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3D Printed Head Fools Android Face Recognition, iPhone X 'Impenetrable'

ahaslam said:
I wish Apple would give us another option beside Face ID.
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"I wish Apple would give us another option beside (insert anything here)" is also an acceptable answer.
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Scottsoapbox said:
Sick burn! Unless you've heard of dropbox, own a surface pro, or don't revolve your life around texting. But you go man, keep thinking everyone uses tech just like you.
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Dropbox doesn't integrate anything like iCloud.

Surface Pro? Based on sales so far, that takes care of about .01% of users.

I don't know a single smartphone user that doesn't use texting more than any other feature.

There are so many better examples than the ones you picked.
 
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This doesn't specify the settings used on the Android phones. Was only Intelligent Scan turned on for the S9? This only allows unlocks when it can detect both the face AND the irises.
 
farewelwilliams said:
They never showed the setup of Face ID in this vid:

I can easily recreate this. I first setup Face ID with my face. Then I try to unlock using the mask. Of course iOS will deny access, but once you put in the PIN code, FaceID will learn that the mask is acceptable and will allow access on next try with the mask.

This is nothing more but to raise the profile of the company.
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Why go through the trouble. If a hacker has your pin. They don't need the mask.
Like saying, my password is 55 characters long with all kinds of special symbols, not my name or anything that makes sense. But, I write it down on a post it next to my monitor and don't expect anyone to try it on my computer.
 
Mc0 said:
Where’ Huawei mate 20pro. They should have included that phone.
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The Mate20 Pro's facial recognition system is basically the same as the iPhone X/XS system and so I would expect it would perform similarly. Every Android OEM is free to implement their own versions of face unlock, so no surprise that some are better than others.
 
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az431 said:
Not anticipating anyone going through the trouble of making a 3D head to get into my phone.
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eheh i loving Face ID as much i've loved Touch ID.
 
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YaBe said:
I lock my device to prevent a thief to get my data, good pin number, face ID or touch ID they all work and are 100% secure for my use (one might be more practical than other).

I do not lock my phone to prevent the police to see my data (they have means to obtain that no matter what security is in place), so i really thing this all argument is silly.

I seriously doubt ANYONE would go to all this troubles of printing my 3d face just to get what a couple of emails and data?

People here make a big deal out of security, the real thing is who are you protecting yourself from? I protect myself from Thieves and people around me, all people who would not have access to this tech anyway!
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Exactly, if the security is good enough to handle hackers stealing critical data from my mobile, I am fine. I don't unduly bother about law and order point of view. They obviously can and will access the content if they eventually want to. Nothing going to stop that.
 
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Amacfa said:
What he’s saying is it’s superior integration. Apple has a better ecosystem and products work better together than any other. Sure you can probably do *some* of the same things, but the integration just sucks.

Sorry if that makes you mad.
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And Mac with just over a 7% market share means most IOS users don't own a Mac so integration means donk except for a few.
 
dontwalkhand said:
You also lose out on iMessages, integration with the Mac and iPad, and having to rely on Google for services because iCloud is now out of reach.
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Lol, it's funny you try to frame getting rid of apples crappy cloud services as a negative

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Abazigal said:
I think it’s telling for my banking app allows me to unlock the app using Face ID for iOS devices but not with face authentication features on android devices. Apple put in the hard work to make it every bit as secure as Touch ID, if not while, while android smartphone OEMs simply crammed in said feature just to tick off a feature checkbox.

And people still go around conflating the two.
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Except it's not remotely as secure as touch id......sooooo
 
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groadyho said:
And Mac with just over a 7% market share means most IOS users don't own a Mac so integration means donk except for a few.
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Integration/ecosystem means a lot more than just integration with a Mac. I don't own one and can definitely see the advantages of owning an iPhone, iPad, HomePod, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and AirPods. Everything works perfectly together.
 
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Wouldn’t someone either need your head or a 3d picture to print this? You would need the person to create the 3d picture and printed head.

What’s the point? Not seeing how this is a story since you have to have the person’s head to do this. What’s the point of printing a head when you can just hold it up to the person’s face.

I have an xs max.
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bleyten said:
Took 50 cameras to make a 3d printed head, wow, this really has me concerned
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This. This is really a stupid article. Even (some) iphone users like myself can see through this crap.
 
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wouwout said:
That's why every android phone warns you about face recognition security concerns, when setting up face recognition, and a fingerprint is obligatory for banking apps, Google Pay etc
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I know of two UK banks that warn that using Face ID for authentication voids their fraud protection.
 
DNichter said:
Integration/ecosystem means a lot more than just integration with a Mac. I don't own one and can definitely see the advantages of owning an iPhone, iPad, HomePod, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and AirPods. Everything works perfectly together.
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Most iPhone users don't own most of those except maybe airpods.
 
BeforeTheMeds said:
Wouldn’t someone either need your head or a 3d picture to print this? You would need the person to create the 3d picture and printed head.

What’s the point? Not seeing how this is a story since you have to have the person’s head to do this. What’s the point of printing a head when you can just hold it up to the person’s face.

I have an xs max.
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Exactly this. You have to think about how it applies to you and your devices. Nobody is going to get a 3D mask of my face without me knowing about it. Also I don’t see anybody going to all that trouble to get into my phone. My information isn’t that important. I’m not a government spy.

Even on a more basic level. I’ve heard reports of some facial recognition systems being defeated by a picture. The only person who is likely to have a picture of me are members of my family who already have access to my phone, or I would be happy to give it to them and friends. I the grand scheme of things I’m not that worried about friends getting into my phone.

The person I’m worried about is the thief on the street or if I lost my phone and it was found. Those people won’t have a picture of me so aren’t going to be able to get into my phone.
 
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Shanghaichica said:
It’s not just integration with a Mac. The iPhone integrates with an iPad, an Apple Watch, an Apple TV, a HomePod, AirPods better than an android device.
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I think it's the other way around ... iPad, Apple watch, Apple TV and Homepod are have LIMITED (as in only with) integration with iPhone/Mac only.... (yes they call it ecosystem to make it look cool, cause WE ARE LOCKING YOU IN was not that marketable)

Airpods instead have limited (as in partial) integration with Android and full integration with iOS / Mac.
 
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YaBe said:
I think it's the other way around ... iPad, Apple watch, Apple TV and Homepod are have LIMITED (as in only with) integration with iPhone/Mac only.... (yes they call it ecosystem to make it look cool, cause WE ARE LOCKING YOU IN was not that marketable)

Airpods instaed have limited (as in partial) integration with Android and full integration with iOS / Mac.
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AirPods work with android devices but they are no different to any other Bluetooth headphones. The W1 chip features don’t work.
 
KPOM said:
I like the ability to unlock a phone with gloves on.
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I am glad you didn't say astronaut gloves.
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MarkB786 said:
Sure, like I'm worried about someone making a 3d printed head of me just to unlock my phone. I think the risks are worth the much better functionality of my Note 9. But I'll be sure to watch for people carrying head around.
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The test as a current method of hacking into a smart phone wasn’t trying to be an example of a criminal or governmental method of hacking. It’s supposed to be taking an extreme case and showing which company or technology, if anyone, managed to prevent their system from being compromised when a top of the line attempt is used to try and fool it. It’s wasn’t meant to represent a valid way to do a system hack, it was meant to test how good all of the different facial recognition systems for phones currently are.
 
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