So much salt in this thread. Do we need a disclaimer about tech goods?
I'll be waiting for refurbs to roll in before I consider a purchase.
I'll be waiting for refurbs to roll in before I consider a purchase.
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2017 MacBook Pro is Up to 20% Faster Than Last Year's Model in Benchmarks
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So awesome! As good as the early 2015 models! Finally catches up with the Mac Mini i7 I bought for $1000 7 years ago. Go Apple! Such a great machine for dealing with photos. Just bring an extra cord and SD card reader. So much more fun than just putting the card directly into the laptop! Maybe the next model they can drop all usable ports entirely and make the screen an expensive add-on!
Thanks for that link. So 8 bit H265 hardware decode will, indeed, be possible. 10 bit will still need a 2017 MBP though. Thanks for that.
Yep, it looks like 10 bit hardware acceleration will require Intel Kaby Lake processors or later
What I don't understand is why the new AppleCare+ for Mac's is only available in the US and Japan. I'm in Canada and we usually get everything at the same time, it's odd no ones talking about this and that even apple employees don't have a clue. Maybe it's a staggered release but I'd prefer to have the accidental coverage and I'm annoyed because I really want to update my 2012 15 MBP.
A dozen does not a sample make. I wonder what relevant comparisons could be drawn from the first twelve 16's, if any.
The bench is interesting, I follow, but like a fair weather fan. What's nags me is two things: 1) when I see way older models beating new equivalent models and 2) the wide variance between identical units (same model/specs/year).
The bench is interesting, I follow, but like a fair weather fan. What's nags me is two things: 1) when I see way older models beating new equivalent models and 2) the wide variance between identical units (same model/specs/year).
Quote from WWDC 2017 keynote as for the new MacBook Pro: updated display panels. 500 nits (43% brighter) and 10-bit dithering support.
10-bit output support already was in 2016 models.
UPDATE: nope, iMac displays only. MacBook Pro didn't get 10-bit display
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THANK YOU !! ...the only thing more irritating than that is the term [x] times less/fewer/slower etc...
$3000 Canadian would get you a basic 15" TB MBP. Sad. I don't know if going w/ 13" & adding better specs would be better*. Still..... a world of hurt for dated technology & less features.
(*An open invitation to debate better 13/basic 15 trade-offs; Ty)
Nice!
Combined with the enhancements of High Sierra, we may see performance in some operations that are 50% faster. I haven't spent much time with it but one thing that is obvious is that High Sierra is very snappy for a beta. An early beta at that. It looks like there will be many happy campers once High Sierra ships.
Combined with the enhancements of High Sierra, we may see performance in some operations that are 50% faster. I haven't spent much time with it but one thing that is obvious is that High Sierra is very snappy for a beta. An early beta at that. It looks like there will be many happy campers once High Sierra ships.
If only I could find someone to by my early 2015 rMBP....
eBay
Anywhere from 1350 to 1450 depending on configuration.
Just bought one for $ 1,375 = 16GB 512 SSD
Just be patient whether buying or selling.
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More importantly High Sierra should make that machine much more snappy!! The far faster file system, the enhanced Window manager and other technologies baked into High Sierra will lead to very happy customers from what I'm seeing.
Quote from WWDC 2017 keynote as for the new MacBook Pro: updated display panels. 500 nits (43% brighter) and 10-bit dithering support.
10-bit output support already was in 2016 models.
UPDATE: nope, iMac displays only. MacBook Pro didn't get 10-bit display
Looks like they indeed may be able support 10-bit through DisplayPort 1.3 output. Though since DP 1.3 doesn't support HDR, the benefit of 10-bit is limited.
Hmm well I guess toys are able to multicam edit broadcast network TV shows nowadays. I will enjoy thanks
Off topic - will there be a conversion from HFS to APFS as part of the install? I'd hate to have to do a fresh install to get the benefits of the new file system (but I would if I had to)
I installed the High Sierra beta on my 2012 mac mini and it asked be if I wanted to convert to APFS (was a check box) I said yes and all my stuff was still there.
We are with you. This BS updating stuff has got to stop. It's time to get a petition going to have Tim Cook and Apple rescind these updates until more time has passed, at least another six months, but preferably twelve months. If we can get Apple to roll back these updates, then the next step is to get a commitment to slow down future updates as well. I am worried that there is already talk from Intel about the next generation being out soon. If we don't unite, Apple is likely to screw more people by updating the line yet again!
His machine is suddenly worth a lot less money. You always have a chance of getting screwed if the next update is a lot faster, but it's even more extreme this time because Apple also took forever to update to Skylake but went to Kaby Lake quickly.
[doublepost=1496883180][/doublepost]Glad to see Apple seems to be taking the Mac seriously again. Where are all the people in those other threads who were saying these Kaby Lake processors aren't any faster and that Apple shouldn't bother with them?
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Same here! Mines still pushing strong
battery doesn't last the 8 hours it use to but still decent. Keep putting off buying a new rMBP because mine 2012 is still quick and responsive!My mid-2015 15" pro retina still holding up. I got the 2.5GHz (3.7 boost). These are definitely long-term ownership devices. Got mine for $1,800 used with 51 cycles when they were still $2,499.