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it seems like Davis doesn't really care about the team
Yep!!!!
Sue happy Al David
Without Al, we would not have the NFC & AFC :)
 
This may sound completely deluded, but listening to ESPN this morning they guy said Trevor Lawrence finally gets it. The coaching has kicked in and he is playing at his best ever.
 
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Yep!!!!

Without Al, we would not have the NFC & AFC :)

Patently false.

Poor article, with a lot of Al Davis worshipping and hype.

I get the feeling if Al Davis was still around and came to a sudden halt, the author (amongst others) would end up Al's backside.

In 1966, Davis became the head coach and general manager of the Raiders, a role he held until 1971.

I stopped reading after the above quote.

And the majority of AFL owners wanted the merger. It would have happened without Davis.

Read the below, from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Davis

It thoroughly explains Davis' disdain for Pete Rozelle.

FL commissioner (1966)​

Main article: AFL–NFL merger
By the end of its sixth season in 1965, the American Football League had overcome its initial status of bare-bones survivor to become a significant rival to the NFL. With a television contract with NBC and major stadiums constructed or being built, the AFL could afford to compete on equal terms for players with the NFL. Not all AFL owners sought a merger — Jets owner Sonny Werblin, for example, felt that with brand-new Shea Stadium and the young star Joe Namath at quarterback, his team could compete on equal terms with the crosstown NFL Giants. However, most AFL owners wanted to be a part of the older, better-established NFL, whose owners feared continued escalation of player salaries.[45]

While the AFL owners liked the league's first commissioner, Joe Foss, they had little confidence in his abilities at a time for struggle between the two leagues, and Foss resigned on April 7, 1966.[46] Davis, 36, was voted in as commissioner the following day,[47] and took the job with Valley's agreement, hired as a fighter who would win the war with the NFL. The owners, led by Chiefs owner Lamar Hunt, felt that Davis could put pressure on the NFL and force a favorable settlement. His biographer, Glenn Dickey, notes that Davis was deceived by the owners, "He thought he had been hired to win the war with the NFL. In fact, the owners only wanted to force a peace. They were quietly negotiating a merger while Davis was fighting a war."[48]

According to sportswriter Ken Rappoport in his history of the AFL, "Davis had a plan, and, considering the football genius the man would become, no one should have been surprised that it would work—brilliantly."[49] Davis's target in the war was the NFL's quarterbacks, arranging for AFL teams to sign star players, such as Roman Gabriel of the Rams, who would be free agents after 1966 although that season had not yet begun. Gabriel, with his AFL contract to begin in 1967, received an immediate $100,000 bonus. The signing of 49ers quarterback John Brodie was announced by Davis and the AFL.[a][48] These transactions increased the financial pressure on the NFL's weaker franchises, which faced the prospect of losing their best players in a year, or greatly increasing their labor costs. A merger agreement was announced on June 8 and Davis was greatly displeased with the agreement on two fronts. It required the Jets and Raiders to pay indemnities to the Giants and 49ers for establishing teams within their exclusive territories, and it also put him out of a job: the merger agreement immediately abolished the post of AFL commissioner. Pete Rozelle would continue in his post as NFL commissioner under the merger agreement. Davis had hoped to be named commissioner if any merger was reached; the result increased what already had become a dislike of Rozelle.[50][51]

Davis resigned as commissioner on July 25, 1966. AFL owners wanted Davis to continue serving as AFL President. AFL owners had explicitly agreed that the office of AFL President would be subservient to that of the NFL Commissioner, and Davis flatly refused to consider serving as a subordinate to Rozelle. Eventually, Milt Woodard (who was assistant commissioner under Foss)[52] agreed to serve as President of the AFL.[53]

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Did you catch the name of the 1st AFL commissioner?


Joe Foss.

WW II Marine Aviator, Pacific Theater, Guadalcanal
CMH winner.

Joseph Jacob Foss (April 17, 1915 – January 1, 2003) was a United States Marine Corps Major and a leading Marine fighter ace in World War II. He received the Medal of Honor in recognition of his role in air combat during the Guadalcanal campaign. In postwar years, he was an Air National Guard Brigadier General, served as the 20th Governor of South Dakota (1955–1959), president of the National Rifle Association of America (NRA) and the first commissioner of the American Football League. He also was a television broadcaster.

This is an outstanding video of an outstanding man. If you like military history, this channel has tons of great stuff

 
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So Tua sits for the rest of the season in Miami…

Giving the draftee backup his audition, or trying to preserve Tua for some kind of move, or even just save some of his short wick for the future if he remains with the team?

Either way, I heard his cap hit would be larger than the one Denver swallowed to ditch Wilson.

Tonight's game should be good. I don't think there's a clear front runner this season, or at least any sure favorite for champ, but this paint a clearer picture of the contenders, even if they all have some degree of paper tiger this year.
 
So Tua sits for the rest of the season in Miami…

Giving the draftee backup his audition, or trying to preserve Tua for some kind of move, or even just save some of his short wick for the future if he remains with the team?

Either way, I heard his cap hit would be larger than the one Denver swallowed to ditch Wilson.

Tonight's game should be good. I don't think there's a clear front runner this season, or at least any sure favorite for champ, but this paint a clearer picture of the contenders, even if they all have some degree of paper tiger this year.
Okay, so first of all he has an injury guarantee of $20 million in 2027 if he can't pass a physical in March, so it makes sense to not let him earn that.

Next, it would be rather large to cut him, yes. Post June 1 designation and it is like $67 million in 2026 and $38 in 2027. Still probably going to happen. I mean McD (who may also be gone) said he needed someone who played "convicted."
 
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Okay, so first of all he has an injury guarantee of $20 million in 2027 if he can't pass a physical in March, so it makes sense to not let him earn that.

Next, it would be rather large to cut him, yes. Post June 1 designation and it is like $67 million in 2026 and $38 in 2027. Still probably going to happen. I mean McD (who may also be gone) said he needed someone who played "convicted."
Ahh, so he wants Aaron Hernandez at QB?
 
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Seahawks' helmet was pretty cool last night. And a crazy game too!

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a lot of Al Davis worshipping and hype.
That's normal and playing down his role is also normal :). Sort of like the Tom Brady hype, sure Brady was great but was it due to just him or the team around him thing. Lol, hope that made some kind of sense.
It would have happened without Davis.
Maybe but it didn't.
 
The donkeys unis are an assault on the eyes.

The Falcons unit look stupid with ATL on front. I guess it’s so their fans know it’s their team. It’s understandable, given the school system. It should be mandatory for the Raiders, so the fans can remember where the team last relocated to.

Looks like it’s Houston’s turn to beat a dead horse.
 
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The donkeys unis are an assault on the eyes.

The Falcons unit look stupid with ATL on front. I guess it’s so their fans know it’s their team. It’s understandable, given the school system. It should be mandatory for the Raiders, so the fans can remember where the team last relocated to.

Looks like it’s Houston’s turn to beat a dead horse.
When the donkeys and the falcons wear their throwbacks though... mwah*!


*chef's kiss noise
 
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