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That's my point, the whole song and dance with going to all glass was for wireless charging. Now that they failed in that department, shouldn't they switch back to aluminum back? Much more durable and my gosh, so much lighter!

Yes, however, the iPhone 8/8+ and iPhone X, and then all the 2018 iPhones can still be wirelessly charged with third party wireless chargers. Apple is not going to go backwards and go with aluminum that cannot be used with wireless chargers because they failed on AirPower and screw all the people that like, and went out and bought and use wireless charging everyday.

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Christ, I'm so tired of that camera bump. Make the phone a few millimeters thicker to make the camera flush and, I dunno, add and extra 15% or so battery life in the process. It's a win-win.

And make it a "normal" sized phone for once. Tired of these phablet monstrosities.

I'm going to suggest that a module as big as what we are seeing should still have a slight rise, or molding, around it. Flexible cases will want something to lock onto. I imagine a TPU case would get pretty warped looking around a big, open square.
 
Not really sure i like the back of the phone but it won't stop me from upgrading my XS Max in 2020.
 
If we’re talking strictly aesthetics, nothing is as ugly as the iPhone 6 series.
Really? I always felt that way about the 5 and 5S.. hated the move from all glass back on the iPhone 4 and 4S to that two tone back look and it just felt like a cheap phone. I liked the way my 6S felt in my hand. I still kinda miss that phone.. Traded it for an X which is far superior, but the 6S never let me down. Was still quick when I traded it in.
 
The Apple watch is not Qi compatible sadly.

This is actually not true. Apparently Apple Watch Series 3 and 4 are Qi capable, and work with very certain Qi Wireless Chargers, however, it appears something in the software limits Series 3 & 4 from working with ALL Qi wireless chargers.

Here is an article that lists Qi chargers that work with Series 3 & 4. Really in the article the Vego is the only one that uses true Qi charging (it looks like AirPower) as from a quick look at the others, they appear to use the inductive charging puck built into their mats so you would have to set the AW right on the spot for it to charge and obviously that is not Qi charging anyway.

https://www.iphonefaq.org/archives/976295

You can look up other articles that support what I said on your own.

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Wonder if Apple will switch to aluminum rather than heavy glass back, given their failure with the charging mat.

Yea you can use any third party wireless charger, but it takes forever; beats the purpose
I don't think AirPower was intended to be massively faster than other charging mats, just more convenient in being able to set multiple devices anywhere on it.

When I upgraded from a 6 to an 8, wireless charging wasn't something I wanted at all. Then I figured I'd buy a $25 Anker charging stand to see what the fuss was about. Now I love it. You're looking at it ("takes forever; beats the purpose") through the lens I used to use - charging was a discrete event you had to plan for, and you wanted it to proceed as quickly as possible. I had to make the conscious decision, "this time when I set my phone down, I also need to also plug it in". That all changed. Now, if I set it down on the stand (the most obvious / convenient place), there's no deciding and no remembering, to plug it in, it's just charging. It doesn't matter that it's faster to plug it in, because most of the time it's just topping the battery up. There's no having the cable drag across other things if I pick it up to look at something - I just pick it up, look, and set it back on the stand, and it goes right back to charging. The situation of ,"oh, I forgot to plug it in", has simply vanished. I got the charging stand a perhaps a week after getting the phone, and I haven't plugged my phone in at home since, because the slower-but-omnipresent wireless charging is just so damned convenient.

Another benefit, if I understand correctly, is that fast charging is harder on the battery than slow charging. With charging no longer being a separate planned event that I have to wait around during, the need for fast charging has faded away.

You're looking at wireless charging as failing to win a race, when what it does, instead, is to make that race unnecessary.
 
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Here's an idea - let's put a phone inside a DSLR camera! Best pictures on the planet, and oh yeah, you can talk to people, too.
 
I wonder how or if 3rd party lenses will be able to be used on these new thre lens iphones?
 
Yeah, but if they put charging capabilities on the new iPhone it ought to support the Watch. It isn't Qi compatible but they should find a way to charge it through the phone. If it only supported AirPods it would be useless, if is way more likely you're running out of battery on the iPhone than on the AirPods, unless you forget to charge it.

As I pointed out to someone just a bit ago, Apple Watch Series 3 and 4, are in fact Qi capable. They only work with very certain Qi wireless chargers, but do work. From what I have read it has something to do with watchOS that limits the Apple Watches Qi capabilities.

Here is an article that will tell you Qi chargers that will work with Series 3 & 4. Also, you do not have to take my word for it as you can search for similar articles.

https://www.iphonefaq.org/archives/976295

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Yes. Blind leadership - there is no visionary at the helm. Apple is looking at trends, complying with them, then tosses out a few things to see what sticks.
It’s not easy to appeal to such a huge market. It was a lot easier to come up with sth innovative during Job’s era when Apple basically had no foot on the mobile phone market. These days Apple has to come up with a new phone every year that appeals to hundreds of millions of people. If they do anything drastic, it would either alienate their costumers or be completely impossible from a manufacturing perspective (since they need to produce huge numbers).

Honestly, I don’t think there is a lot that Apple could do and anything drastic takes time.
 
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" will have a thicker body to compensate for the larger camera module "
English, please: to accommodate, not to compensate.
 
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That's my point, the whole song and dance with going to all glass was for wireless charging. Now that they failed in that department, shouldn't they switch back to aluminum back? Much more durable and my gosh, so much lighter!
The iPhone 4 had a glass back, and mine never had any problems with durability. There is a line of thinking that, "well, of course everyone knows metal is more durable than glass" - I don't know that that is necessarily true, in this case, and Apple surely has a lot of data to work from. Having glass on both sides distributes the shock of an impact uniformly ("perfectly balanced, as all things should be"), rather than having a rigid back help concentrate the force into a (necessarily) glass front.

And they didn't fail in the wireless charging department - the phones do a terrific job of charging wirelessly, and this makes a lot of customers happy - would you rip that away from them just because Apple's charging mat design (which was trying to solve a particular problem - random placement - that no one else has taken on) didn't pan out?
 
If you thought about it for any time at all, you'd realize that there are multiple reasons why having the camera module in the corner is better for functionality.
If you'd read my quote for context, you'd have realized I was addressing the look of the module, not the functionality. I wouldn't be addressing the functionality because I'd have no idea what functionality Apple intended to incorporate. But yeah, go ahead think about it for me and make up some functionality that you think justifies that placement. Pretty sure someone else will come up with reasons why you're wrong. In the interim, I'm going to stick with the opinion that it's ugly.
 
You read it correctly and I think it is wrong. Why would they release 5 new models this year? What's the point in updating the Xs and Xs Max and release two similar models with triple camera?
More likely they'll have Xs and Xs Max at lower price points, the Xr (maybe an updated version) and those two new flagship models.

I agree with you @recoil80. I do not think we are going to see five all new models. This is obviously just my opinion but I think Apple will continue to sell the XR, XS/XS Max at a lower cost, and then introduce the iPhone XI, XI Max, XI-R (or whatever they will name it). Personally I think that the "R" naming scheme will stick with that version of the iPhone all the time as opposed to how the "S" naming scheme happens every other year. Also, once again in my opinion, this might be the year that we see an iPhone Pro, with tech like ProMotion, the ability to use FaceID in both portrait and landscape mode*, and 1TB of storage among some other really "magical" features that will cause it to be named "Pro."

So really we will see three new models, the XI series. Then possibly an iPhone Pro...so maybe, and I stress maybe, we will see four new models.

*I really hope they bring the ability to use FaceID in both portrait and landscape in the XI series models, but we all know how Apple is, so that will be reserved for just the more expensive XI/XI Max (and not the XI-R since it is the cheapest model) OR if there is an iPhone Pro, it will most certainly be limited to that model.

Clearly all speculation on my part, but isn't that what we are supposed to do on these speculative articles, haha!

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The least I expect from these overpriced iPhones is the introduction of USB-C port for faster data transfer to PC. But it would really be a huge shame if they stick to antiquated Lightning port which can’t even do USB 3 speeds. They did it with last year’s iPad Pros why not with iPhones this year? How much fragmentation do we need in Apple land?
I only use the lightning port for getting audio to my car stereo unit with the headphones adapter. Otherwise, it doesn't get used. I use Qi chargers and the phone backs up to the cloud.
 
So, 5 models for 2019? If that's the case, I guess Apple really wants to get rid of TouchID iPhones ASAP.
Imagine for 2019 lineup, all current iPhones are replaced.

- 5.42" iPhone XSE, A11, 32GB base, $499
- 6.06" iPhone XR Series2, A12, 64GB base, OLED screen, dual camera, $599; XR Series2 Max, 6.67", $699
- 6.1" iPhone XI, A13, 128GB base, triple camera, $899; XI Max, 6.5" $999.

Transition to FaceID, complete.
Transition to Apple-custom GPU, complete.
 
The least I expect from these overpriced iPhones is the introduction of USB-C port for faster data transfer to PC. But it would really be a huge shame if they stick to antiquated Lightning port which can’t even do USB 3 speeds. They did it with last year’s iPad Pros why not with iPhones this year? How much fragmentation do we need in Apple land?

Why only USB-C? It should be a thunderbolt 3 port!
 



In a fresh twist on recent iPhone rumors, Japanese tech blog Mac Otakara today reported that Apple plans to launch two entirely new 2019 iPhone models with triple-lens cameras, which would debut alongside internally updated versions of the current iPhone XR/XS/XS Max lineup.

Dear Apple,

I don’t need a camera with smartphone capability. I have a perfectly good watch on my wrist that gives me all the phone functionality I need (called an Apple Watch). Anything that I need the “Smart” portion for, is better done on my other iOS device called an iPad. It has a larger screen, better audio, works with real keyboards, lasts longer...

When I need a camera, I use a camera. Most of the time I use my Olympus TG-5. If it’s stolen, I don’t have to worry about anyone getting anything more than pictures out of it. It’s cheaper to replace. It’s easy to transfer pictures over (there’s an iPad app for that), and the camera is designed around being a camera (not a phone that is also a camera).

Focus on improving the phone capability of the Apple Watch. Focus on making headphones/mic smart enough to swap between the iPad and the watch. Focus on making the lightest thinnest phone there is, the nonexistent one. The iBrick that I am no longer required to carry with me because of two applications, Watch and CarPlay. Put those two apps in the next iPad so that I no longer am REQUIRED to have an iPhone. You claim to be pro environment. Prove it. Make it so that I am not required to lug around something useless.

All it takes is putting two apps on the iPad so that I can move in to the post iPhone era. I don’t want to carry one around anymore. Some people use an iPhone instead of an iPad and watch. I’m not one of them. Don’t MAKE me HAVE to carry an iPhone. Please.
 
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Tim Apple: "Triple the cameras and triple the price!"

Forum readers months ago: "An Android phone that has 3 cameras? That's so stupid."
<months later when Apple does it>: "Wow this is a game-changer!"
 
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What if that lens design offers photo quality that's off the charts? Do we really look at the back of our phones that often? I guess I would rather have a better camera, versus the award for best looking phone back.
 
What if that lens design offers photo quality that's off the charts? Do we really look at the back of our phones that often? I guess I would rather have a better camera, versus the award for best looking phone back.
If the camera is as good as p30 Pro people won't care you're right but if it's slightly better than the max then yeah they will get destroyed for it
 
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