2018 iPhone Shipments to Apple This Fall Predicted to Be Highest Since iPhone 6 Lineup

[Baymowe335]

Exactly. And just because it comes from Apple directly doesn't mean it's not fake. I mean Nokia called themself market leader until their fall was absolutely obvious.
Look behind all that marketing slang and you will find that all these terms lack a definition/clarity/detail. "Top selling iPhone" By what? To whom? In comparison to what? ...

Fact is, feedback on the X is not "amazing" and I don't see many people with it. And those that have one, got a good deal on their contract. I don't hear die hard Apple fans praising it. Starting with the iPhone 7 Apple made steps back. They removed things that people liked. Like the headphone jack. Now they remove TouchID for FaceID which in many situations isn't superior to TouchID. It's different, but not necessarily better. Why can't we have both? TouchID on the side or back. In fact, there's no reason to not put it on the back except Apples arrogance to admit that it wouldn't actually be a bad idea.
Anyway... the system is moving slowly. People that bought themselves into the Apple ecosystem are not likely to switch quickly... eventuelly, they will buy an 8 or even the X and go along with it, hoping things get better. These are not the customers that pre order... they are more like "let's wait for good time to upgrade". That's why I would predict the cheapest iPhone released this year, will be the one selling best unless there's a new features in the others we don't know about yet...

Your facts about the X are “it’s not that amazing” and “ you don’t see many people with it?”

Meanwhile, I post hard numbers that prove the X is selling incredibly well.

The proof is in the numbers. What financial metric has shown poor sales for X?

Apple can’t lie, so if Tim says it’s the best selllng iPhone, it is. The numbers I posted support that as well. Not sure what else you need.

Keep making me laugh.

 

[ipponrg]

www.Sec.gov

ASP of $796 in Q12018, Cook has said the X remains the top selling iPhone in Apple’s lineup since release, $130B in iPhone revenue in the first 3 quarters of F2018, up 16% from $112B in F2017 and an all time record.

These are facts. “Everything you’ve seen” has likely been analyst speculation or literally fake news, which is over half of all Apple news.

What Cook said is a fact twisted to fit the narrative. It's known that the 8 outsells the X in total units. In revenue, of course the iPhone X will be the top seller since it gives a greater profit than the 8.

 

[joiwomcow]

What impressed me most about the X: it's a major update, the first generation of a new Apple phone design without a significant "gate". See antennagate (iPhone 4), bendgate (iPhone 6). Pity they didn't take the same care with their laptops (keyboardgate) which they've only just got around to fixing on gen 3 (maybe).

 

[Matthew.H]

Nope, don't believe those prices. Not as long as Phil Schiller gets his way.

It'll probably be this (starting prices):
$1199 for the 6.5-inch iPhone X S Plus
$999 for the 5.8-inch iPhone X S
$699 for the 6.1-inch LCD iPhone (maybe it will have a $949 256GB model)

Why would Apple adopt an aggressive pricing strategy when the $1000 iPhone X sold so well in 2017-2018? Apple would just be giving up free money.

I can't see the 6.5" starting at $1199. You'd scare off a good amount of customers at that price. The 2017 X starting at $999 made sense due to being a new design and the first year of face id.

All the price rumours so far have said $999 starting for the 6.5" and $899 for the 5.8".

 

[Baymowe335]

What Cook said is a fact twisted to fit the narrative. It's known that the 8 outsells the X in total units. In revenue, of course the iPhone X will be the top seller since it gives a greater profit than the 8.

How do you know that? That’s not what Tim said. He said the X remains the most popular iPhone in the lineup 3 quarters in a row. Numbers support that. Seen revenue and ASP? LOL, You guys.

 

[I7guy]

Very strong sales predicted? Where does that fit in with the continuing narrative of profits first, customers second.

 

[recoil80]

The S cycle has always been the best. They refine all the little Problems they find.
I’ve had the 4s to 5s to 6s and haven’t budged.
This year I’m getting iPhone Xs or whatever they want to call it.

Agree, but with a "not" S cycle you get the tempting new design.
I had a 6s and bought the 8+ which I consider an S iteration. This year I think I'll buy the Xs

 

[joeblow7777]

JUST. ANNOUNCE. THE. DAMN. EVENT. ALREADY.

Why do people get so impatient? We all know when it's happening, give or take a few days. It's the same thing every year.

 

[unobtainium]

I can't see the 6.5" starting at $1199. You'd scare off a good amount of customers at that price. The 2017 X starting at $999 made sense due to being a new design and the first year of face id.

All the price rumours so far have said $999 starting for the 6.5" and $899 for the 5.8".

They’ll hold the line on the $999 price for the Xs. The X Plus (or whatever it’s called) will get a $1099 price point. Apple is counting on the 6.1” model to satisfy price-conscious consumers. Probably in the $699 to $799 range.

 

[DNichter]

Agreed. Other companies are so close (and sometimes better) in many aspects, but there isn’t a single company that covers all the bases as well as the iPhone right now.

I think that's it, being the best overall combination in a number of key factors. I consider performance, security, privacy, ecosystem, apps, and support to be the most important. People typically point to specs or features, which ultimately don't make a ton of difference in the end.
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Yes, those are TWO reasons many people I know held off on getting the X.

A third solid reason was that many were skeptical about the move from TouchID to FaceID. But some months after the X release, the negativity and skepticism against the FaceID seems to have died down. So yes, I agree that many that held back jumping on the 2017 iPhone X bandwagon will now embrace the 2018 Exes.

Yes, Touch ID to Face ID was another level of hesitation for people. I am sold on Face ID personally, but I think there is a ton of room for improvement. I am hoping for more extreme angles, speed improvements, and landscape ability in Face ID 2. I am curious if that is coming this year or not. If so, my guess is that the 6.1 remains on Face ID 1.

 

[Arrox]

What impressed me most about the X: it's a major update, the first generation of a new Apple phone design without a significant "gate". See antennagate (iPhone 4), bendgate (iPhone 6). Pity they didn't take the same care with their laptops (keyboardgate) which they've only just got around to fixing on gen 3 (maybe).

You forgot notchgate and how lots of apps look so chaotic because of it.

 

[FFR]

You forgot notchgate and how lots of apps look so chaotic because of it.

Your just making things up

 

[nvmls]

Your facts about the X are “it’s not that amazing” and “ you don’t see many people with it?”

Meanwhile, I post hard numbers that prove the X is selling incredibly well.

The proof is in the numbers. What financial metric has shown poor sales for X?

Apple can’t lie, so if Tim says it’s the best selllng iPhone, it is. The numbers I posted support that as well. Not sure what else you need.

Keep making me laugh.

You also posted the MacBook Pro 2018 had only a single issue (throttling, which they put it out as a "firmware" fix which clearly wasn't, pushing CPU to very high temps exposing board & components to all kinds of issues).

In addition to that, we have the below, and I'm not even bringing up Safari often not working, hard reset freezes, touch bar randomly stops responding, etc, because for people with more money than brains like yourself this is what a 3-4k machine should be like.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2018-macbook-pros-crashing-with-bridge-os-error.2128976/

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macbook-pro-2018-speakers-crackling.2128234/

Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[scrapesleon]

JUST. ANNOUNCE. THE. DAMN. EVENT. ALREADY.

now now don't be too hasty

 

[cibonak]

i have a 6s+ for me oled or ldc there is not much difference....

6`1 lcd is a grower for me

 

[WatchFromAfar]

I am confident Apple will have a monster quarter. My guess is many people held out buying the X (although it still sold very well) due to cost and it being a first generation device. Now that they are expanding the design to 2 new models, one being much more affordable, while also reducing costs on the high end, it should entice a lot of buyers. Apple is in a great position as their products last so long, it creates a steady stream up upgraders year after year. There really isn't a viable competitor to the iPhone currently.

I'm really curious, and looking at all your previous posts, have Apple ever done anything that hasn't got you turned on?

 

[cibonak]

I would imagine lots of people will upgrade from older models this year. I have a 6S myself and haven't upgraded simply because the phone still does what I need it to perfectly fine. The 7 and 8 didn't interest me being the same design with a few extra features and the X was too expensive.
I suspect the 6.1" will sell very well for people who are looking to upgrade this year but can't afford or justify the price of the OLED models.

6s+ is it 5`5 screen?

 

[dabocx]

Well, if that's the entire lineup, then they pretty much just ensured that the iPhone 8 will be my last iPhone. The phones are already too damn big and now the "smallest" phone is 30% larger??? I thought the 6s and the 8 were already too big, but they were at least tolerable even though I prefer the size of the 5s or SE. It's a phone, I don't want to carry a tablet around. If the "smallest" size available going forward is bigger than the 8+, which is huge, than I just don't see myself staying with Apple, regardless of how much I like the functionality.

The X is only 5mm taller and 3mm wider than the normal 8. It's still much smaller than the 8 plus.

I honestly doubt you'll notice the difference between the X and 8 after a few minutes.

 

[DNichter]

I'm really curious, and looking at all your previous posts, have Apple ever done anything that hasn't got you turned on?

Sure, I am not a huge fan of macOS and the prices of their traditional computers. Overall though, I tend not to get all up in arms about issues as I haven't experienced many. I also don't particularly care about business decisions they make, because I can't control it and how I feel about it ultimately makes no difference. If I see value in a product, I'll buy it. If I don't, I won't.

 

[SegPip]

don't imagine sales to top a brand new design style. This is basically the 6SSSS
A new form factor might change that.
Dropping the notch will help also.

In what world is this a "6SSSS" ??
It will be more like the X than any previous generation.
Also, the notch is functional, why would they drop something that works better?
If you used it more than just a few minutes at the Apple Store, you'd come to love the notch/gestures. There's no way that you have used the X for a year, as it has only been our for around 10 months. If you're that bitter about the notch, you should try Android...oh wait, all their new phones have notches too, except their notches are non-functional.

 

[TheShadowKnows!]

A new SE for the folks who want a small phone would be good. Unfortunately small phones are now very much the minority. Ever since the 6 Plus came out the large screen models have always outsold the regular size. I'm getting the 5.8" this year as I'm currently on the 6S but larger screens are the norm these days.

Yes. I am of the opinion that Cook has removed all smaller form-factors from his "full pipeline".
This is the silent death by thousand cuts of:

1. iPhone SE Mk II (to be)
2. iPad Mini 5 (to be)

Neither because of sales, as they are both popular and stand on their own merit.

Cook has decided (as many in here), probably, that the large-format "iPhone x Plus" will replace the iPad mini.

[Replaced at twice the retail cost, with a less-desirable form-factor for page-size reading, as new-gen iPhone is stretched vertically 38% more than the iPad mini that it would replace.]

More likely than not, Apple wants to eliminate all vestiges of TouchID on their iOS pipeline. So, the reason for silently discontinuing both could be attributed to FaceID and the cost of re-engineering away from FaceID and the narrowing of gross margins, as a result.

So, no mini, no SE -- both silently left to languish unattended to a slow death the "new-Apple way".

 

[WatchFromAfar]

Sure, I am not a huge fan of macOS and the prices of their traditional computers. Overall though, I tend not to get all up in arms about issues as I haven't experienced many. I also don't particularly care about business decisions they make, because I can't control it and how I feel about it ultimately makes no difference. If I see value in a product, I'll buy it. If I don't, I won't.

That's a well-argued response. Fair play to you Sir.

 

[TheMacDaddy1]

Agreed. Other companies are so close (and sometimes better) in many aspects, but there isn’t a single company that covers all the bases as well as the iPhone right now.

While I agree, it does not change the fact that Android has 85% of the market. Yes many or most of those are cheap Android phones that don't compare to any iPhone, but 85% of the market is NOT choosing iPhone for whatever reason.

Apple makes "brave moves" (sarcasm) like removing the headphone jack or giving you face ID and removing finger id, raising the ASP year after year, or not using USB-C and so far has not lost a lot of users. I feel like they are one brave move away from shattering user confidence and that could be very bad for Apple who gets a huge majority of revenue from the iPhone.

Honestly I feel like they have done that with the Macbooks already. Mac sales down 13% last quarter certainly is not good. The Throttlebook is not going to help sales.

 

[x-evil-x]

In what world is this a "6SSSS" ??
It will be more like the X than any previous generation.
Also, the notch is functional, why would they drop something that works better?
If you used it more than just a few minutes at the Apple Store, you'd come to love the notch/gestures. There's no way that you have used the X for a year, as it has only been our for around 10 months. If you're that bitter about the notch, you should try Android...oh wait, all their new phones have notches too, except their notches are non-functional.

I said almost a year geeze. I love the gestures. I’ve had almost all iPhones and I don’t think the notch is a good idea. I put up with it because I love the rest of the phone and understand it’s what we have to deal with in transitions to real full screen phones. Stop reading so deep into things. Stop praising Apple so much. If they could of released a full screen phone you bet your ass they will.
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If you can instantly tell someone is using an X with a quick glance then it’s not the same form factor as the 6...

You don’t understand hardware design. It’s the same shape as the 6’s. The notch has nothing to do with the shape of the phone. iPhone 4 and 5 is a different shape then the 6 and on. The x is the same shape as the 6.

 

[littyboy]

Remember last year when "rumors" of severely low stock supply but came out to be complete BS. I guess they are now heading the other direction with this rumor.