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The real head scratcher for me was the 4th pick, the browns could have traded down twice and still probably picked up that CB. I understand that was their need, but when you have a once in a lifetime difference maker like Chubb sitting there you take it. I think Elway fell out of his seat and forgot about any QB plans he had when he saw that the Browns didn't take Chubb.

I can't believe that Chubb fell to the Broncos! Can't wait to see him and Vonn Miller going to town on opposing QBs.
 
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I guess its official, Witten is retiring and joining MNF: ESPN

I saw that he may be on the hook to payback 4 million of his signing bonus and given how hard the Cowboys tried to keep him, I don't think they'll be all that quick to forgive that amount.
 
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I wish him all the best. Witten is pure class. He's had a great career on the field and I have no doubt he'll experience continued success off the field.
Agree, he's one of the nice guys of football and its hard to root against him.
 
Jerry is a hard nosed business man, but he should do the classy thing here.... On the other hand it was Witten's decision to retire so he's not really entitled to the money.. who knows what's right or wrong here its a gray area.
 
but he should do the classy thing here.
Classy by letting him keep 4 million dollars? I'm all for a greaceful exits, but the signing bonus is given in total with the expectation he'll play out his contract. That didn't happen, so I think Witten ought to pay it back.
 
Classy by letting him keep 4 million dollars? I'm all for a greaceful exits, but the signing bonus is given in total with the expectation he'll play out his contract. That didn't happen, so I think Witten ought to pay it back.

I agree completely. Witten chose to retire, so he should give the prorated amount back to the Cowboys.
 
Same with Tony Romo, I believe his contract is the reason that the Cowboys cant sign anyone
When Romo retired, that opened up 14million of cap space. I'm not sure his contract has a lot of dead money that is impacting the cowboys. I'd say Romo's contract is the least of their worries. U suspect it has been other signings. Just look at Dez Bryant, it was a no brainer to cut him, given his production and what the cowboys werre going to be on the hook.
 
When Romo retired, that opened up 14million of cap space. I'm not sure his contract has a lot of dead money that is impacting the cowboys. I'd say Romo's contract is the least of their worries. U suspect it has been other signings. Just look at Dez Bryant, it was a no brainer to cut him, given his production and what the cowboys werre going to be on the hook.

Romo had a $10.7 million hit against the cap last year, and $8.9 cap hit this year.
 
Dead body found at Janoris Jenkin’s house. Uh-oh this could be really ugly or it could be something with an explanation. Story developing.....
 
Adrian Peterson dazzles some but looks rusty in first Redskins practice

I can't see them getting much out of him at this point, but they are desperate.

For what ever reason, I'm just not a fan of Washington under Jay Gruden, which is odd, since I'm a huge fan of John Gruden. I really hated how the organization left Cousins to twist in the wind, though it worked out better for him being tagged all those years. He just never seemed to have the backing of the coach.
 
The only reason to watch NFL football is to see just how horribly, horrendously bad the Cleveland Browns will be. The game has become so boring—filled with a bunch of greedy cry-baby players, and coaches with such predictable play-calling. I just don't see the attraction anymore.

I switched to watching college football in the 90s and haven't regretted it. The game is faster-paced, more unpredictable and exciting, teams have more tradition, and the fans are more rabid.
 
The only reason to watch NFL football is to see just how horribly, horrendously bad the Cleveland Browns will be. The game has become so boring—filled with a bunch of greedy cry-baby players, and coaches with such predictable play-calling. I just don't see the attraction anymore.

I switched to watching college football in the 90s and haven't regretted it. The game is faster-paced, more unpredictable and exciting, teams have more tradition, and the fans are more rabid.
Sadly football is a sport that will begin to fade. From injury risks to a commissioner ruining the game people will start tuning out and parents will find other sports for their kids to play.

If the league can’t define what a catch is how can they survive.
 
Sadly football is a sport that will begin to fade. From injury risks to a commissioner ruining the game people will start tuning out and parents will find other sports for their kids to play.

If the league can’t define what a catch is how can they survive.

People have been saying that for some time now, yet the NFL is still signing record tv deals like the 3 Billion fox just gave them for Thursday night football. At the end of the day the average fan doesn't care about injury risks, they don't care what the commissioner is doing... And the amount of people tuning out will not be enough to affect the game... the NFL doomsday talk is overblown, its still the most popular sport in America and when the season rolls around everyone is excited.... As long as there is gambling and fantasy football, people will tune in. And as long as there are multi million dollar contracts being handed out there will be enough talented kids playing the game and entering the draft for many years to come.
 
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I'm not as sure of the NFL's invincibility as I once was. There are definitely some cracks in the armor. Do I think it will stop being America's #1 sport? No chance. I do think it's past its peak, and while the political issues will past, the health concerns are here to stay. I'm not an overly-protective parent, but I'd never want my son to play any level of tackle football.
 
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The Browns and will forever be a train wreck.
Okay, they deserve that. But aside from the literal impossibility of it, I think they've finally got their feet under them.
  • They've got John Dorsey at GM and he's made some great off-season moves;
  • They've got a new OC, Todd Haley from the Steelers;
  • Returning DC Gregg Williams took the defense from 31 to 14...and they shut out the Eagles last week;
  • Tyrod Taylor is in the house;
  • Baker Mayfield is impressing everyone;
  • Josh Gordon is back;
  • Receivers Njoku and Higgins look improved from last year;
  • RB Carlos Hyde looks great;
  • And DE Myles Garrett is a ****ing beast.
Best of all is what they don't have: last year's three young quarterbacks who, between them, hadn't won a single NFL game.

No way is this team as bad as the last two years. I'm not at all on board with the fanboys who are talking 9-7 and/or playoffs :confused:, but they'll win a few and it just gets better from there.
 
My son, thinks the Browns will go 11-5, win the AFC North, and win a playoff game this year.

I tend to agree with you, @MacNut, but I do see my son and @Thomas Veil's point of view. Cleveland has acquired some good players, I hope they are at least competitive this year.

I thought they were going to be really good as well (not 11-5 good)..... but then I saw hard knocks, and it’s obvious right off the bat that all of the dysfunction and incompetence is still there. Hue Jackson is horrible as a leader and just the way everything is run seems bush league with the franchise.
 
I won't believe the Browns are any good until I see them win more than 9 games. Every year I hear the same story about this being the Browns year and every year it's a train wreck. Yes they have a better QB but is that enough. I do think they will be better within the next 5 years.
 
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