If it’s significantly cheaper than the new MacBook Pros I’m interested.
I think face ID is only for touchscreen devices, for now.Everybody gets a notch … but NOBODY gets FACE ID !! #fail
Do we really think M2 would seem to step back from something branded M1 (Pro & Max)? Yes, I know how things have been done with A-series processors. But why not proceed directly to M2 Pro & Max instead of "only" M2... then wait-wait-wait for the equivalents of what was just released in M2 pro & max? Again, I understand how things have worked with A-series chips over the years but M is not obligated to replicate the A pattern.
Does iMac 27-30" roll out with M2 while laptops released about "6" months ago have "tangibly more power/capabilities?" Are we enthusiastic about that if that's how it rolls? Premier Apple desktops NOT as toe-to-toe powerful as 6-month-old laptops optimized for mobile/battery power?
And for what real purpose? Once the "power" cat is out of the bag, why somewhat put it back in? If Pro & Max are basically M-Series release 2, shouldn't release 3 build upon them in what amounts to 2-4 or 5 Macs to be updated: iMac 27-30, maybe Mac Mini, Pro and/or maybe hypothetical Pro Jr... plus one laptop model (air)?
I would think that other than those who really need new desktops, the reveal of Pro & Max begs for "waiting" on M2 Pro & Max if "only" M2 is rolled out in the next round. Unless I really needed a new Mac, I'd probably wait for Fall if M2 doesn't tangibly overrun these new M1 chips.
The trick with applying A-series updates is that, in general, the bulk of the products that use the new chip almost entirely roll out at the same time of year- FALL (with only a few exceptions). Here you have a diverse line of Macs that seems like they will NOT all get on a big annual release schedule... so which makes the most sense to get the "higher number" chip? To me, it seems the "power" Macs should have the most powerful chips. If M2 is not Pro & Max updated, would it be seen as the most powerful chip or would Macs not traditionally viewed as the most powerful Macs have the power Ms and the big desktops have what might be argued as a weaker one?
If we envision iPhone tick-tock like updates, would an iMac (bigger) roll out with M2 and then iMac 24" get M2 Pro & Max in the Fall? That doesn't seem to make much sense.
Or would we envision maybe M1 Pro & Max in these spring releases too?
Or the config CHOICES of new Macs with M2 OR M1 Pro & Max? It seems pretty easy to envision arguments flying against the new M2 because M1 Pro & Max have "more power"... unless M2 is better in the ways that Pro & Max are now... which then seems to effectively point to building on M2 Pro & Max vs. some M2 minus those goodies that came with those new chips.
None of this is any kind of attack on Apple. As a consumer of Apple products, I'm simply thinking out loud... and questioning the broad assumption that M-series will tick-tock just like A-series chips have. Given that computing devices mostly plugged in don't need optimization that phones/tablets need, I'm not seeing WHY that's an applicable assumption. Instead, I'm thinking we just had the second generation of M revealed to us. Wow! Very impressive gains!!!
The traditionally MOST powerful Macs that still need to transition seem like they should get a third generation that rises even higher in ALL the ways that these do. Else, what happens in the fourth round of Mac upgrades next fall: several with M1s now inherit the M2 and those upgraded in the spring get upgraded again to M2 pro & max or M3 in the Fall (2 iterations of iMac 27-30 in 2022 in only about 6-8 months)?
Or would laptops- like iPhone- generally lead with the most powerful M chips and desktops generally be behind a M-chip generation/iteration?
Regardless of naming and A-series tick-tock history, I would think the premier desktops of iMac (bigger) and maybe Pro probably MUST step up M again... not with a higher number printed on the chip but with equivalent pro & max power upgrade. Maybe M2 for Air and Mini and M2 Pro & Max for iMac (bigger) and Pro/Pro Jr?
I feel that adding US$400 to the cost of the machine would not be a good thing.I fear that ProMotion will not be included
The first pic of the Air is sexy. Thin and powerful like I want it.
Too bad Apple said they probably abandoned the idea of a 15'' or 16'' MB Air. Would've been so nice with a larger screen.
My guess is 8-core CPU being the only option. Helps with scale tooI think it is a real possibility that the current M1 Mac will get a $100 price drop or some sort of upgrade when the M2 comes out.
I think you're right... and I think the new "well" that the keys sit in will be a darker shade of whatever color the chassis is - similar to the two tone colors of the iMac front and back.I think it’s more likely that Apple will make the keyboard white instead of black, to match the design of the iMac.
If Apple refresh base MBP next year to the same chassis as present MBP 14" and put M2 8-core CPU 10-core GPU up to 16GB RAM with mini-LED an no touch bar for let's say $1499/$1599 that could be funny. Because that would be machine which would fulfil needs regarding the performance of all people who now upgraded from 2011 to 2019 MBPs. If you can stay so long with such slow laptops you clearly don't need CPU performance of M1 Pro&Max and M1/M2 is better (to much better) to what you already had. (Except for those who owned latest MBPs with high end discreet GPUs or are using highly RAM demanding apps - those people of course will utilize new Macbook Pros).Yeah I'm in the exact same boat, even upgrading from a 2012 model. I figure, if I'm not making the most of the very expensive 14 inch Pro and the new Air suits my needds, the Pro won't have lost much value so I could probably downgrade fairly easily.
I can see that happening.THIS is an idea. How about this? Come spring, they update the MacBook Air as you've said, and at the same time, update the current 13" MBP to the 14" MBP with new unibody without promotion. Both with m2.
They will be missing the extra GPUs.THIS is an idea. How about this? Come spring, they update the MacBook Air as you've said, and at the same time, update the current 13" MBP to the 14" MBP with new unibody without promotion. Both with m2.
I’m in the same position. MacBook Pro from 2014 needs replacing but I waited for Apple to fix the keyboard, the switch to Apple Silicon and now the redesign. The Pro and Max are overkill but I’m tired of waiting. Haven’t ordered yet as I also want to upgrade my iMac from 2015 and iPad Pro from 2017.It’s a shame they did not release it now. I probably won’t be using half the power of the 14 inch Pro I have just ordered but I didn’t want to wait anymore to replace my MBP from 2012
What makes you think spring for M2 Air? Rumours so far have pointed to late 2022.2022 Spring - M2 MacBook Air, Mac mini, iMac
2022 Summer / Fall - M2 Pro & Max MacBook Pro, iMac Pro. M2 iPad Pro
2022 ??? - M1 Ultra Mac Pro (could very easily launch after M2 devices are released)
Ooh! That’d look nice!I think you're right... and I think the new "well" that the keys sit in will be a darker shade of whatever color the chassis is - similar to the two tone colors of the iMac front and back.