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Traditionally one gets in front then occupies the line and the passed car does not have to change direction. This was closer to cutting back in before the overtake is complete and expecting the overtaken car to alter course (if this overtake had been on the straight).

I knew this thread would eventually digress into a "Everyone is picking on Lewis."

It was a easy call for the Stewards. It went from being Noted, to Investigation, to Penalty fairly quickly for todays standards. There was no hesitation upstairs.

Albon was 1/3 a length ahead in the apex, and had the line. At that point Lewis was required to leave him room. He didn't. The result was contact.

It doesn't matter if it was Hamilton, Vettel, Bottas, Jackie Stewart, or Jim Clarke. Facts are facts. Albon had the line and was well ahead in the apex. Easy call for the Stewards.

Move on...... ;)
 
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Agreed. There is an argument to be made that Albon drove into the space Lewis was already driving into and expected him to change course to avoid the accident. However Albon was basically already punished by spinning and losing out on the podium. Should the punishment be equal: yes. But Albon already lost more than 5 seconds

I think a lot of those who disagree with this perhaps have never experienced the inertia of a car cornering at speed. If a driver appears around the outside and tries to drive into a disappearing wedge, it’s very difficult for the inside driver to take a tighter line when they are already moving towards the apex. The only way Hamilton would have been able to avoid a collision would be to brake heavily before turning in sharper and that’s a very difficult process in a time frame of less than a second.

A complete racing incident in every sense of the word.
 
Remember everyone brakes at the last possible moment, with the car at the very limits of grip. Saying Hamilton should have breaked more ignores this fact. Any more break and he’d have likely locked up.

watched it on both Sky and BBC and all of the ex-F1 racers who are now commentators said the same thing...racing incident.

Albon reminds me of a younger Verstappen, giving for every opportunity and losing out. With a bit more patience and choosing a better moment he could have got that podium.
 
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I think a lot of those who disagree with this perhaps have never experienced the inertia of a car cornering at speed. If a driver appears around the outside and tries to drive into a disappearing wedge, it’s very difficult for the inside driver to take a tighter line when they are already moving towards the apex. The only way Hamilton would have been able to avoid a collision would be to brake heavily before turning in sharper and that’s a very difficult process in a time frame of less than a second.

A complete racing incident in every sense of the word.
Braking heavily and turning harder mid corner can have interesting results. Had he done that he might well have spun. At the very least would probably had the back of the car start sliding and would have had to counter that and might well have just ended up hitting Albon anyway but with less control
 
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I absolutely see how that accident happened. It's an off-camber corner where the car naturally wants to drift out wide etc. I completely see why it happened and don't think it was a silly accident.

However. Albon was a nose ahead by the apex. So Lewis was well aware he was there. So Albon didn't just "appear". We were well beyond the point where braking has ended and we're into throttle application as well. So Lewis didn't drift into him under braking - he drifted into him under acceleration. As he applied the throttle the car drifted wider and hit Albon. This was well into the third phase of the corner. And the final point being that Lewis continued drifting out further too - so even if Albon had left more room, he'd have still run out of room, as Lewis eventually got the point where there was less than 1 cars width of room left between his car and the white line, at a point where Albon was ahead - and that's a direct rules violation. Lewis didn't need to slow down more into corner entry. He needed to slow down on corner exit. Which he was not wanting to do because Albon taking a more open line could throttle on earlier.

It wasn't intentional. It's understandable how it happened. It may not have happened in a corner where the camber was more forgiving. And there's absolutely no way Lewis would ever do that sort of thing on purpose. He's not that type of driver, or person. But it's still 100% Lewis fault and the penalty is justified.
 
I absolutely see how that accident happened. It's an off-camber corner where the car naturally wants to drift out wide etc. I completely see why it happened and don't think it was a silly accident.

However. Albon was a nose ahead by the apex. So Lewis was well aware he was there. So Albon didn't just "appear". We were well beyond the point where braking has ended and we're into throttle application as well. So Lewis didn't drift into him under braking - he drifted into him under acceleration. As he applied the throttle the car drifted wider and hit Albon. This was well into the third phase of the corner. And the final point being that Lewis continued drifting out further too - so even if Albon had left more room, he'd have still run out of room, as Lewis eventually got the point where there was less than 1 cars width of room left between his car and the white line, at a point where Albon was ahead - and that's a direct rules violation. Lewis didn't need to slow down more into corner entry. He needed to slow down on corner exit. Which he was not wanting to do because Albon taking a more open line could throttle on earlier.

It wasn't intentional. It's understandable how it happened. It may not have happened in a corner where the camber was more forgiving. And there's absolutely no way Lewis would ever do that sort of thing on purpose. He's not that type of driver, or person. But it's still 100% Lewis fault and the penalty is justified.

I agree with much of what you say but disagree with it being Lewis’s fault. For me it’s as clear as the day is long that both drivers contributed to the impact. Albon could have not accelerated too despite being slightly ahead. It’s easy for us armchair experts to say all these things though.

The question I have is; why do fans want to see drivers punished for accidentally hitting each other? Are we not watching racing anymore and more interested in the PR for each team over that? This is one of the reasons F1 is less interesting these days and for someone who has watched for more than thirty years, it’s sad to see this part of it evolve.
 
The question I have is; why do fans want to see drivers punished for accidentally hitting each other?

The problem is we all want Schumacher-style ramming opponents out of the race (or at least trying to) banned there has to be an allowance for 50/50 situations. In between is a lot of grey area and different stewards will view the same incident differently. There is a definite case of a set of permanent stewards who apply the rules consistently
 
I agree with much of what you say but disagree with it being Lewis’s fault. For me it’s as clear as the day is long that both drivers contributed to the impact. Albon could have not accelerated too despite being slightly ahead. It’s easy for us armchair experts to say all these things though.

The question I have is; why do fans want to see drivers punished for accidentally hitting each other? Are we not watching racing anymore and more interested in the PR for each team over that? This is one of the reasons F1 is less interesting these days and for someone who has watched for more than thirty years, it’s sad to see this part of it evolve.

If Albon hadn't accelerated then Lewis would have hit him sooner. Acceleration pushes the car out wider. Had Albon held back then Lewis would have hit him sooner, probably further up the car.

Regardless of all of that though, Lewis got to the point where there was less than 1 cars width left at the side of the track. And that I do think should be a punishable offence. I 100% agree with your idea of allowing the drivers to race - absolutely. But part of that is leaving a cars width so they can actually race. Lewis didn't do that, and managed to make contact with a car whilst doing it. Again, I'm not suggesting it was on purpose - absolutely not. That isn't Lewis style and it was a simple mistake. But he did run into a car which was alongside him, without leaving room for that car. 5 seconds seems about right - it's barely a penalty and only had a huge effect due to the safety car bunching the pack. It wasn't like he got 30 seconds a black flag.

Or put it this way - if Lewis wasn't punished then it means what he did would've been legal. And then you won't get any racing, since running drivers off the road would be just fine. 5 seconds for a mistake is completely fine IMO. A harsher punishment for anyone doing something on purpose.
 
The problem is we all want Schumacher-style ramming opponents out of the race (or at least trying to) banned there has to be an allowance for 50/50 situations. In between is a lot of grey area and different stewards will view the same incident differently. There is a definite case of a set of permanent stewards who apply the rules consistently

I don’t think we’ve got drivers with that mentality currently on the grid though have we? The closest is probably Vettel in terms of a recent deliberate impact but even that wasn’t intended to take out a rival. A lot of us have grown up watching drivers like Senna, Schumacher and Prost deliberately hit each other over the years and we can’t deny it was hugely entertaining and controversial, but was dealt with appropriately at the time.

Wheel banging whilst battling is what contributes to making the racing exciting and if the lightest of touches is going to be punished then it’s ultimately going to put drivers off taking chances and that impacts on the racing. Look at the racing from the 80’s and 90’s for instance. Many of those greats wouldn’t have gotten their WDC’s by today’s standards and would have gotten 10 second penalties for what we now look at as the golden eras of F1. Imagine Gilles and Rene putting on that show and then being demoted to 14th and 15th because it was just far too exciting lol.

I just find it immensely frustrating. I am a huge road racing fan where riders are far superior in terms of commitment and race in the purest sense of the word. Of course the differences are huge in terms of danger but I have to shake my head watching F1 which is perhaps the safest forum of motorsport get the cotton wool treatment even more than it needs.
 
If Albon hadn't accelerated then Lewis would have hit him sooner. Acceleration pushes the car out wider. Had Albon held back then Lewis would have hit him sooner, probably further up the car.

Regardless of all of that though, Lewis got to the point where there was less than 1 cars width left at the side of the track. And that I do think should be a punishable offence. I 100% agree with your idea of allowing the drivers to race - absolutely. But part of that is leaving a cars width so they can actually race. Lewis didn't do that, and managed to make contact with a car whilst doing it. Again, I'm not suggesting it was on purpose - absolutely not. That isn't Lewis style and it was a simple mistake. But he did run into a car which was alongside him, without leaving room for that car. 5 seconds seems about right - it's barely a penalty and only had a huge effect due to the safety car bunching the pack. It wasn't like he got 30 seconds a black flag.

Or put it this way - if Lewis wasn't punished then it means what he did would've been legal. And then you won't get any racing, since running drivers off the road would be just fine. 5 seconds for a mistake is completely fine IMO. A harsher punishment for anyone doing something on purpose.

Don’t forget we’ve had decisions in the past that would have gone in Hamilton’s favour here due to him having the inside line and maintaining the racing line. Drivers aren’t always watching their offside mirror whilst negotiating a corner either. It was always a rule when I used to do karting that the person in the outside had to be aware the driver on the inside had the priority to merge across. Had Albon carried a bit more speed going into the corner then he would have been clear but ended up in a disappearing wedge. I remember Alonso at turn 1 in Spa 2007 pushing Hamilton completely off the race track at the exit of the corner. He wasn’t penalised due to him being on the inside and having the racing line.

Stewards have never been consistent in F1 and lately (last 12 years) it’s often contributed to dumbing down the racing IMO.
 
In all honesty, I don't think the racing has been dumbed down. I think that's classic rose tint glasses looking back. We remember the 70s, 80s and 90s as little highlight reels - we remember the best bits in our minds. Where as we remember current races as a mix of great and terrible. Nobody talks about the god awful 90s Spanish Grand Prixs, or the fact Hungary produces 1 good race a decade, etc.

There are many things that were better in the old days. The looks of the cars, the sound of the cars, the natural feeling of the circuits, etc. I do think overall the sport was better in the 80s and 90s (although the 70s was debatable). But in terms of racing...I don't think it's any worse than it ever has been.
 
In all honesty, I don't think the racing has been dumbed down. I think that's classic rose tint glasses looking back. We remember the 70s, 80s and 90s as little highlight reels - we remember the best bits in our minds. Where as we remember current races as a mix of great and terrible. Nobody talks about the god awful 90s Spanish Grand Prixs, or the fact Hungary produces 1 good race a decade, etc.

There are many things that were better in the old days. The looks of the cars, the sound of the cars, the natural feeling of the circuits, etc. I do think overall the sport was better in the 80s and 90s (although the 70s was debatable). But in terms of racing...I don't think it's any worse than it ever has been.

I guess we can agree to disagree on certain points based on our own preferences. I don’t even watch the races anymore and that’s mainly because it’s not shown on TV in my country unless you pay a subscription. I do read about them as I’m interested and I watch clips on YouTube, like the Hamilton/Albon incident. I do think the racing is dumbed down and adding false features to encourage overtaking and super reliable engines has ultimately reduced the appeal for a lot of people. Less people are watching F1 these days for a number of reasons. The last I looked they’d lost over 20m global viewers and questions should be asked why this is IMO. Teams struggling to get investment and sponsor interest tells us all we need to know.
 
The question I have is; why do fans want to see drivers punished for accidentally hitting each other? Are we not watching racing anymore and more interested in the PR for each team over that? This is one of the reasons F1 is less interesting these days and for someone who has watched for more than thirty years, it’s sad to see this part of it evolve.

It is literally the only way to beat them.

I don't want it done on purpose though. And I usually want it to happen to teammates. For a while it was Benetton, then it was Ferrari, then McLaren, then Redbull, Now it's Mercedes.

What I really want is for one or two more teams to step up and be competitive.

That was such a nice podium. 3 teams instead of 2.
 
I guess we can agree to disagree on certain points based on our own preferences. I don’t even watch the races anymore and that’s mainly because it’s not shown on TV in my country unless you pay a subscription. I do read about them as I’m interested and I watch clips on YouTube, like the Hamilton/Albon incident. I do think the racing is dumbed down and adding false features to encourage overtaking and super reliable engines has ultimately reduced the appeal for a lot of people. Less people are watching F1 these days for a number of reasons. The last I looked they’d lost over 20m global viewers and questions should be asked why this is IMO. Teams struggling to get investment and sponsor interest tells us all we need to know.

The move to pay TV around the world, prices going up, and failure to harness the power of the internet for 2 decades explains the drop in viewers. You can't go from everyone having access to a tenth of the people having access, and having to pay extra for it and maintain the same numbers.

Ignoring the actual wheel to wheel racing (which I maintain ins't any worse), a lot of other things are. The tracks have less personality - are you going to pay to watch them go race in India on another generic stamped out track? Or do you want to see Nurburgring?

The cars are largely all the same - partly because of regulations, and partly because of the amount of manufacturer involvement. Do you want a screaming V12? A whine of a V10? The roar of a V8? Well who cares what you think - Renault and Mercedes don't want that because it isn't good for buisness. They want quiet little hybrids that they can pretend are green and eco and other marketing terms to sell road cars. In 1994 nobody cared about manufacturers - it was Williams vs Benetton and Hill vs Schumacher. Sure Renault and Ford badges were on the car, but it wasn't a manufacturer battle. The engines did not get to dictate the entire shape of the sport - which is now what's happening. F1 is attempting to recoup the loss of 20 million viewers by finding the cash elsewhere - Mercedes and Renault are willing to throw money at the sport, and in exchange, the sport has allowed them to call the shots. And that's why the engines are super expensive and super reliable too. It doesn't look good when an engine blows up.

You want to fix F1? Drop the manufacturers. Simple as that. It sounds mad, but F1s best times have been when private teams ruled the series. And this applies to all motorsport - BTCC and WEC both allowed manufacturers to call the shots too much. And then costs got out of hand, the manufacturers left and the sports died. And lets be honest, we're on the verge of losing teams like Williams and McLaren right now - we're close to a major issue with F1, and it's 100% down to the engine problems.

You want F1 back to glory years - decouple it from the idea of road car technology. Sailing doesn't feel the need to pretend it's relevant to the shipping industry. So lets drop the idea of F1 being marketing and technology development for road cars and have it go back to being a proper sport. How do you get the manufacturers to sod off? Mandate rules they won't like. "Ok chaps, starting 2022, the new engines are V8s, V10s and V12s, and you can have a turbo or NA if you want. You have 100kg of fuel to last the race - work it out" (Basically old Group C fuel regs). Mercedes, Renault and Honda won't build those. That's bad for business. They'll leave and be replaced with companies like Judd and Gibson. And the prices will be cheaper, since the underlying tech is simpler and not being bank rolled by manufacturers.

Give F1 back to the teams, and not manufacturers and suddenly a lot of problems are solved. On track action is fine. It's literally everything around it that's the problem. But it won't happen - because Mercedes and Renault bring too much money to the sport. F1 won't take the short term hit for the long term gain. Exactly what the ACO did with WEC, and what IMSA is currently doing with the main series.
 
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The engines thing is interesting. I would be in favour of a formula that dictated far less in terms of engine type but instead allowed a certain amount of energy at the start of the race: you can have X amount of petrol and X amount of kWh at the start of the race. You can have any engine and hybrid configuration you want.

However this would be very expensive as each engine/powertrain manufacturer would spend a fortune on exploring solutions. Which, in the end, would probably be very similar to what we have now unless way more fuel or kWh were allowed which would change the balance.

To ignore the global need to move to hybrid and eventually pure EV solutions though would be to consign F1 to be looked at as dinosaurs. 100Kg of fuel is way too much! Do we want F1 to be Formula-E? Not yet but eventually I think that is what it will have to become. But hopefully without spec cars
 
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The engines thing is interesting. I would be in favour of a formula that dictated far less in terms of engine type but instead allowed a certain amount of energy at the start of the race: you can have X amount of petrol and X amount of kWh at the start of the race. You can have any engine and hybrid configuration you want.

However this would be very expensive as each engine/powertrain manufacturer would spend a fortune on exploring solutions. Which, in the end, would probably be very similar to what we have now unless way more fuel or kWh were allowed which would change the balance.

To ignore the global need to move to hybrid and eventually pure EV solutions though would be to consign F1 to be looked at as dinosaurs. 100Kg of fuel is way too much! Do we want F1 to be Formula-E? Not yet but eventually I think that is what it will have to become. But hopefully without spec cars

You're right with the issues you've raised, but there are ways around it.

X amount of petrol and Y amount of hybrid power works. The problem is the hybrids are expensive due to the amount of money manufacturers are putting into it. But customer hybrid systems do exist - they've ran in LMPs before, over a decade ago. So you can easily have that as the solution. Off the shelf hybrid systems. You can even have a system setup so if you use more hybrid, you get less fuel - which is exactly what WEC did. WEC unfortunately let the manufacturers dictate too much - but the concept work. WEC and Group C regulations were not that different in terms of how they manage energy.

100kg is too much, you're right. I just pulled a random number out of the bag for sake of discussion. You say F1 could be looked at as if it's a dinosaur...but what's the problem with that? Sailing is using wind power. Ships haven't used that for centuries. It doesn't pretend to be relevant. Let F1 be a sport and not a testing ground for manufacturers and suddenly the costs plummet.

The manufacturers are also the reason we're being forced into markets that don't want races. F1 races in China because Mercedes want to sell cars there. That's it. Same with India. Same with Vietnam. Same with South Korea. These circuits were built in the hope they would be popular, because Mercedes and Renault see them as massive markets. Do you think Williams and Benetton cared about that? No, of course not. If you drop manufacturers dictating the sport then you'll also see a drop in the amount of Tilke-stamped circuits that F1 flies to for a couple of years and then drops when only 6 people and a cow turn up to the event.
 
I agree that you would need to balance kWh vs fuel and allow flexibility here. Some sort of balance of energy. Even allowing full EV or full IC if they could be made efficient enough although the regulations would probably be set so full EV was possible and full IC was not realistic.

I agree on the circuits although some modern ones seem ok (Circuit of Americas is fine). But the classics are classics for a reason!
 
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But there's the next discussion - why do you need hybrid and EVs in F1? Because manufacturers want it to sell cars? So...if the series isn't being run by manufacturers anymore, why do you need those engines?

Another thing to look at is some series are booming with popularity by going with different business models. LMP2, GT3 and GT4 are over-subscribed in every series they run (except LMP2 IMSA, because they killed the class to promote DPi). They can't get enough grid spots for the entries they want. A mix of Pro, Pro/Am and Am teams too. So why are these classes so successful with petrol engines? The fact relatively cheap customer parts are available is a huge part of that. You aren't forced to buy a $100m engine from Mercedes or Renault to compete. You can buy a $500k GT3 car and compete.

F1 couldn't get prices down less than a million a year for racing, obviously. But when you're spending $100m a year on engines, you have to ask who is benefitting from this. Is it the fans? No. Is it the teams buying the engines? Well, I'm sure Williams and McLaren will have a thing to say about prices. Or is it the people selling the engine? I bet Mercedes are pretty happy having guaranteed income from the engine they sell. Seems like we've got an engine formula designed by Mercedes and Renault which only benefits Mercedes and Renault. That's...interesting.

Keeping the costs astronomical is of course in Merc and Renaults favour too. It means they make more money, but also makes the barrier to entry impossibly high. No longer can you buy a Judd engine and stick a Yamaha badge on it - because Judd can't make engines that complex. So now you've locked down the engine choices to just 3-4 names. Back in the day there was more than 3 different types of Ford engines (which were just old blocks redone for most of it). So...who are these engine regulations for? Seems they're specifically designed to line the pockets of manufacturers, whilst they try and sell cars in the sport.

Simplify the engines and tell the manufacturers to go do one. You'll get more open regulations, more innovation, lower costs, most exciting sounding cars, and a calendar that the fans want, rather than one designed to sell cars. And then you'll get the series popularity back.
 
Where would the money come from in this new series? If the manufacturers pull out will the current sponsors stay? I don't know the answer to that. I think the manufacturers are leaving anyway. Formula-E is closer to what they want
 
Where would the money come from in this new series? If the manufacturers pull out will the current sponsors stay? I don't know the answer to that. I think the manufacturers are leaving anyway. Formula-E is closer to what they want

Where did the money come from, from 1950-20xx ?

One reason we don't have traditional product sponsors anymore is because it's worthless. You can't spend $50,000 to be on an endplate now, because when you're spending $100m on an engine, that $50,000 is ridiculously small. You lower the spending and you lower the income requirements, which means you open up the sponsorship opportunities again. Also, drivers are still bringing money into the sport through personal sponsors and such. They're paying for seats (pay drivers have always been a thing).

Also, back in the day, someone with a lottery win could build a racing car. They usually weren't very good, but it was possible. Now a lottery win won't even get you a single engine. Back in the day it could fund an entire season. So simply rich people who want to play in the sport could return - and we know there is options for this, because SRO and ACO have absolutely dominated that market. LMP2 and GT3 is filled with team owners and drivers who pay for seats and bring money. If you can get over 100 Am drivers paying for GT3 seats, and 50+ teams from rich people, you can get 1 or 2 to invest in F1. But right now they won't, because nobody outside of Gates and Bezos has F1 money anymore. Which is exactly how Mercedes and Renault want it.
 
Where did the money come from, from 1950-20xx ?

One reason we don't have traditional product sponsors anymore is because it's worthless. You can't spend $50,000 to be on an endplate now, because when you're spending $100m on an engine, that $50,000 is ridiculously small. You lower the spending and you lower the income requirements, which means you open up the sponsorship opportunities again. Also, drivers are still bringing money into the sport through personal sponsors and such. They're paying for seats (pay drivers have always been a thing).

Also, back in the day, someone with a lottery win could build a racing car. They usually weren't very good, but it was possible. Now a lottery win won't even get you a single engine. Back in the day it could fund an entire season. So simply rich people who want to play in the sport could return - and we know there is options for this, because SRO and ACO have absolutely dominated that market. LMP2 and GT3 is filled with team owners and drivers who pay for seats and bring money. If you can get over 100 Am drivers paying for GT3 seats, and 50+ teams from rich people, you can get 1 or 2 to invest in F1. But right now they won't, because nobody outside of Gates and Bezos has F1 money anymore. Which is exactly how Mercedes and Renault want it.
At least in the early days it was a much cheaper sport to be in. Cars were simple and did not need a team of 50 to start and run at the track. Let alone the hundreds behind the scenes. But Colin Chapman basically changed all that by bringing in sponsors. There is basically no way back now...
 
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At least in the early days it was a much cheaper sport to be in. Cars were simple and did not need a team of 50 to start and run at the track. Let alone the hundreds behind the scenes. But Colin Chapman basically changed all that by bringing in sponsors. There is basically no way back now...

Even just in the 90s. We had pre-qualifying. We had qualifying to decide if a car would even be allowed to qualify. Imagine that now. F1 never had an issue with sponsors from the 60s through until 2000. So why has it become an issue since then? It's since Mercedes, BMW, Toyota, Renault and Honda came in and pushed up the prices.

There is a way back. I've just laid it out. And we know it works because BTCC and ELMS have done it. They are literally using this business model. I didn't invent this - this isn't my opinion. It's how SRO and ACO have become the powerhouses they are now. What series don't use this and allow manufacturers to dictate things.? WEC and DTM. And how are they looking now? Oooo, not great are they. Interesting that.
 
I think F1 started to suffer in terms of sponsorship from 2008 onward when tobacco sponsorship was banned. Of course I'm all in favour of not advertising such a disgusting product but sadly it provided a huge income for the teams and effectively funded the huge development budgets they had. It also paid driver salaries, for example Phillip Morris paid for Kimi Raikkonen during his move to the Scuderia when he was demanding $50m a season. Combine that with the move away from FTA television in many of F1's core countries and you see the cracks starting to be exposed. Companies like Vodafone who pumped huge sums of money into teams like Ferrari and McLaren along with sponsoring actual races pulled out due to global exposure dwindling. The only big sponsors willing to pay more than most are the likes of Swiss banks and Rolex but I wouldn't mind betting many of those name their price. Red Bull seem to be able to print money due to being a very lucrative advertising company with an energy drink franchise strapped to the side. Even they have their own invested interested which are team-centric.

Fast forward to 2014 when the engines were changed to hybrids which sound much like a high revving lawnmower and we have yet another component that hasn't done the appeal of the sport any favours. Top speeds are higher but atmosphere and appeal is lower than it was in 2009 when privateers were a keen draw last time around. I would support getting rid of manufacturers and promoting reasonable budgets to allow true R&D to be nurtured. When a team like Williams is struggling to raise the operating standard of £100m a season you know spending has gotten out of control.
 
The question I have is; why do fans want to see drivers punished for accidentally hitting each other?

As I understand it, the Drivers and Teams are the ones who have wanted punishments handed out for infractions and pushed the FIA and their Stewards to be more aggressive in punishing any infraction in the interests of "fairness and consistency" rather than trying to look for nuance and ending up punishing one incident while not punishing another that looks to be identical at first glance.
 
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