbook Pro Redesign
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If they offered 8gb RAM as standard with Retina display. As much as the move would be rather annoying for me. I think it would offset it. 8gb Ram will give me 3 years which is the lifespan I normally have with laptops. Anything less and it would put me off completely.
The problem I have is though, I'm sure the Airs use an even lower processor (17W?) than even the 13" Pro. Is it not impossible to for Apple to introduce 'Air-like' Pros using the standard 35W/45W in the Air-like chassis?
If they solder on the ram making it non-upgradeable, I'll probably have to look elsewhere for a portable and powerful computer. I need at least 16gb for my work.
I wouldn't bother getting a 2011 one, what's the point? That'll be out of date sooner and once I need more power I'll be back to square one. Apple goes down a path they rarely reverse it meaning I'd always have to deal with a non upgradeable computer. Might as well jump ship sooner and get used to Windows which always have upgradeable hardware.
I really don't want to move to Windows, but getting the work done is more important than OS preference at the end of the day.
What about the current Sandy Bridge 2.8Ghz i7 being kept on as the base model, and the new 35W IB 2.1ghz quad core as the higher spec?
Back in 2010 the 13" had a C2D whilst other models were iX, so it's possible.
Back in 2010 the 13" had a C2D whilst other models were iX, so it's possible.
The only problem with this would be the lack of USB 3.0. But still not outside the realm of possibility. Nice upgrade incentive.
Makes sense. Although ivy also brings usb3 so Apple might not want to confuse customers with one model of the same size having different ports.
Chimera beat me to it
If apple indeed does remove the CD drive, would the resulting empty space allow for a dedicated graphics card to be put into place along with say more battery, so it doesn't last any shorter, and the gfx card to support a retina display?
It is getting tedious isn't it? Nut as we know, this is Apples' way of doing things...Could be next week, or next month...much of the speculation posted here will prove to be accurate in some way. We just have to wait. I'm sticking to my 17" like glue, if the model is discontinued I might be forced into looking for a large screen laptop elsewhere....I really hope that isn't the case.
They won't get rid of the 17. I think there are way too many people here that think Apple is going to make horrible moves, but based on their current success, I think they know what they are doing. If they cut the new Pros down to a thin design, they'll figure some way to keep AT LEAST the current specs in there. They're not going to downgrade, that's just dumb. Tech moves forward, and for the past decade it has been Apple at the forefront of that. So who's to say that they won't be the first manufacturer to completely replace HDD with SSD and still maintain current prices. Who's to say they won't offer retina displays on the Pros or even the Airs in the near future. If they want to get rid of the OD, I'm sure they've done enough research to lead them to believe that it won't be a big deal and will benefit them in the long run. I bet there were people complaining when eight-tracks were discontinued. There are going to be people complaining when CD players are gone. I trust Apple. All I want is for them to release the 15 already so I can get my hands on it!
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Another random thought, what if they got rid of the bezel, managed to squeeze out another inch of screen real estate, and decided to merge the 15" and 17" versions into a 16" inch variant (which, for all intents and purposes, remains the same size as the 15" MBP?)
In all fairness, I don't recall what the 15" looks like upfront, so I am not sure if this is physically possible, but would 17" users be willing to settle for a compromise here, or will they remain adamant about that extra inch?
In all fairness, I don't recall what the 15" looks like upfront, so I am not sure if this is physically possible, but would 17" users be willing to settle for a compromise here, or will they remain adamant about that extra inch?
Another random thought, what if they got rid of the bezel, managed to squeeze out another inch of screen real estate, and decided to merge the 15" and 17" versions into a 16" inch variant (which, for all intents and purposes, remains the same size as the 15" MBP?)
In all fairness, I don't recall what the 15" looks like upfront, so I am not sure if this is physically possible, but would 17" users be willing to settle for a compromise here, or will they remain adamant about that extra inch?
I think the thing with that is that the body of the 17 is large enough to support more higher end options. Not to sure about that though. I do think the bezels on the 15 are pretty thin as it is for a laptop, and you have to remember that there needs to be space at the top for a camera.
My comment was mostly pertaining to whether the suspected quad core Ivy Bridge processors to be used in the 15" can support 32gb RAM. I figured asking an open-ended question would yield more responses but I guess I was mistaken.
Why did you suddenly decide to give up on the 2012? Its getting so close to the refresh!
Oh, well, I don't know about that, but do you think you'd be able to notice much of a difference between 16gb and 32gb? I've heard from many that even the difference between 8gb and 16gb isn't much.
There's always a better machine around the corner.
And Apple could merge the Macbook Pros with the Airs
There's always a better machine around the corner.
And Apple could merge the Macbook Pros with the Airs
What if the 15" became the 16" with no bezel and the 17" became the 18" with no bezel!!!! this would be awesome! both with quad core with a big power difference over the airs,,, i think this would surely draw a great significant line between the airs and the pros!! Please apple. show us some love.
There's always a better machine around the corner.
And Apple could merge the Macbook Pros with the Airs
But you were waiting for months. You are better off waiting, especially at this point when the new ones are coming really soon. Honestly the late 2011 didn't count as a refresh. Apple didn't even acknowledge it.
Its just a rumor and I really doubt that would happen.
I think this is very unlikely, because the Airs are based on ultra low voltage (ULV) processors (17W TDP), whereas the Pros are based on the regular low voltage processors (35/45W TDP).And Apple could merge the Macbook Pros with the Airs
I cannot see Apple being a company that only releases notebooks based on ULV processors, and the option of them abandoning the ULV market to the Ultrabook-based competition is inconceivable. The only remaining option, namely a single product line based on a mixture of ULV and LV (e.g., ULV-based 13" model, then 15" LV model) would face the severe technical challenge of having to suddenly cope with 2 - 3 times the heat in a cramped enclosure of the same form but only slightly larger dimensions.
BTW, for what it's worth, I'm expecting the new MBPs in June and the MBAs around late July/August (i.e., approx. ML time)
Don't do it. Just hold on. This is a big upgrade to the mbp line even if it doesn't get a redesign. Just wait it out. You won't regret it.There's always a better machine around the corner.
And Apple could merge the Macbook Pros with the Airs
I just dont see Apple going in the route that some of the doomsday people are implying, I cant see a merge being good for overall business. Id say an added 15" Air in addition to a nice refresh on the Pro side would be more beneficial. I can see them gaining some people whod care for a large ultrabook with the high quality that Apple always delivers. However I see even more people being forced to look at other options, because Apple no longer can deliver the performance needed, and cant deliver the upgradability needed for sustained performance.
I just cant see Apple going that route, I cant see that being good for business. Theres a hell of a difference between a 1.8-2GHz dual core and a 2.5-2.8 quad core that will matter alot to some people, taking aside how many of us actually want and need the gpu power that Intel HD 4000, however awesomely improved it might be, just will not cover.
I just cant see Apple going that route, I cant see that being good for business. Theres a hell of a difference between a 1.8-2GHz dual core and a 2.5-2.8 quad core that will matter alot to some people, taking aside how many of us actually want and need the gpu power that Intel HD 4000, however awesomely improved it might be, just will not cover.
Hoping the ODD is Removed
I haven't read the whole thread, so forgive me, but is there anyone else who is truly excited about the ODD finally being removed? I almost NEVER use mine and it seems like a good compromise to have an external thunderbolt version if there is really a small niche that still requires it.
What would Apple do with the space savings? My thought is probably a larger battery because they always seem to replace space with battery life but I guess we could also see a SSD/HDD being provided the space. To be honest, I would absolutely love iMac like specifications in a MacBook Pro some day and so I would love to see a top end MacBook Pro equal a top end iMac if that were ever possible.
I'm not the most technical guy so forgive my dream list above.
Cheers,
Rilely
I haven't read the whole thread, so forgive me, but is there anyone else who is truly excited about the ODD finally being removed? I almost NEVER use mine and it seems like a good compromise to have an external thunderbolt version if there is really a small niche that still requires it.
What would Apple do with the space savings? My thought is probably a larger battery because they always seem to replace space with battery life but I guess we could also see a SSD/HDD being provided the space. To be honest, I would absolutely love iMac like specifications in a MacBook Pro some day and so I would love to see a top end MacBook Pro equal a top end iMac if that were ever possible.
I'm not the most technical guy so forgive my dream list above.
Cheers,
Rilely