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The Wall Street Journal has confirmed that Apple is planning on introducing a triple-lens camera system in at least one of the new iPhones coming this year. In addition, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has said both the 5.8 and 6.5-inch OLED iPhones will feature triple-lens rear camera setups with a 12-megapixel telephoto lens, a 12-megapixel wide-angle lens, and a 12-megapixel super wide-angle lens.

This makes for one ugly phone.

But, I wouldn't mind if it improved photos, especially low-light photos.

If there is an improvement in the photos, and the camera bump is flush with the body, then I would welcome the change.
 
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The thing is, Apple doesn't really care if you like it or not.

The exact same thing happens almost every year - when the 7 Plus leaked it looked so strange with its long camera cutout, then again the X and now this.

I personally don't care, mostly because I'm not upgrading but because I don't find it that ugly.
 
I would welcome 2 cameras but much better/bigger sensor. I like the portrait features on XS but the output is same quality as I had in iPhone 6 and 7. Using the camera in lower light (eg. artificial light at home in the evening) produces artifacts and noise.
 
I totally agree. My first smartphone and iPhone was the 4s. Then I hung on to that for 4 years (though the last year was rough) and then got the SE. That was a massive jump:

-better camera
-bigger screen (but still fits great in my hand and pocket)
-more RAM
-Touch ID
-faster CPU and more responsive
-motion processor
-ability to do Apple Pay (which I don't use)

I've had it for three years now and I just got a new battery put in the SE. iOS 12 works fine on it, so I can see myself using this for at least another year, if not two.

I really don't get the yearly or even every two year upgrade cycle. Is the improvement really enough to justify the expense of the Apple tax that we pay, especially for those of us regular consumers who don't really do professional level work which require top-level performance?

I've gone through the same thing with the iPad. My first one is the iPad Air that I got in early 2014 and it still works. Recently when the new iPad Air (10.5 inches) was released, I got the iPad Pro 10.5in from 2017 (256GB), as several people online recommended. It works great so far and I can see myself using this for another 4-5 years easy if I don't damage it. It's also a fairly big improvement from the original Air in several ways, so it's worth the money for me.

I'm still using my first MacBook Pro, non-retina from 2012, upgraded to 250GB SSD and 8GB RAM. I finally upgraded from Sierra 10.12.6 to Mojave 10.14.4 about 10 days ago, skipping over the High Sierra issues altogether. Overall it's been going for nearly 7 full years now, and besides the two dead hard drive cables and the time the RAM chips somehow popped loose, it's been pretty good. I'm holding onto this as long as it works and does what I need it to do.

When it finally comes time to replace it, if Apple hasn't fixed the butterfly keyboard problem plaguing the new MBP since 2016, then I'll look into getting a 2015 MBP. I can't wait weeks for my keyboard to get fixed.

four years seems a good cylce for the phone. ipad even longer and mac way longer. 4 6 8 - and i guess many people follow that cycle. the yearly thing is just hype. you sell your old to someone else but the MEGA cycle keeps the same.
 
All these posts reminds me of an old Mad Magazine cartoon-strip, where the Shutterbug-Father drags his family along on vacation. They bitch and moan over having to constantly stop and 'take yet another family photo' with the Dad seemingly being a pain in their side. His only verbal reply to their complaints was a muttered, "... I know... I know..." while peering through the viewfinder and clicking the shutter-button at each attraction.
In the very next panel... the family is gathered back at home marveling over all the vacation pics taken, and how wonderful they look standing in front of the various statues and monuments. The dad simply winking with a little knowing-smile and a quietly muttered, "...I know...I know..." over to the reading-audience.
 
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I went from a 6S to the iPhone XS. I obviously saw a massive improvement.

At this stage in the game, the phones are so powerful and supported for so long, I really don't think you need to spend 1K every year. I mean. Many do just to say "Hah. I have the latest and greatest!", but if I don't break it, I see my XS staying with me for several years. Not because of 'ugly' design, but simply because I don't think I will need to upgrade. (and really couldn't afford to even if I wanted to lol.)
I agree. I think for me at this stage in the game, I'd actually feel a little embarrassed to admit to friends that I was dropping 1K a year on incremental updates. Not sure about the rest of the world, but here in the UK people wouldn't be impressed, they would just think you were a bit of a sad nob.

Also for me there comes a point where I would prefer my phone to look nice and sleek over camera improvements that are starting to make the device look ugly. Its at that point that a mobile phone can no longer make camera improvements without having a negative effect on the design of the phone. That should be the jumping off point from a mobile phone to a 'real' camera IMO, otherwise where does it end?
 
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Function over form : people complain
Form over function : people complain (even more)

All camera "holes" are ugly, but a necessity. I wonder why it needs to be a triangular configuration and not a stripe.
 
Smartphone cameras are not supposed to have three lenses. Or notches. This is absurd now. Notches and tri-cameras. Yo, Apple, design is about how it LOOKS, not how it WORKS. No one cares how it works. No one. Stop it. Stop it!!! No one is using an iPhone to be productive. Give us the bling already.
 
There goes the design team..

I'm just hoping this isn't accurate.

There is no way on earth that anyone at Apple looked at that design and said "that's beautiful!", and if Apple are starting to make big comprimises on beauty then I think it's safe to say we are running out of things to add every year.

Look at a current iPhone XS. The rings around the camera match the color of the back/steel frame.

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There is no way the new phone is going to have white rings around the camera lens. Apple has never done that before. So of course a bad render + a clear plastic case will look like an ugly phone. I guarantee the real thing won’t look like this.
 
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I don't understand comments like this. It's not like Apple is going to backtrack on a feature. When have they ever done that? This is just going to be an iPhone design feature for the foreseeable future.

I never said I wanted them to backtrack on a design. I simply said I don’t like the look of these leaks. I buy my iPhones for performance and looks. If this is what the new iPhones will look like, I won’t upgrade. My XS Max is sufficient enough to last for another year or two.
 
I agree. I think for me at this stage in the game, I'd actually feel a little embarrassed to admit to friends that I was dropping 1K a year on incremental updates. Not sure about the rest of the world, but here in the UK people wouldn't be impressed, they would just think you were a bit of a sad nob.

Also for me there comes a point where I would prefer my phone to look nice and sleek over camera improvements that are starting to make the device look ugly. Its at that point that a mobile phone can no longer make camera improvements without having a negative effect on the design of the phone. That should be the jumping off point from a mobile phone to a 'real' camera IMO, otherwise where does it end?

While I love having a camera in my pocket, a phone camera, whether it is made by Samsung, Apple, Huawei etc... is never going to compete with my Canon 5D. It's all just willy waving with regards to specifications, megapixels and lenses when it comes these things.
 
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The only good thing about this design is that it all but assures that the 2020 model will loose it. Apple needs to start doing some real world test groups before locking in the designs.
 
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That camera placement is really ugly to me...rather have them all in a row. If this is for real....I'll be holding onto my Xs Max another year....
 
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One word to describe it! Ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly ugly, ugly, Ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly ugly, ugly,Ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly ugly, ugly...
 
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Smartphone cameras are not supposed to have three lenses. Or notches. This is absurd now. Notches and tri-cameras. Yo, Apple, design is about how it LOOKS, not how it WORKS. No one cares how it works. No one. Stop it. Stop it!!! No one is using an iPhone to be productive. Give us the bling already.


So true. That notch is horrible. It's put me off latest iPhones and I went with iPhone 8 Plus ( The Last iPhone which was also a productivity tool as well) . I just can't stand having a chunk out of my display and they've tried to convince everyone its a thing of beauty. It's not. They could've put R&D into making a finger print scanner under the display that is as good as the Touch ID button and make the display truly edge to edge. And this triple camera setup as well? Jobs would never have let any of this pass. He would have pushed them to find a better way.
 
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I would welcome 2 cameras but much better/bigger sensor. I like the portrait features on XS but the output is same quality as I had in iPhone 6 and 7. Using the camera in lower light (eg. artificial light at home in the evening) produces artifacts and noise.

Given the size of that camera plateau, I see no reason why those sensors all can't be 12mp, at least 1.5u pixel size, and have 3-axis optical image stabilization.
 
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