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2014-15 NFL season thread

bigjnyc said:
I've heard this before

Brady and the Pats won't lose to the Giants in the Super Bowl

Ok for real this this time Brady and the the pats won't lose to the Giants in the Super Bowl


:D
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They will probably lose to the Lions, Cardinals, or Packers in the Super Bowl if past history is any indication in the past ten years.

The Pats have made a bad habit of losing against teams we all thought they would beat in big postseason games. But this year can be his last realistic year to shake that (big game loss) monkey off his back and it would be nice to see Pats beat Green Bay for the loss they had earlier this season. Beating Green Bay would also pit the older Tom Brady against the highest rated QB in the history's sport.

Yesterday I was talking to a former assistant coach from Michigan State and he said a great way to end this would be for Brady to win the Super Bowl, ride off into sunset like a John Elway, get an offensive coordinator job at University of Michigan, and then eventually become head coach and win a couple of national titles. He's not only a great player but he knows the game like many a former player turned winning coach. Brady is like a god in that state and would pay him anything he asks if he were to head up Michigan. I would like to see something like this, too even though Pats or Michigan aren't my teams.

The great ones always leave on top where everybody thinks they still had another title left in them. There was so much talk about Elway and a threepeat with Denver but father time would have most likely embarrassed him in his late 30s instead of rewarded him had he gone another season or two. Elway came out with last pro football game a Super Bowl win and this will be what he's remembered for forever.
 
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aaronvan said:
I'd be surprised if Brady's wife would move to Ann Arbor. Or East Lansing for that matter.
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Brady's full time home is just south of San Francisco, right? (where he grew up and is a very nice, temperate place). I don't think it ever gets very hot and certainly not very cold. Burlingame, Palo Alto, and other such areas are very, very nice. Steve Jobs had a nice house in region, too btw.

I haven't been to Michigan and I don't know the weather. I was surprised that the school had almost endless pockets but my Michigan State friend said if Michigan wanted, they could match any pro football head coach salary offer.

I don't follow college football so I was surprised at the money that's there for a non-pro sport.

On another topic, can't someone like Michigan raid Alabama and get Saban.
 
63dot said:
Brady's full time home is just south of San Francisco, right? (where he grew up and is a very nice, temperate place). I don't think it ever gets very hot and certainly not very cold. Burlingame, Palo Alto, and other such areas are very, very nice. Steve Jobs had a nice house in region, too btw.

I haven't been to Michigan and I don't know the weather. I was surprised that the school had almost endless pockets but my Michigan State friend said if Michigan wanted, they could match any pro football head coach salary offer.

I don't follow college football so I was surprised at the money that's there for a non-pro sport.

On another topic, can't someone like Michigan raid Alabama and get Saban.
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universities these days have butt loads of money. They are cash cow diploma mills.
 
63dot said:
Brady's full time home is just south of San Francisco, right? (where he grew up and is a very nice, temperate place). I don't think it ever gets very hot and certainly not very cold. Burlingame, Palo Alto, and other such areas are very, very nice. Steve Jobs had a nice house in region, too btw.

I haven't been to Michigan and I don't know the weather. I was surprised that the school had almost endless pockets but my Michigan State friend said if Michigan wanted, they could match any pro football head coach salary offer.

I don't follow college football so I was surprised at the money that's there for a non-pro sport.

On another topic, can't someone like Michigan raid Alabama and get Saban.
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all right dot.

u don't know michigan's weather? dude.

ok, imma go along and pretend you don't know, they get tons of snow! they are up north!

i'm sure alabama has enough money and sunshine and beaches, i.e. gulf shores, to keep him well away from the great white north. plus, and here we go again, right now it is all about playing in the SEC. granted the other big conferences have their big teams but the allure of the SEC... it is the conference.


i'm not trying to debate anyone about college football. i won't be lured in. even the television heads on every other channel agree. i will say it has shifted a bit and that some of the other big conferences have gotten their stuff together.


also i haven't read anything above this one post by dot. imma go back now and read...

a supermodel living in east lansing... not bloody likely. but who knows. anything is possible.

brady is from san mateo, no?

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Sydde said:
Kind of not important, neither of those two will be available to play in the pro bowl.
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he he he.. they play that game first now don't they?
 
63dot said:
Brady's full time home is just south of San Francisco, right? (where he grew up and is a very nice, temperate place). I don't think it ever gets very hot and certainly not very cold. Burlingame, Palo Alto, and other such areas are very, very nice. Steve Jobs had a nice house in region, too btw.

I haven't been to Michigan and I don't know the weather. I was surprised that the school had almost endless pockets but my Michigan State friend said if Michigan wanted, they could match any pro football head coach salary offer.

I don't follow college football so I was surprised at the money that's there for a non-pro sport.

On another topic, can't someone like Michigan raid Alabama and get Saban.
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Michigan's endowment is like 8 or 9 billion dollars. It's a big-time university.

Sometimes people perceive how well a school is academically by it's sports teams, such as Alabama.

The reason Saban wouldn't go to Michigan is because in football terms, it's not a step up. It would be a slight step-below, and he's got a great situation at Alabama.

But yeah, Michigan can buy anybody they want. I think they'll get the 49ers coach. Why would you want to coach Oakland?
 
pachyderm said:
all right dot.

u don't know michigan's weather? dude.

ok, imma go along and pretend you don't know, they get tons of snow! they are up north!

i'm sure alabama has enough money and sunshine and beaches, i.e. gulf shores, to keep him well away from the great white north. plus, and here we go again, right now it is all about playing in the SEC. granted the other big conferences have their big teams but the allure of the SEC... it is the conference.


i'm not trying to debate anyone about college football. i won't be lured in. even the television heads on every other channel agree. i will say it has shifted a bit and that some of the other big conferences have gotten their stuff together.


also i haven't read anything above this one post by dot. imma go back now and read...

a supermodel living in east lansing... not bloody likely. but who knows. anything is possible.

brady is from san mateo, no?

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he he he.. they play that game first now don't they?
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With their endowment (above post) Michigan can buy the sun and place it to shine any way they want in Michigan to keep Giselle Bundchen happy. The stories my coach friend told me are amazing about how they recruit. I guess if college games bring in pro type money, there's going to be a lot of cash being flaunted, because, well, just because! ;)
 
If you're perceiving a school's academics based on sports teams, you definitely didn't go to a good college. Michigan is a public ivy league school. It's academics are amongst the best in the WORLD. the big 10 has many such schools. The sec is a joke academically by comparison.
 
Brady will do the same thing Elway did. Retire for a couple of years while traveling the world with his model wife then go back to their main home in S.F.

Since Harbaugh is probably gonna go to the wolves I'm gonna say Brady will sit out a few years then get some sort of job with the Patriots.
 
smallcoffee said:
But yeah, Michigan can buy anybody they want. I think they'll get the 49ers coach. Why would you want to coach Oakland?
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Doesn't matter how bad Oakland is, it's still the NFL. It's not like Michigan has been doing great things the last 2-3 years. The only thing both the Raiders and Wolverines have in common is their rich football history. At the end of the day, most coaches work to coach in the NFL. Rarely do you see a NFL caliber coach go back to college ball - that only happens if one, you're just not fit to be an NFL coach (Nick Saban) or two, you get up there in age where you just can't handle workload that comes with being a NFL coach.

Jim Harbaugh is clearly fit to be an NFL coach and while Stanford didn't win the BCS, winning the Orange bowl is still a success so there really isn't anything to prove unless Jim Harbaugh really, really wants to win the BCS.

The way I see it is, if you need to put in work anyway, just stick with the Raiders. Derek Carr looks promising and Harbaugh can coach up QB's.
 
iLog.Genius said:
Doesn't matter how bad Oakland is, it's still the NFL. It's not like Michigan has been doing great things the last 2-3 years. The only thing both the Raiders and Wolverines have in common is their rich football history. At the end of the day, most coaches work to coach in the NFL. Rarely do you see a NFL caliber coach go back to college ball - that only happens if one, you're just not fit to be an NFL coach (Nick Saban) or two, you get up there in age where you just can't handle workload that comes with being a NFL coach.

Jim Harbaugh is clearly fit to be an NFL coach and while Stanford didn't win the BCS, winning the Orange bowl is still a success so there really isn't anything to prove unless Jim Harbaugh really, really wants to win the BCS.

The way I see it is, if you need to put in work anyway, just stick with the Raiders. Derek Carr looks promising and Harbaugh can coach up QB's.
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That's certainly the popular mantra, but I disagree when it comes to the big time college jobs, which Michigan happens to be. There is also the money, and the fact that it is the raiders. Coaching that team essentially means he's got to build an entire roster, draft players, etc, and at best would make a .500 team in a couple of years, and probably be fired again while losing the Michigan opportunity. It's a tall order and I don't think the reward is there. What maybe he wins a super bowl in 5 years? Is he really going to turn around the awful raiders? I very much doubt it.

It is just too good of an opportunity to pass up. Despite Michigan blowing the last few years, it is a gigantic university with big-time national presence. revitalizing that program would make him a hero, basically, for Michigan fans. It's not just about winning championships. It's about building an enduring legacy. That's why people take those jobs. You couldn't throw enough money at Saban to leave because he wants to be a history maker at Alabama. It's why Meyer went to Ohio State after quitting Florida. This is an exception to the "stay NFL" rule without doubt. Seriously don't be surprised if he takes it.
 
einmusiker said:
I honestly don't even know who the current Raiders coach is (yeah I know I could do a google search, but I'm not even that interested). I definitely know who coached Michigan this year
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as a raider fan even i'm not interested!

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einmusiker said:
If you're perceiving a school's academics based on sports teams, you definitely didn't go to a good college. Michigan is a public ivy league school. It's academics are amongst the best in the WORLD. the big 10 has many such schools. The sec is a joke academically by comparison.
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to bad they don't play the games in the classroom...


and for the record i have never heard anything but good about them academically...


that said, did someone knock them academically?
 
pachyderm said:
as a raider fan even i'm not interested!

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to bad they don't play the games in the classroom...


and for the record i have never heard anything but good about them academically...


that said, did someone knock them academically?
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the SEC??? I mean it's pretty much known the only SEC school with a great academic reputation is UF

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pachyderm said:


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to bad they don't play the games in the classroom...
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maybe but universities do not function as semi-pro athletic institutions. Their function is academics
 
smallcoffee said:
That's certainly the popular mantra, but I disagree when it comes to the big time college jobs, which Michigan happens to be. There is also the money, and the fact that it is the raiders. Coaching that team essentially means he's got to build an entire roster, draft players, etc, and at best would make a .500 team in a couple of years, and probably be fired again while losing the Michigan opportunity. It's a tall order and I don't think the reward is there. What maybe he wins a super bowl in 5 years? Is he really going to turn around the awful raiders? I very much doubt it.

It is just too good of an opportunity to pass up. Despite Michigan blowing the last few years, it is a gigantic university with big-time national presence. revitalizing that program would make him a hero, basically, for Michigan fans. It's not just about winning championships. It's about building an enduring legacy. That's why people take those jobs. You couldn't throw enough money at Saban to leave because he wants to be a history maker at Alabama. It's why Meyer went to Ohio State after quitting Florida. This is an exception to the "stay NFL" rule without doubt. Seriously don't be surprised if he takes it.
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It's Michigan, a division I school so I wouldn't be surprised if Harbaugh did take it.

If it isn't about winning championships and it's about building a legacy, Harbaugh would have stayed at Stanford - he basically built that 11-1 team from nothing to win the Orange Bowl. Not all coaches are the same but Harbaugh, given his record with the 49ers, was made to coach in the NFL.

You're right though, there's probably better job security with Michigan, AD will keep you around vs. the NFL which is basically demands success right away but like I said earlier, work needs to be put in for both teams. While bringing Michigan back to a NCAAF powerhouse would be significant, imagine what brining the Raiders back to relevance would do/mean.
 
iLog.Genius said:
Doesn't matter how bad Oakland is, it's still the NFL. It's not like Michigan has been doing great things the last 2-3 years.
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The big difference is that the Raiders are so dysfunctional from the top down, that no one has any success at all.

I think he would have more success at Michigan because he'll have much more say on player selection, and leeway in working with the kids. That is, he's shown to be able to cultivate and grow the student athletes getting the most out them.

In the NFL, he has not endeared himself to a number of athletes in the locker room. While winning some of that has been swept under the rug, now they they have stubbled, there's a lot more divisiveness in the locker room.

My uneducated opinion is Harbaugh would be better off at Michigan
 
iLog.Genius said:
It's Michigan, a division I school so I wouldn't be surprised if Harbaugh did take it.

If it isn't about winning championships and it's about building a legacy, Harbaugh would have stayed at Stanford - he basically built that 11-1 team from nothing to win the Orange Bowl. Not all coaches are the same but Harbaugh, given his record with the 49ers, was made to coach in the NFL.

You're right though, there's probably better job security with Michigan, AD will keep you around vs. the NFL which is basically demands success right away but like I said earlier, work needs to be put in for both teams. While bringing Michigan back to a NCAAF powerhouse would be significant, imagine what brining the Raiders back to relevance would do/mean.
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While Stanford is a great school, it's still not Michigan in regard to football.

Also, it may just be my personal bias, but I don't see why anybody would care if the Raiders were a decent football team again except maybe Raiders fans.
 
einmusiker said:
the SEC??? I mean it's pretty much known the only SEC school with a great academic reputation is UF

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maybe but universities do not function as semi-pro athletic institutions. Their function is academics
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UF? yer kidding right? from my knowledge it is a party school.

and we were talking about michigan...

yeah, u went off on a tangent about academics.. no one questioned anyones academic program.

plus, Vanderbilt is pretty well known for it's academic programs.
 
pachyderm said:
UF? yer kidding right? from my knowledge it is a party school.

and we were talking about michigan...

yeah, u went off on a tangent about academics.. no one questioned anyones academic program.

plus, Vanderbilt is pretty well known for it's academic programs.
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Florida is decent academically
 
Peace said:
Harbaugh's going to coach Michigan.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2311793-sources-jim-harbaugh-expected-to-take-michigan-job
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That could be a great fit. I think we won't know for sure until something is signed. The Raiders seem equally interested and Jim is already a Bay Area fixture. For us over here, I hope he stays and puts Oakland under a better light.

The Raiders could sure use somebody to kick butt and get things going. A strong personality works as was evidenced in the days when evil Chucky was the boss.
 
I have to say, I'm largely underwhelmed by this weekend's set of games. Except for a few contested games, such as Carolina vs Atlanta, most will have little to know meaning, Some will have implications on seeding to be sure, but many won't.

At this stage, the bowl games are providing better football experience :)

Peace said:
Harbaugh's going to coach Michigan.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2311793-sources-jim-harbaugh-expected-to-take-michigan-job
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I just saw that, I think that's good news for him and the school
 
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