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Halftime and wow… I knew the NFL tried to prevent the 3-peat whatever the cost, but this is ridiculous. 24-0… three TDs as a direct result of ref calls. 😳
And the Chiefs defense is already done, being so long on the field. Whenever they miss a new first down, the flag is there to make it happen. NHL playoffs for some quality sport are still far off.
 
Notice how the Chief's o-line is suddenly not so dominant anymore once they're forced to play a clean game? This is the line we saw during regular season, not the suddenly stout one in the playoffs.
 
Really didn’t expect them going so far preventing the 3-peat. Three TDs on the refs, and keeping the Chiefs defense so long on the field with gifted 1st downs when they couldn’t get one. The NFL is going to make billions with the Eagles winning vs the Chiefs, especially from the international market. They sure learned their lesson from the Patriots days.

I think we might never see a 3-peat, from any team when we see such interference. Wonder if they let the Chiefs come back next year or try to keep rotating the SB winners.

Notice how the Chief's o-line is suddenly not so dominant anymore once they're forced to play a clean game?
How so, when the similarity score for the O-line plays is >98% pre defense breaking the line vs the regular season, minus the last game vs. the Broncos when no starter played? At least for the 1st half of the game. Or do you mean after the defense did break through?
 
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How so, when the similarity score for the O-line plays is >98% pre defense breaking the line vs the regular season, minus the last game vs. the Broncos when no starter played? At least for the 1st half of the game. Or do you mean after the defense did break through?
They aren't getting away with holding like they did during their playoff run. I saw the same thing when the Patriots were on a tear. The middle of the pack o-line during the regular season, suddenly became the best o-line in the league during the playoffs. That Pat line held defenders more than a mother holds her baby.
 
Philly tomorrow…😆

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Onwards to the NBA, MLB, and the draft! Go birds 🦅
 
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I learned a long time ago it’s not worth my while to invest myself in any team. The emotional strain and even the satisfaction if they win is not enough. At most I will designate a team I’ve chosen for the playoffs and if they win, good, if not oh well. :)
 
Very true, Barkley wasn’t really a force. Hurts got in some good runs, but other than that the Chiefs D was solid against the run.

But I saw the score after three quarters was 34-6 in favour of the Eagles, that is a comprehensive pounding of the Chiefs offence by the Eagles defence. And it seems that the Eagles receivers were just better than the coverage.
 
Yeah, that was a good old fashioned ass whoopin'. Hard to imagine anyone thinking the refs gifted the win to the Eagles.
Plain and simple The Eagles dominated. My wife is a huge KC fan, but she has complained all season that the team had a lot of luck this season. There were several games where the score went back and forth and when the time ran out, they were on top. You can be a good, great quarterback, but you need some level of protection to work your magic. The Eagles were all over Mahomes, he being sacked 3 or 4 times.
 
Really didn’t expect them going so far preventing the 3-peat. Three TDs on the refs, and keeping the Chiefs defense so long on the field with gifted 1st downs when they couldn’t get one. The NFL is going to make billions with the Eagles winning vs the Chiefs, especially from the international market. They sure learned their lesson from the Patriots days.

I think we might never see a 3-peat, from any team when we see such interference. Wonder if they let the Chiefs come back next year or try to keep rotating the SB winners.


How so, when the similarity score for the O-line plays is >98% pre defense breaking the line vs the regular season, minus the last game vs. the Broncos when no starter played? At least for the 1st half of the game. Or do you mean after the defense did break through?

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or tounge in cheek here..... But this idea of a conspiracy where the NFL decides what team to move along is just wild and screams of tin foil hat nuttyness. Stop it. This is something that we've seen for years across all sports... Certain teams have superstars and are very well coached so refs tend to give them the benefit of the doubt and lean their way a bit more.... They are human after all and not robots..... Take for example the Michael Jordan and Bulls dynasty, they got a lot of calls because they were so good and expected to do everything right..... Brady's Patriots got calls all the time..... It just the nature of sports.. The NFL is not scripted and there are no conspiracies... Too many people would have to be in on it and it would be impossible to pull off.
 
I don't believe the refs helped that much @GrumpyCoder ...
It has nothing to do with believes, but with objective statistics and prediction models in specified confidence intervals. You can train and run your own models if you're into that kind of thing and see what the outcome it.

The interesting part is, that the Eagles defense was really good. Funny enough, they played exactly the same defense that the Buccs did when they won the SB against the Chiefs. Surprised to see that strategy still worked years later.

There are different types of penalties. Throwing a flag with the right call. Throwing a flag when it should not have been thrown. Throwing a flag and making the wrong call, e.g. offensive pass interference when it was a defensive one. And then there are situations when a flag should have been thrown, but wasn't. The later can't even be challenged and doesn't show up in any official statistics. If you include these in statistics, the Chiefs are among the most penalised teams in the NFL.

There have been several of these in the game, especially of the last kind. Those lead to new first downs of the Eagles. They would have been out otherwise, giving the Chiefs offense a new chance and the defense a chance to rest. You could see they were already dead tired towards the end of the second quarter, simply due to time of possession as a direct result of flags or lack thereof.

Then there is the lack of baseline to make such calls. The unnecessary roughness call never should have been one, it was a regular fight for the ball (no player had the chance to catch it). There was no risk of injury at all. When this is not called in other games, why is it called now? And why was it called in favor for the Eagles new first down? So, maybe that's how the refs call this thing in this particular game. But when Mahomes arm was hit for a fumble and the ball was long gone, he received a late hit in the facemask, causing his head to move back (risk of neck injury) and falling on his back with the risk of his head hitting the ground (potential concussion). So why is one called, the other is not? 20 years ago, they just would have let them play it out without any flag. That's fine, but as a ref, you can't have different baselines for calls in the same game or at least you should not.

There was a similar situation during an Eagles snap. The Chiefs player moved, a flag was thrown for neutral zone infraction. One of the close up video feeds clearly shows that the center moved his fingers/hand and the defense player reacted to it. Based on the games in the regular seasons, this would have been a false start. With modern NFL rules, the center is not allowed to do this. Again, 20 years ago, the center could have danced around before the snap and it would have been fine. Different baseline from different refs for different games.

Stuff like that should not happen. There need to be clear definitions and baselines for penalties. This got worse and worse the past few years. And as I said before, the technology exists to do this automatically and also catch all the things the refs on the field don't see (or don't want to see). The NFL just doesn't want it and makes claims the technology doesn't work. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...news/nfl-claims-technology-cant-spot-the-ball. This has been proven to be wrong over and over. First time I got in touch with such technology was in the Kumar lab at UPenn, ages ago. I've since used similar technology in my own lab. Technology is there, it works. The NFL wants the human component to make the decisions, ironically it's the one that makes the most mistakes, due to different baselines, because they can't see everything or due to bias. And that's what can cause a game to go one way or another. Several international commentators have said the refs must be joking and keep bringing up the question why technology isn't used, not just in the SB game, but the past few years.

And to be honest, there are only a handful of good games throughout a full season. The rest is just wondering about the refs. The NFL is nice for me, for statistics, detection- and prediction-models. So in other words, because of the math. As for sports, I'd much rather watch the NHL, but too many games at bad times and impossible to follow for me. The sunday games of the NFL are perfect for me, but for sports it's a clown show these days. I'll watch a few NHL playoff games and hopefully the finals and hope that the Oilers will finally make it this year. They really deserve it, just like the Niners in the NFL.
 
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Sure they did. They didn't let the Chief's o-line from get away with holding on all those Mahomes runs. Instead of 10-15 yards and a 1st, it's drive killing -10 yards. Half the penalties against the Chiefs were offensive holding calls.
The refs were quite bad yesterday (the offensive interference and pass interference calls early) but they were at least “fair to both sides” bad.
 
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Very true, Barkley wasn’t really a force. Hurts got in some good runs, but other than that the Chiefs D was solid against the run.

But I saw the score after three quarters was 34-6 in favour of the Eagles, that is a comprehensive pounding of the Chiefs offence by the Eagles defence. And it seems that the Eagles receivers were just better than the coverage.

Line play is the foundation of football. Control the lines, and control the game.

The Eagles got pressure on Mahomes without having to blitz, compromise their coverage elsewhere, and took away the Chief's biggest weapon.

The Chiefs game planned to stop Barkley, and did a good job containing him. Hurts would have to beat them, and he rose to the challenge. The Eagles offense chewed up a lot of time on the clock, kept Mahomes off the field, and the Chiefs defense on the field.

Force turnovers, capitalize on them, and the chances of winning get even better. (Commanders/Lions)

As Hurts said after the game, defense wins championships, but he did his part as well, to make it a blowout.

It was an old school butt whipping, and the rest of the league, especially in the AFC, should take notice.

Allen and Burrow can be good, if not great and can score a lot of points, but Mahomes is even better than them, so until their teams able to stop him, as the Eagles did, they'll still continue to lose to the Chiefs.

The upcoming draft is said to be rich in D-line talent (QB, not so much), so coming off this game, I imagine what's old will become new again.
 
An interesting graphic/statistic was mentioned during the game, that said 10 years ago the average player weighed 245 lb, and now it’s up to 330 lb. I have to wonder if this increased weight reduces the viable length of the career of the football linemen, and maybe their lives? Saw a KC guy leave the game early with a brace on his knee. You get bigger, but do your bones or your heart, to support the extra bulk? I’m thinking no. 🤔
 
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