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2020 Formula 1 Season Thread
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that would make a great tattoo. I’ll probably just put it on my wall in my garage as a motivational quote.
Wasn’t he just repeating what he said at his first win in Russia?
Its the only way they can stop Lewis. No doubt he is in the officials cross-hairs. How does he end up with so many points on his super license when the drivers that are always causing accidents have none. Grojean is a typical example.
Botas is a bit of a fool. His critics will point out that he most likely only won because the team didn't give Hamilton the tyres he wanted in Q2 (after the red flag) forcing him to start on the wrong tyres and then the team gave him duff information causing him to get 2 5s penalties. Hamilton was night and day faster than him in Q3. So he's still firmly No.2
Hamilton should really be venting his anger behind closed doors at his engineer after that silly instruction. His comments about the stewards should be seen for what it is and that’s a frustrated racing driver in the heat of the moment. They all say silly things and I can see why he was angry.
I thought the stewards were going to "take a step back" this season and let them race?
When a driver effectively loses the race (or any chances of winning it) because of a ridiculously harsh penalty handed out to for a non-event (i.e. nothing bad happened) BEFORE the race started, that's down right stupid. No way was what he did worth a 10s penalty.
I completely agree with Hamilton on this one. The FIA clearly want the championship to go down to the wire and this looks like it's the only way to do it.
When a driver effectively loses the race (or any chances of winning it) because of a ridiculously harsh penalty handed out to for a non-event (i.e. nothing bad happened) BEFORE the race started, that's down right stupid. No way was what he did worth a 10s penalty.
I completely agree with Hamilton on this one. The FIA clearly want the championship to go down to the wire and this looks like it's the only way to do it.
I did flashback to '94 Schumacer vs Hill ...
That said, I'll take the odd miracle to keep it interesting...
He can't. We will now see the real Lewis emerge from his cocoon. I knew this comment was coming as soon as the penalties were imposed. He's a good driver in a car that has dominated for the past 4 years. Once a Man Child always a Man Child.
The FIA should fine him for those comments.
I have not read or heard Lewis' comments. But, I often feel he moans way too much.
Yesterday, it was nice that he told Bono to not saying anything else, since it doesn't matter. My hope was he wouldn't saying anything to the media, and merely keep the conversation internal.
Clearly, that did not happen...
Yesterday, it was nice that he told Bono to not saying anything else, since it doesn't matter. My hope was he wouldn't saying anything to the media, and merely keep the conversation internal.
Clearly, that did not happen...
Yeah the Bono comment was fine and understandable. The media comments land poorly because he's been in the most dominant car for six years. He's winning another championship this season, he's going to break Schumacher's records and this is the attitude that comes out of him. I could understand if he was in a real championship fight but he's not. Would have served him better to keep it internal.
Let’s be honest. They all moan to much! They are paid a lot of money to do a job most of us would live to do for free.
I’d have been an F1 driver if it wasn’t for my lack of skill/bravery/ability to get in the cockpit!
I’d have been an F1 driver if it wasn’t for my lack of skill/bravery/ability to get in the cockpit!
It would be a pretty dull sport if the FIA fined every driver throughout the season for comments that some won’t agree with. You wouldn’t have personalities like Lewis, Verstappen and Seb to name just three giving interviews because the teams would be terrified the drivers were constantly going to get fined and banned. I’m sure you wouldn’t like that much like the rest of us wouldn’t.
I can’t imagine the current crop of fans like yourself coping with how the sport used to be lol. You’d have a fit seeing the behaviour from years ago before the PR robot nonsense.
Perhaps to keep fans happy like yourself the drivers should just cut themselves off from the media and not give interviews? Or at least once they have calmed down and revised all the boring standard responses to give to media questions?
I think part of the problem is the FIA doesn't really have a way to penalize the teams outside of hitting them with monetary fines. I know they stripped McLaren of all their constructor points in 2007 over their spying scandal, but has the FIA done a piecemeal point stripping?
And there is plenty of precedent in penalizing the driver for a team mistake, so applying the consecutive 5 second penalties with Lewis is in line with that precedent. I am glad that they reversed the license points when it became clear he did the practice starts under instructions from the team and not of his own choice.
And there is plenty of precedent in penalizing the driver for a team mistake, so applying the consecutive 5 second penalties with Lewis is in line with that precedent. I am glad that they reversed the license points when it became clear he did the practice starts under instructions from the team and not of his own choice.
The FIA have always had a very weak level of power over teams within the sport and without the Concorde agreement, there is nothing. This is why Bernie went to war on behalf of the teams in the 70’s and early 80’s with the FIA as it quickly became apparent without a contract like the Concorde agreement, the FIA had no power whatsoever over the sport. It’s still murky now and I think this is why penalties have never been consistent or in many cases fair across the board. McLaren’s 2007 fine was absolutely obscene in comparison to the crime of espionage and highlighted that the FIA was still very much about personal vendettas rather than a fair governing body.
Just for the record I’m 62 years old and remember Nicki burning at The Nurburgring in 76. So don’t date me too much. 😉
Lewis is nothing like those drivers.
After reading recent comments, I must admit a thought that popped into my mind -- "Is the U2 singer one of Hamilton's celebrity buddies, and did really he insinuate himself into the FIA situation(s)?" 😆
But no, I guess that's another Bono, though given that F1 has always been a soap opera, often political, it wouldn't have been a surprise for the singer to have chimed in. The circus thrives on that kind of thing, and the tabloid F1 press has plenty of fodder to fill column inches until the next race…or brouhaha.
But no, I guess that's another Bono, though given that F1 has always been a soap opera, often political, it wouldn't have been a surprise for the singer to have chimed in. The circus thrives on that kind of thing, and the tabloid F1 press has plenty of fodder to fill column inches until the next race…or brouhaha.
Just for the record I’m 62 years old and remember Nicki burning at The Nurburgring in 76. So don’t date me too much.
Lewis is nothing like those drivers.
You’ve gone very soft in your old age then that’s all I can say. Lewis is nothing like those drivers I quite agree, he’s established himself.
Another comment on the stewarts. Earlier this year at the Austrian Grand Prix Lewis and Albon came together "Front wheel rear wheel" while Lewis was overtaking and Albon ran off the track. A stewarts investigation got Lewis a five second stop go and 2 penalty points.
In Sunday Russian Grand prix LeClec and Stroll came together in exactly the same manner when LeClec attempt an ill advised overtake and Stroll crashed out of the race. No investigation and hence no penalty.
Lewis also got points for a similar incident with Albon in Brazil last year. Of course he also got 2 penalty points when he was called into the Pits by his team when they were not open.
I know the points have since been rescinded for the latest incident and i do admire that both Vettel and Verstappen said the points for this latest incident was wrong.
In Sunday Russian Grand prix LeClec and Stroll came together in exactly the same manner when LeClec attempt an ill advised overtake and Stroll crashed out of the race. No investigation and hence no penalty.
Lewis also got points for a similar incident with Albon in Brazil last year. Of course he also got 2 penalty points when he was called into the Pits by his team when they were not open.
I know the points have since been rescinded for the latest incident and i do admire that both Vettel and Verstappen said the points for this latest incident was wrong.