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I love speculating about new Apple products, but i'm starting to think that the next MBP update will just be a Ivy-Bridge spec bump, heres why;

1. Lack of rumours/part leaks etc..

2. Apple tends to only overhaul the appearance of a product when there have not been major technological advancements in order to keep sales at a steady high. Ivy-Bridge is supposed to be far more powerful and efficient therefore they will coast of the performance of the new chipset as opposed to increasing sales by redesigning the look of the chassis.

Just my two cents

That first point is really what's making me agree with you on this (although it's not the popular opinion). I know there is still time until the release (if we are guessing correctly about June), so maybe some parts will leak soon, but I would've expected something by now.
 
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Samsung Upgrades Series 7 Notebook with Ivy Bridge


http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/pc-peripherals/notebook-computers/high-performance/NP700G7C-S01UK

First and foremost, the Series 7 is a 17.3-inch laptop wrapped in a sleek and skinny aluminum shell. It features an LED-backlit display with a

- Full HD 1920x1080
- Intel Core i7 3615QM processor clocked at 2.3GHz,
- 8GB DDR3 memory,
- NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M GPU (Kepler) with 2GB GDDR5 memory
- 1TB hard drive,
- slot-loading DVD burner
- 2 x USB 3.0 ports
- $1,500 MSRP.
 
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If this thing gets launched in June like it appears to be atm, I don't think Apple are just going to launch a spec bump at a conference.

I also think the reason why we have not seen any leaked parts yet is down to the fact Apple has learnt a bit of a lesson after the iPhone 4 fiasco and battened down the hatches.
It's a new design and they don't want it leaked.
You may say why have we been seeing leaked parts for the new iPad... Well I don't think they were as fussed with that due to fact it was basically the same as the iPad 2.

Im hoping the prices stay the same however because atm I can only afford the higher end MBP 13" on finance so waiting on a new one is bugging me. If the price goes up then im screwed for a while longer
 
Here are some links which are nice to look at and let your imagination fly.

http://gizmodo.com/5904970/will-apples-wwdc-bring-the-next-generation-macbook-pro

This ones gives a nice mock-up of the macbook pro and says it will shown in the WWDC. I personally hope it comes earlier than that (try to be optimistic and think that it will come out today - I've been since february waiting for the new mac and for 6months using a 9inch windows computer since my MBP 2009 broke:( )

http://www.macdaddynews.com/2012/02/11/rumor-new-macbook-pro-design-coming-this-year/

This one is an older article and talks about the MBA-like looking that the upcoming MBP will have.

Crossing fingers so we see the computer soon! :)
 
Samsung Upgrades Series 7 Notebook with Ivy Bridge
... is a 17.3-inch laptop wrapped in a sleek and skinny aluminum shell.
... and weighing a whopping 3.81 Kg (ouch!).

BTW, if I the skimmed over the information correctly, it supports Blu-Ray (not just DVD). It also has big vents at the back, which is what I would expect from a gaming "laptop".

The latter is IMHO a big practical advantage over the MBP. The MBP hasn't done well in many of the reviews I've seen from a heat and noise standpoint. Other manufacturers, which have fewer (or no) qualms about building in clearly visible intake and exhaust vents are obviously at an advantage here. This is also borne out by reports from several users relating to how they managed to reduce the operating temperatures significantly by drilling a few well-placed holes in the casing.

Assuming that (clearly) visible vents remain an apparent taboo for Apple, there are several possible shimmers of light on the horizon in the temperature/noise stakes, should Apple elect to go that way.

Firstly, Ivy Bridge runs significantly more (power) efficiently that Sandy Bridge. This may make the new MBPs quieter than the existing models for fixed workloads (e.g., playing YouTube videos or running high resolution external monitors). However, Intel has left the TDPs for the mobile CPUs unchanged with respect to Sandy Bridge, so if the CPU/GPU are maxed out, the noise levels would not be expected to change significantly (all other things being equal that is, which they most probably won't be :)).

Secondly, as has been much-discussed, they could remove the ODD. This would improve the air flow and increase the effective internal volume of the enclosure to the extent that the cooling may even be more effective even if the external dimensions are reduced (which would then be very likely).

Thirdly, they could go over to using mSATA SSD modules, such as those used on the Air. It seems that these are becoming more popular, with several new manufacturers jumping on the band wagon (e.g., Samsung, with the PM830). However, unlike with the the Air, I would strongly argue that the MBP should then support two such modules, to allow users to buy in to the MBP line relatively cheaply and upgrade by adding a second SSD module later. As with removal of the ODD, using mSATA SSDs would increase the effective internal volume of the enclosure and improve air flow.

Fourthly, Apple could make use of configurable TDP, which would allow air intake from unreliable sources. For example, if some of the air intake is designed to come via the keyboard and/or from the ports on the side of the casing, then the TDP could be automatically reduced to prevent overheating if the MBP is used in clamshell mode or if the relevant ports are occupied. Maybe the end user will also be able to reduce the TDP manually. There are probably many users out there who would often elect to sacrifice (say) 5% performance by running their 15" or 17" MBP at 35W TDP instead of the usual 45W in order to significantly reduce fan noise.

In any case, it's going to be interesting in the next few weeks to see which road Apple has chosen to go down. Hopefully, they won't disappoint us again and just give us a spec bump. :(
 
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Dell Alienware new IB line :

http://www.alienware.com/Landings/laptops.aspx

Samsung Upgrades Series 7 Notebook with Ivy Bridge


http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/pc-peripherals/notebook-computers/high-performance/NP700G7C-S01UK

First and foremost, the Series 7 is a 17.3-inch laptop wrapped in a sleek and skinny aluminum shell. It features an LED-backlit display with a

- Full HD 1920x1080
- Intel Core i7 3615QM processor clocked at 2.3GHz,
- 8GB DDR3 memory,
- NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M GPU (Kepler) with 2GB GDDR5 memory
- 1TB hard drive,
- slot-loading DVD burner
- 2 x USB 3.0 ports
- $1,500 MSRP.
The words "sleek" and "skinny" cannot be used to describe a laptop that weighs 8.39 lbs. That thing is huge and ugly.
 
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Perhaps it will be - just like 4gb was standard in some Windows machines before Apple adopted it in mid-2010.

I don't think it will be the Apple standard in the next 3 years.

Apple love making people pay up to $300 for memory upgrades. Let's think about it from a corporate POV and not a consumer one. Why would they upgrade the specs to 8gb standard and keep the same price point when they can charge you through the nose for it as an upgrade? They wouldn't.

Software changes, the way people interact with their computers changes - I just don't think it will change enough in the next 3 years to warrant a free bump to 8gb from Apple.

8 GB will become standard in Macs when it becomes standard in PCs.

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I love speculating about new Apple products, but i'm starting to think that the next MBP update will just be a Ivy-Bridge spec bump, heres why;

1. Lack of rumours/part leaks etc..
2. Apple tends to only overhaul the appearance of a product when there have not been major technological advancements in order to keep sales at a steady high. Ivy-Bridge is supposed to be far more powerful and efficient therefore they will coast of the performance of the new chipset as opposed to increasing sales by redesigning the look of the chassis.

Just my two cents

1. There are some rumors. No part leaks so far. If rumors/part leaks begin to appear in May, then a refresh in June is highly likely.

2. Ivy Bridge will not be far more powerful and efficient than Sandy Bridge. In fact, it's just the 22nm die shrink of Sandy Bridge. Of course it will be more powerful and efficient than Sandy Bridge, but that's the way things are supposed to work. Every year Intel releases a new product, and the launch of Sandy Bridge represented a bigger technological jump than the launch of Ivy Bridge. CPU performance is only marginally better; the difference will be in GPU performance.
 
Here are some links which are nice to look at and let your imagination fly.

http://gizmodo.com/5904970/will-apples-wwdc-bring-the-next-generation-macbook-pro

This ones gives a nice mock-up of the macbook pro and says it will shown in the WWDC. I personally hope it comes earlier than that (try to be optimistic and think that it will come out today - I've been since february waiting for the new mac and for 6months using a 9inch windows computer since my MBP 2009 broke:( )

http://www.macdaddynews.com/2012/02/11/rumor-new-macbook-pro-design-coming-this-year/

This one is an older article and talks about the MBA-like looking that the upcoming MBP will have.

Crossing fingers so we see the computer soon! :)

That samsung actually looks pretty slick. I'm ready to buy a notebook now, but I know I'll regret it when the macbooks finally come out, so I guess I'll continue to wait impatiently. Hopefully they won't disappoint. :)
 
If you check the Buyer's Guide you will notice that every single Mac is due to an update sooner than the Macbook Pro:

The Mac Pro hasn't been updated in 644 days. Avg is 348. (296 days behind)
The iMac hasn't been updated in 364 days. Avg is 273. (109 days behind)
The Macbook Air hasn't been updated in 286 days. Avg is 321. (35 days left)
The Mac Mini hasn't been updated in 286 days. Avg is 356. (70 days left)
The Macbook Pro hasn't been updated in 190 days. Avg is 267. (77 days left)


Averages themselves mean little on the whole. The buyer's guide does not take into account the fact said supplier has been slow or fast in handing out components. However, the Buyer's guide does allow us to realize a number of things:

a) The MBP isn't that likely to be the next Mac being refreshed. Next "Apple store is down!" notice you see, don't get all excited yet. Considering Apple's relationship with the Mac Pro, if such notice happened this month I'd bet on either an iMac refresh or an iMac + Mac Mini refresh (last Mac Mini's refresh was a conjointed one with the Macbook Air; this time they won't have the mobile dual core chipsets for the MBA until June)

b) The MBA is due to an update sooner than the MBP, and MBAs require Ivy Bridge dual core chipsets. Thus, if Apple follows the order we'll see the MBP udpate only after June 5th, the day when Ivy Bridge dual core chipsets are available. (if Apple doesn't follow this, then the 13" MBP could arguably still use 35W quad cores and get updated before)

c) All the Mac line is in a need for an update. While I know this is seriously unlikely, it does raise an hypothesis: WWDC Massive Mac Revamp everyone?
 
I think most people are not considering the October 2011 as much of an update, since it was basically a tiny bit higher CPU speed and updated GPU, which isn't much considering the MBP had been out for 8 months at that point.
 
I think most people are not considering the October 2011 as much of an update, since it was basically a tiny bit higher CPU speed and updated GPU, which isn't much considering the MBP had been out for 8 months at that point.

Yet every bump is considered an update by the Buyer's Guides, and if you check it thoroughly, even besides small exceptions, updates are pretty regular. Meaning that Apple must consider that an update as well.
 
I personally think that there will not be a major redesign, but perhaps just using lighter materials and making the MPBs thinner. I am most likely going to be wrong but this is what I think the line-up will be like:

11" and 13" MBA - New dual cores, 11" will have 4GB ram and 128GB SSD as standard. 13" will remain as it is, perhaps a 512GB SSD and 8GB ram option will be added. If a 15" MBA is produced then it will have a quad core processor, dedicated graphics, 4GB ram and 256GB SSD as standard (again, 8GB ram and 512GB SSD as an option). 15" can have a 1900x1200 resolution antiglare screen.

15" and 17" MBP - New quad cores and upgraded graphics, ODD will go - perhaps a HDD+SSD combo (set-up like the iMac) and larger battery in its place. 8GB ram as standard, and have 4 slots, allowing support up to 32GB ram. 15" will have 1900x1200 resolution screen as standard. 17" could have a larger keyboard with a numerical pad put in.

13" MBP is tricky... If they don't axe it (which is unlikely to happen) then Pro will be removed from name and so will just be called MacBook. Will have a new dual core processor, 4GB ram as standard like it is now and use integrated graphics, but the ram won't be soldered on so it can be upgraded if needed. Upgraded screen resolution to 1600x900 with antiglare option. 750GB-7200rpm HDD standard, with SSD option. ODD may remain... if not then a larger battery will be put in its place. This will be mainly targeted at students and schools as it differentiates from the 15" and 17" MBP and is cheaper than the MBAs.

All laptops will have USB 3.0 capability.

I'm not very advanced with computers so I'm sorry if this seems a bit unrealistic/ stupid.
 

Interesting enough but highly unlikely. Having the two drive bays aligned together on one side would be unpractical; 1) heat and noise - if one decides to swap out whatever it comes with and installs two 7200RPM drives (i.e. for a RAID 0 setup), the heat and noise generated from that one side would be more than noticeable, 2) no access to ports on that side from logic board- leaves the entire side of where the ODD slot would've been blank (no space to put more USB/TB ports). I would love for the new MBP to have two slots as standard (without getting an adapter), that way I could risk setting up RAID 0 with two SSDs without having to worry about my warranty being voided ;)

Thought of it for a while and I agree with some of you saying that there would be "slight" redesign that is thinner but not a "hybrid" between the Pro and Air lines. I was highly anticipating (and hoping) that the new MBP would have an entire overhaul but at this point, I'd much rather see something like the mock-up posted on Pg 82/83-ish (slightly thinner but still retaining all ports desired by the consumers) with a significant CPU and GPU bump.

Also, not to be picky or anything, why don't people take the time to read the posts on the most recent pages before posting? I mean yes, this forum is all for the rumors but still, doesn't mean that everyone should be asking and answering the same exact questions over and over. Having to check this forum through my phone for the most up-to-date rumors but seeing the same things being repeated is getting boring and sickening. Mind as well subscribe to something like Digitimes for more "accurate" predictions :) thank you
 
If you check the Buyer's Guide you will notice that every single Mac is due to an update sooner than the Macbook Pro:

The Mac Pro hasn't been updated in 644 days. Avg is 348. (296 days behind)
The iMac hasn't been updated in 364 days. Avg is 273. (109 days behind)
The Macbook Air hasn't been updated in 286 days. Avg is 321. (35 days left)
The Mac Mini hasn't been updated in 286 days. Avg is 356. (70 days left)
The Macbook Pro hasn't been updated in 190 days. Avg is 267. (77 days left)


Averages themselves mean little on the whole. The buyer's guide does not take into account the fact said supplier has been slow or fast in handing out components. However, the Buyer's guide does allow us to realize a number of things:

a) The MBP isn't that likely to be the next Mac being refreshed. Next "Apple store is down!" notice you see, don't get all excited yet. Considering Apple's relationship with the Mac Pro, if such notice happened this month I'd bet on either an iMac refresh or an iMac + Mac Mini refresh (last Mac Mini's refresh was a conjointed one with the Macbook Air; this time they won't have the mobile dual core chipsets for the MBA until June)

b) The MBA is due to an update sooner than the MBP, and MBAs require Ivy Bridge dual core chipsets. Thus, if Apple follows the order we'll see the MBP udpate only after June 5th, the day when Ivy Bridge dual core chipsets are available. (if Apple doesn't follow this, then the 13" MBP could arguably still use 35W quad cores and get updated before)

c) All the Mac line is in a need for an update. While I know this is seriously unlikely, it does raise an hypothesis: WWDC Massive Mac Revamp everyone?

a) Totally agree. The iMac could get a refresh anytime now that the Ivy Bridge desktop processors are out, and it's been almost a year.

b) Yes. The MacBook Air could get a refresh in June when laptop Ivy Bridges come out, and the MacBook Pro may take even longer to be updated.

c) I wouldn't bet in that.
 
I have been waiting for the redesign since September of last year and was disappointed with the spec bump they did in October. So I decided to wait till the expected April redesign and then was disappointed again. We are most likely a month away from what we all have been waiting for but I honestly have started to feel burnt out on this whole process and feel as if I am being jerked around. Does anyone also feel this way, or am I just being a whinny b**ch?:(
 
I personally think that there will not be a major redesign, but perhaps just using lighter materials and making the MPBs thinner. I am most likely going to be wrong but this is what I think the line-up will be like:

11" and 13" MBA - New dual cores, 11" will have 4GB ram and 128GB SSD as standard. 13" will remain as it is, perhaps a 512GB SSD and 8GB ram option will be added. If a 15" MBA is produced then it will have a quad core processor, dedicated graphics, 4GB ram and 256GB SSD as standard (again, 8GB ram and 512GB SSD as an option). 15" can have a 1900x1200 resolution antiglare screen.

15" and 17" MBP - New quad cores and upgraded graphics, ODD will go - perhaps a HDD+SSD combo (set-up like the iMac) and larger battery in its place. 8GB ram as standard, and have 4 slots, allowing support up to 32GB ram. 15" will have 1900x1200 resolution screen as standard. 17" could have a larger keyboard with a numerical pad put in.

13" MBP is tricky... If they don't axe it (which is unlikely to happen) then Pro will be removed from name and so will just be called MacBook. Will have a new dual core processor, 4GB ram as standard like it is now and use integrated graphics, but the ram won't be soldered on so it can be upgraded if needed. Upgraded screen resolution to 1600x900 with antiglare option. 750GB-7200rpm HDD standard, with SSD option. ODD may remain... if not then a larger battery will be put in its place. This will be mainly targeted at students and schools as it differentiates from the 15" and 17" MBP and is cheaper than the MBAs.

All laptops will have USB 3.0 capability.

I'm not very advanced with computers so I'm sorry if this seems a bit unrealistic/ stupid.

Well, I don't see it happening, and let me explain why:

1. A 15" MacBook Air will probably not get a quad-core processor. The 11" and 13" MacBook Airs have 17W TDP dual-cores, and all Ivy Bridge quad-cores have a TDP of 35W (at least).

2. A 15" MacBook Air will definitely not get a dedicated video card. It would be too much heat for a thin laptop.

3. A SDD+HDD combo, although possible, is unlikely for any MacBook; Apple doesn't seem to work that way.

4. 8 GB RAM as standard for the 15" and 17" models is unlikely.

5. Numerical pad in the 17" is not going to happen. Apple removed it from the iMac keyboard, it won't include it in the 17" MacBook Pro.

6. Apple is not going to axe the 13" MacBook Pro for one single reason: it is currently their best-selling Mac computer. The "Pro" is not likely to go way from its name.

7. The 13" MacBook Pro will not get a 1600x900 resolution. Apple will adopt retina displays for its laptops sooner or later. It won't just bump the resolution like this. The 13" MacBook Pro will probably keep its 1280x800 resolution or it will get a 2560x1600 resolution (or another resolution set for retina displays).
 
I'm sure they will ditch the ethernet/ODD if it means better form

I hope there is a new design unless they ignore it like the iMacs. I'm waiting to buy since last year!

Yet all those who say they can't make it thinner due to the ethernet port....you don't think that apple would sacrifice that and make a thunderbolt to ethernet or other connection that would allow you to still use it if needed?

Not everyone needs it, just like the ODD, so I would imagine Apple would sacrifice these and use attachment options (external ODD, small converter cable) in order to create a new, fresh macbook pro that would sell....and still get the SMALL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT NEED THESE OPTIONS COMPARED TO THE MASSES....

Just as they did with the ipad, using cables/media kits through the standard connection and not sacrificing the form of the ipad for USB, SD card, etc....
 
Well, I don't see it happening, and let me explain why:

1. A 15" MacBook Air will probably not get a quad-core processor. The 11" and 13" MacBook Airs have 17W TDP dual-cores, and all Ivy Bridge quad-cores have a TDP of 35W (at least).

2. A 15" MacBook Air will definitely not get a dedicated video card. It would be too much heat for a thin laptop.

3. A SDD+HDD combo, although possible, is unlikely for any MacBook; Apple doesn't seem to work that way.

4. 8 GB RAM as standard for the 15" and 17" models is unlikely.

5. Numerical pad in the 17" is not going to happen. Apple removed it from the iMac keyboard, it won't include it in the 17" MacBook Pro.

6. Apple is not going to axe the 13" MacBook Pro for one single reason: it is currently their best-selling Mac computer. The "Pro" is not likely to go way from its name.

7. The 13" MacBook Pro will not get a 1600x900 resolution. Apple will adopt retina displays for its laptops sooner or later. It won't just bump the resolution like this. The 13" MacBook Pro will probably keep its 1280x800 resolution or it will get a 2560x1600 resolution (or another resolution set for retina displays).

Ok, well thanks for not being harsh against what I said, I just thought that would be a pretty cool line up haha. I'm happy with my MBP 13 (can't afford to upgrade really) so the refresh doesn't really bother me. Hoping to get another 5 years out of mine.
 
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