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Contractual lock-in. If you are willing to lock-in enough, one of them might pay you to take a phone.

but that is a est. 500$ markdown, doesn't verizon has to pay for those xPhones?
along with that scrawny, diseased-stricken salesperson, ad budget .....etc?
you dont hafta answer, I'm think aloud while trying to grasp all this.
 
Having a smaller version of Apple Pencil for the iPhone X plus would be quite logical & awesome. I think Steve would love Apple Pencil. Before iPhone you usually had to use stylus to work with PDAs (or similar devices). That was very impractical and that's the only reason why he hated styluses. But stylus as an optional accessory for more precise drawing & note-taking is priceless.

And don't forget that the iPhone X plus might need some extra "plus device" feature (like that dual lens camera on 7+ & 8+) and the Apple Pencil support might be it.

512gb & pencil support, why not?

Maybe it will be called iPhone X Pro?!
 
Why is everyone so in love with OLED? It’s like purchasing a ticking time bomb until burnin sets in. I plan on keeping my devices for more than a year so I don’t want an OLED anything. And it has to diminish the resale value. UGGHHH. Just update the SE.

Burn in is the biggest myth going...never happened on any of my oled displays. Don’t read everything you hear
 
I hope for the new iPhone lineup to make a significant improvement to battery life! I'd like to go smaller this year, but don't want to compensate for lack of battery life with power bank or battery case.
 
lol, iPhone supporting a stylus was Steve Job's biggest nightmare. I hope this is fully just a rumor because all this means is Apple is concerned about products like the Samsung Note and given credence to the useless case of a phone needing pen input support. Touch and Pen support on a MacBook makes far more sense then bringing Pencil support to the iPhone.

Again, someone assuming that their use case is the only use case. If you don't want to use the pencil, then don't buy one or leave it in a drawer if by some miracle apple includes one. Let the rest of use who have hated that design decision since Jobs was in power use our damn stylus if we so choose.
 
Makes sense it would start at $699, given that's the price of the iPhone 8.

$200 is a pretty big gap though between the 6.1-inch and 5.8-inch iPhones. And for what? 3D Touch and an OLED screen, right? Is there more?
 
I think Pencil support for iPhone is one of the dumbest things and I hope it doesn’t include it. That’ll just be another thing for someone to lose. Next, you’ll be able to shove the pencil inside the iPhone. Wow...innovation!
 
I agree about the iPad mini. Still using mini 4 myself but will have to upgrade to pro eventually. iPad mini is a great size tablet to take with you everywhere. But I still believe they did not sell to well, otherwise I don't understand why Apple would just stop making it!!

Mini was cool but yeah, the only reason is sold so much is because in it's first few versions it was the cheaper model. Now that it's more expensive than the base iPad... Also with iPad becoming so light and thin it's a whole lot easier to use all day if your job requires it. I'd wager that a majority of iPads are sold institutionally.


My question though is if they make the X replacement $899, how much does the X cost drop? Typically they only drop $100 off any previous year device, making them the same price.
 
I think Pencil support for iPhone is one of the dumbest things and I hope it doesn’t include it. That’ll just be another thing for someone to lose. Next, you’ll be able to shove the pencil inside the iPhone. Wow...innovation!

How dare soneone want to draw or use natural handwriting on a phone instead of typing away at super tiny keys with giant fat fingers. HOW DARE WEEEEEEE, RAGE!
 
It makes sense.

Since the iPhone 6, iPhone prices have gone crazily high.

The 6 series (and to a certain extent, the 6s) unlocked a load of demand, simply because tens of millions of people wanted an iPhone with a bigger screen than the 5 (and below) series.

However, since then, I think for most ‘regular’ people it’s hard to justify paying so much for things like 3D Touch (lol), a nicer screen, nicer camera & nicer ID system etc.

These are all great things to have but at the price they’ve been going at, not ‘must haves’ if you’ve already got s big screen iPhone that you’re (reasonably) happy with.

So Apple making phones with features that most people want and at prices that most people will pay for, is welcome.
 
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I think Pencil support for iPhone is one of the dumbest things and I hope it doesn’t include it. That’ll just be another thing for someone to lose. Next, you’ll be able to shove the pencil inside the iPhone. Wow...innovation!
I don’t want it so I don’t want anyone else who wants it to have it. Waaah.
That about sum it up?
 
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Mini was cool but yeah, the only reason is sold so much is because in it's first few versions it was the cheaper model. Now that it's more expensive than the base iPad... Also with iPad becoming so light and thin it's a whole lot easier to use all day if your job requires it. I'd wager that a majority of iPads are sold institutionally.


My question though is if they make the X replacement $899, how much does the X cost drop? Typically they only drop $100 off any previous year device, making them the same price.
The current X is rumoured to be discontinued and replaced with the 2018 version.
 
but that is a est. 500$ markdown, doesn't verizon has to pay for those xPhones?
along with that scrawny, diseased-stricken salesperson, ad budget .....etc?
you dont hafta answer, I'm think aloud while trying to grasp all this.

Of course Verizon has to pay for it... in full to Apple. That's a key part of how Apple is a trillion dollar company- being sure they are paid their full price with full margins no matter how the product actually ends up in consumer hands.

Verizon (and the other Verizon-like entities) are very, very profitable companies. They lock you in to paying for the phone one way or another. If you pay them long enough, they get the money they paid Apple back plus all the extra they get from you paying to use that phone locked to their service. If you quit them, contract terms kick in where you have to pay for the phone and usually a stiff penalty on top of that.

In short, they will get theirs- full price of the phone and then (at least) some.

It's the same with a car lease. Yes, you can drive a whole (brand new) car right off a lot for as little as $0 down. But the car company is not giving away that car. And you are paying for possessing it at a rate likely much higher than if you bought it outright and divided the purchase price over the life of the car. And if you opt to try to just quit the lease, you'll pay a steep fee & penalty... IF you are even able to get out of it.

There is no good deal in free or cheap. It's just a trick... hiding what is actually very likely much greater expense vs. just buying something outright for cash. Another? A $250K home does not end up costing $250K if you buy it on a 30-year mortgage. Instead, it probably costs at least near double when you layer in the (interest) fee to make buying a home so seemingly cheap in the moment. There's always a hook(s). Dig in and you can often find it. Start by looking at the pile of paperwork you must sign to "buy" a phone for $29. Multiple hooks will likely be spelled out right there in black & white.
 
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No requirement for you to buy an LCD screen, nor does Apple making a model with one block or harm anyone wanting to buy an OLED version. So your wish is mostly just wishing others can't get a phone model they might want. If it came true, you wouldn't personally gain anything... nor lose anything.

Buy the one you want. Others may find value in the LCD version... or just enjoy the lower price for something where they might not even be able to see a difference (especially when they are not using each technology side by side).
Bro, all I'm saying is I wish that at the 699 price point, it could be an OLED screen, not LCD.
 
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699 wouldn’t be surprising if it’s essentially replacing the spot that the iPhone 8 Plus (and previously 7 Plus) occupied.

I don't see how this could be remotely described as a better value phone then, especially as Apple have a most annoying habit of using the dollar price as the GBP price in the UK e.g. $599 = £599.

If they want to be competitive in this price segment then they need to be more closely aligned to OP6 pricing.
 
Makes sense it would start at $699, given that's the price of the iPhone 8.

$200 is a pretty big gap though between the 6.1-inch and 5.8-inch iPhones. And for what? 3D Touch and an OLED screen, right? Is there more?
In addition to the LCD and rumored lack of 3D Touch, there’s no dual lens rear camera on the 6.1”. An A11 wouldn’t surprise me, either.
 
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Bro, all I'm saying is I wish that at the 699 price point, it could be an OLED screen, not LCD.

Apple likes it's margins. Around $700 will likely be the thoroughly-gimped option forevermore.

If OLED ever finds it's way down to that, Apple will have already rolled on to SD-OLED (super duper OLED) or similar for the "good" iPhones, probably at about $1500 per by then.
 
I wonder how much Apple is going to shaft users for the higher memory options.
Who says you have buy a product where you believe the manufacturer is shafting you?
LOL. This has more to do with increasing profit margins so Apple doesn't have to increase the ASP (Average Selling Price) of its iPhones in order to generate more profits for shareholders.
Sure. And every company under the sun always wants to pay its suppliers more than they have to.
 
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