Yes, but did they have bears and moustaches? That's a much more interesting question...
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300 Movie
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haha ^^^ what??!
i think we should forget about the exact details of this but IMO, the jist of the story is true and thats what matters. A small number of spartans and greeks against great odds of over 100,000 persians managed to kill many and hold off their assault for other greeks to survive.
to me, it doesnt matter if it was 300 spartans or 10,000 with out without bears or beards. it doesnt matter if the spartans actually had slaves and the persians didnt. its based off a graphic novel so i dont expect it to be true at all.
i think we should forget about the exact details of this but IMO, the jist of the story is true and thats what matters. A small number of spartans and greeks against great odds of over 100,000 persians managed to kill many and hold off their assault for other greeks to survive.
to me, it doesnt matter if it was 300 spartans or 10,000 with out without bears or beards. it doesnt matter if the spartans actually had slaves and the persians didnt. its based off a graphic novel so i dont expect it to be true at all.
Yes, which is a big reason it was done and the reason it was done the way it was done.
Do you object to the message or that it was presented as well as it was?
I just made the huge mistake of going to see this film. Almost certainly the most exploitative and degenerate piece of work I have seen. A veritable panderfest. I walked out.
I really wanted to walk out, but I was with a bunch of my friends and would have wound up sitting in the theater lobby for an hour waiting for everyone else to finish watching the movie.
I think your word choice in 'degenerate' is spot on.
It really failed on numerous levels...before seeing it I was expecting it to compare on similar lines to Braveheart, Gladiator and Troy. The problem with 300 is that the plot is nonexistant, the characters are undeveloped, the visual effects are alright, but ultimately repetitive and not as good as Braveheart's battles. The movies I expected to compare with 300 were better on every single level, hands down. 300 just seems to insist on itself, screaming at you (as every line of dialogue seems to be delivered) to believe that it is an epic movie, when really it is absolute garbage.
The trailer is a more worthwhile cinematic creation than the movie itself.
So, I was wondering... what movies have you made lately. I'd like to find an example of your work. You sound like you know what you are talking about. *Sarcasm*I really wanted to walk out, but I was with a bunch of my friends and would have wound up sitting in the theater lobby for an hour waiting for everyone else to finish watching the movie.
I think your word choice in 'degenerate' is spot on.
It really failed on numerous levels...before seeing it I was expecting it to compare on similar lines to Braveheart, Gladiator and Troy. The problem with 300 is that the plot is nonexistant, the characters are undeveloped, the visual effects are alright, but ultimately repetitive and not as good as Braveheart's battles. The movies I expected to compare with 300 were better on every single level, hands down. 300 just seems to insist on itself, screaming at you (as every line of dialogue seems to be delivered) to believe that it is an epic movie, when really it is absolute garbage.
The trailer is a more worthwhile cinematic creation than the movie itself.
I wanted to ask you the same question I asked the other guy. Which studio do you work with? Have we seen your work at any of the most recent festivals?
I personally found it entertaining but then again I did not go watch it to critique it like I was pretending to be an expert reviewer. I went looking to be entertained and to enjoy myself. I've often found that some movies so-called experts think are trash turn out to be extremely entertaining and popular by the movie going public.
I have a bit of a revelation to give you. The writers and directors are not interested in making artsy pieces of garbage that self-proclaimed experts would find interesting, they are creating movies for the general viewing public.
I suppose you consider Shakespeare to be some of the most exploitative and degenerate pieces of work and veritable "panderfests" as well? After all, his plays were written for the common folk and they were chock-full of droll sexual puns. They were certain to pander to the most common of tastes.
Yes, my point is that you do not have a clue of what most people would find enjoyable. Alternatively, you could have secretly enjoyed the film but you felt it necessary to give us the false impression that you knew better than the common man and that you were somehow above it all. Quite frankly, I would tend to lean toward the latter explanation and I find it quite amusing to watch.
I also had a good laugh when I saw one snob coming to the defence of another. I did not direct that comment toward you but it is interesting that you felt the need to respond.
I don't expect you would attend any festivals where my work is shown if you enjoy crap like 300.
I went to be entertained, too. I wasn't.
What you know about Shakespeare could evidently be written on the head of a very small pin.
Yes, my point is that you do not have a clue of what most people would find enjoyable. Alternatively, you could have secretly enjoyed the film but you felt it necessary to give us the false impression that you knew better than the common man and that you were somehow above it all. Quite frankly, I would tend to lean toward the latter explanation and I find it quite amusing to watch.
I also had a good laugh when I saw one snob coming to the defence of another. I did not direct that comment toward you but it is interesting that you felt the need to respond.
I don't understand - are you criticizing his opinion? Or that he gave his opinion?
... you didn't happen to make this movie, did you? Hey man, don't worry about the criticism, it's still making money...
Classy. I'll just let your own words speak to your character.
I will say this, had you been a contemporary of William Shakespeare, you would have hated his work as as much as you hate modern films.
I see that I hit a nerve.
There is nothing wrong with not liking the film. It is a matter of taste. What i took exception to was how he was characterizing the film as if he knew what he was talking about or that he was better than the rest of us "proles".
I had nothing to do with the film nor would I ever make such a claim. I just have a problem with snooty armchair experts.
Right. You might want to loosen that bow tie on your avatar. I think it is constricting blood flow to your brain.
So you took the time to give your armchair expert opinion of a poster who you judged to be an armchair expert?
Really? Did you get your money back?
I thought the images of the film were incredible, i.e. the boy and the wolf, the oracle dancing/contorting underwater, the battle elephants falling off the cliff.
People should at least be able to appreciate the art of the film and the technicalities to get those images on screen.