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Glad people are excited, but I don’t care for the trend towards larger and larger phones. If there was a rumor putting a 4.7” screen in a smaller body then I’d be getting excited.

I’ve pretty much abandoned my desktop for most things and use my iPad and iPhone so I like the extra room. I saw a "comparison" somewhere showing the X+ being only a smidgen larger than the 8+.

I hear you though. Many just want mainly a phone that easily fits in a pocket and doesn’t pull your pants down around your ankles. A smaller alternative would be welcome and IMO a good seller.
 
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Except the fact that Apple (typically) doesn't do that... The Apple Watch Sport has been the same starting price since the original series, the iPhone's have gone slightly up in price. Same with their computers. I honestly can't think of a product that's come out in the Tim Cook era where the subsequent gen device is cheaper than the one its replacing.

Even if the starting prices appear to be little less pricey, the higher storage ones will shoot through the roof in price.

Typical iPhone lovers go after the higher storage options!

The cheap price will be only on paper!
 
I’m taking about iPhone and anyone saying the X is doing poorly or not so well is embarrassing themselves. I know the numbers very well and you can’t argue with them. iPhone revenue is up 16% y/y through 3 quarters.

The MacBook is fine.


What does the MacBook have to do with iPhone X sales.
Talk about moving the goalposts.
 
"Tim" can say it's the best selling iPhone (meaning ever) or best selling iPhone (meaning this quarter) or best selling iPhone (meaning it sold more than the other new iPhones) etc etc.

When all was said and done didn't the iPhone 8 outsell the iPhone X?

IPhone 8 outsold the iPhone X in one market in one quarter. Not overall.
 
What does the MacBook have to do with iPhone X sales.
Talk about moving the goalposts.

Actually, the growth of revenue over number of mobiles tell you the real horror story from the consumers point of view(and why iPhone prices shooting upwards regularly). Fewer buyers contribute to this YoY 16-17% revenue growth!
 
What does the MacBook have to do with iPhone X sales.
Talk about moving the goalposts.
Standard tactic when someone is wrong. Lol...just comical the few remaining naysayers on iPhone X are still digging in their heels. It took Apple to a $1T valuation, sold incredibly well, record revenues and all 3 new iPhones are adopting the form factor and tech...yet people still want to say it wasn’t very successful. Total lol.
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Actually, the growth of revenue over number of mobiles tell you the real horror story from the consumers point of view(and why iPhone prices shooting upwards regularly). Fewer buyers contribute to this YoY 16-17% revenue growth!
Unit sales are just fine too, increasing slightly. All about services now, baby.
 
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Standard tactic when someone is wrong. Lol...just comical the few remaining naysayers on iPhone X are still digging in their heels. It took Apple to a $1T valuation, sold incredibly well, record revenues and all 3 new iPhones are adopting the form factor and tech...yet people still want to say it wasn’t very successful. Total lol.
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Unit sales are just fine too, increasing slightly. All about services now, baby.

Your right....but iPhone X is doing bad because of MacBook Pro was just icing.
 
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Actually, the growth of revenue over number of mobiles tell you the real horror story from the consumers point of view(and why iPhone prices shooting upwards regularly). Fewer buyers contribute to this YoY 16-17% revenue growth!

Are you talking about revenue growth?

Revenue growth = good
Revenue loss = bad

You think a revenue growth of 16%-17% is bad.

Don’t think you understand how business works.
 
I'm going to be a bit greedy for a second and hope the pricing for the 5.8" OLED model isn't accurate. That's going to drop resale prices for the original X big time.

$999 64gb
$1149 256gb
$1349 512gb.

Bank on it. ;)

People that think they need 512 will pony up the cash. Always have, always will. Very few pay cash for a phone in the US anyway. Start at a $30 a month payment, then $36, $42, $47, now upper $50's with the Xs Plus. The procession is so gradual and removed it becomes another required monthly expendature. I highly doubt the majority of Americans who purchase an Xs+ 512gb on a plan make a reduction somewhere else in their budget. It simply becomes the cost of feeding the need.

IMO, $1350 for a phone is sad testimony to which we are all so dependent on our devices. It's almost a "Must Have." It will be very interesting to watch the sales over the next 6-8 months starting Sept 14th. :apple:
 
Are you talking about revenue growth?

Revenue growth = good
Revenue loss = bad

You think a revenue growth of 16%-17% is bad.

Don’t think you understand how business works.

I did not say it was bad for Apple. Revenue growth is fantastic for Apple....Higher revenue growth is contributed by lesser addition of new buyers, meaning, lesser people contribute more revenue, essentially, higher pricing makes Apple profitable and ride on higher revenue model...
 
$999 64gb
$1149 256gb
$1349 512gb.

Bank on it. ;)

People that think they need 512 will pony up the cash. Always have, always will. Very few pay cash for a phone in the US anyway. Start at a $30 a month payment, then $36, $42, $47, now upper $50's with the Xs Plus. The procession is so gradual and removed it becomes another required monthly expendature. I highly doubt the majority of Americans who purchase an Xs+ 512gb on a plan make a reduction somewhere else in their budget. It simply becomes the cost of feeding the need.

IMO, $1350 for a phone is sad testimony to which we are all so dependent on our devices. It's almost a "Must Have." It will be very interesting to watch the sales over the next 6-8 months starting Sept 14th. :apple:
Not a phone.
 
What does the MacBook have to do with iPhone X sales.
Talk about moving the goalposts.
I’m taking about iPhone and anyone saying the X is doing poorly or not so well is embarrassing themselves. I know the numbers very well and you can’t argue with them. iPhone revenue is up 16% y/y through 3 quarters.

The MacBook is fine.
I did not say it was bad for Apple. Revenue growth is fantastic for Apple....Higher revenue growth is contributed by lesser addition of new buyers, meaning, lesser people contribute more revenue, essentially, higher pricing makes Apple profitable and ride on higher revenue model...

Too complex for them Ramchi, they just want to praise Apple and throw likes at each other like kindergarten boyfriends.
 
$999 64gb
$1149 256gb
$1349 512gb.

Bank on it. ;)

People that think they need 512 will pony up the cash. Always have, always will. Very few pay cash for a phone in the US anyway. Start at a $30 a month payment, then $36, $42, $47, now upper $50's with the Xs Plus. The procession is so gradual and removed it becomes another required monthly expendature. I highly doubt the majority of Americans who purchase an Xs+ 512gb on a plan make a reduction somewhere else in their budget. It simply becomes the cost of feeding the need.

IMO, $1350 for a phone is sad testimony to which we are all so dependent on our devices. It's almost a "Must Have." It will be very interesting to watch the sales over the next 6-8 months starting Sept 14th. :apple:

Thankfully, tons of options available across the aisle.....there is absolutely no need for everyone to shell out a fortune.
 
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How do you know that? That’s not what Tim said. He said the X remains the most popular iPhone in the lineup 3 quarters in a row. Numbers support that. Seen revenue and ASP? LOL, You guys.

Does popular mean highest revenue and ASP, or does it mean the most unit sales?

To me and probably to most people, popular means the number of units sold, and not the average selling price nor revenue.

Clearly to you, popular only means highest revenue and ASP. I personally don't understand why you think popular means that since revenue/ASP don't tell you how many people own the device.

Tim Cook is probably right in that it's the most popular 3 quarters in a row because all the other phones have plateaued in units since people are waiting for refreshes. Why not look at the quarters before then and see where the iPhone X stands? In terms of total units, the 8 still outsells the X. There is no debate here.
 
Not surprising, if they release a phone with the new 'X' design at a more reasonable price, I can see people going nuts over it.

reasonable price? hahahahaaa. That is not Apple's DNA. More chances they are going to add a few more features and up the price.
 
Too complex for them Ramchi, they just want to praise Apple and throw likes at each other like kindergarten boyfriends.

Perhaps it is too complex for you to even understand your own point.

It happens. Never happened to me, but looks like it happens to you frequently.
 
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Does popular mean highest revenue and ASP, or does it mean the most unit sales?

To me and probably to most people, popular means the number of units sold, and not the average selling price nor revenue.

Clearly to you, popular only means highest revenue and ASP. I personally don't understand why you think popular means that since revenue/ASP don't tell you how many people own the device.

Tim Cook is probably right in that it's the most popular 3 quarters in a row because all the other phones have plateaued in units since people are waiting for refreshes. Why not look at the quarters before then and see where the iPhone X stands? In terms of total units, the 8 still outsells the X. There is no debate here.

Popular would mean most unit sales, as in its a popular model.

Never heard anyone refer to revenue or asp as popular.
 
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Does popular mean highest revenue and ASP, or does it mean the most unit sales?

To me and probably to most people, popular means the number of units sold, and not the average selling price nor revenue.

Clearly to you, popular only means highest revenue and ASP. I personally don't understand why you think popular means that since revenue/ASP don't tell you how many people own the device.

Tim Cook is probably right in that it's the most popular 3 quarters in a row because all the other phones have plateaued in units since people are waiting for refreshes. Why not look at the quarters before then and see where the iPhone X stands? In terms of total units, the 8 still outsells the X. There is no debate here.
Can you prove the iPhone 8 outsells the iPhone X? Prove in the sense that Apple said it, not some guesstimated supply chain numbers reported by an unknown website.
 
Does popular mean highest revenue and ASP, or does it mean the most unit sales?

To me and probably to most people, popular means the number of units sold, and not the average selling price nor revenue.

Clearly to you, popular only means highest revenue and ASP. I personally don't understand why you think popular means that since revenue/ASP don't tell you how many people own the device.

Tim Cook is probably right in that it's the most popular 3 quarters in a row because all the other phones have plateaued in units since people are waiting for refreshes. Why not look at the quarters before then and see where the iPhone X stands? In terms of total units, the 8 still outsells the X. There is no debate here.
How do you know that? You don’t. Tim said the X is the best selling phone in their lineup and asp and revenue records both point to that.

If we don’t have unit sales from Apple, we can infer from numbers.

For your argument to be true, you’d have to infer Tim is lying and the gigantic ASP growth and iPhone revenue growth is being driven by the iPhone 8 Plus 256GB. Makes no sense.

Apple told us it’s the best selling phone and you still say it’s not. The 8 came out 6 weeks before iPhone X...you’re saying that means it plateaued? Who cares? iPhone X outsold everyone iPhone since it’s been out, period. What is so hard to understand about this fact?

Are you saying total units maybe higher for 8 and 8 plus combined? What is really your argument here?
 
$999 64gb
$1149 256gb
$1349 512gb.

Bank on it. ;)

People that think they need 512 will pony up the cash. Always have, always will. Very few pay cash for a phone in the US anyway. Start at a $30 a month payment, then $36, $42, $47, now upper $50's with the Xs Plus. The procession is so gradual and removed it becomes another required monthly expendature. I highly doubt the majority of Americans who purchase an Xs+ 512gb on a plan make a reduction somewhere else in their budget. It simply becomes the cost of feeding the need.

IMO, $1350 for a phone is sad testimony to which we are all so dependent on our devices. It's almost a "Must Have." It will be very interesting to watch the sales over the next 6-8 months starting Sept 14th. :apple:

I hope you are right, but on the flip side, how crazy will the prices for the 6.5" OLED phone be?

But like you said, so many people do installments that they don't think of the full price, just the monthly price, which is easier to handle.
 
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2017 was just the kickoff year. 2018 will be a massive year for the iPhone. More options for the consumer, means more potential sales. Having three iPhones debut this year with different price points, will likely find a median for everybody who is willing to upgrade, just depends what they’re willing to spend on which model.
 
Even if the starting prices appear to be little less pricey, the higher storage ones will shoot through the roof in price.

Typical iPhone lovers go after the higher storage options!

The cheap price will be only on paper!

True. 256GB seems to be the sweet spot for me personally.
 
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