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Just wondering,
How does the iPhone Haptic Touch know the difference between entering "Edit Mode" or "Quick Actions" on the Home Screen?
Today the only difference on my iPhone Xs Max is the amount of force applied to the display.
 
I don't think Apple would disable 3D touch on existing devices or even merge the function with long press. I do suspect it will slowly go away slowly over time though.

i sure hope not, cause that's just bull. i already got ever the fact that i will likely be holding on to my xs for another two years(while they actually come up with something new), but as a highlight i saw holding on to force touch.
 
3D Touch failed because there was no easy way to know where it functioned.

Disagree. 3D Touch was not successful because Apple never marketed it, with the exception with the iPhone 6s keynote. How is the consumer supposed to know how manipulate 3D Touch, when the Apple doesn’t really provide any tutorials/functionality of 3D Touch? Most consumers don’t even know what 3D Touch is even on their phone, except for those who actually appreciate the feature and know how to invoke specific actions.
 
All of which suck, are not justification for keeping it, are better with Apple Pencil, and will be forgotten instantly.

This is why 3D Touch going away. There has been no meaningful application of the pressure sensitivity. Everything people actually do with 3D Touch can be accomplished with long press. It has had years since its debut on the iPhone 6s to amount to something. It hasn't.

All of which suck? No. Will be forgotten instantly? Big fat NO.

Pencil support? Sure, I’d love to have it on the iPhone! But ATM there is no pencil support on the iPhone.

Haptic touch is inferior to 3D Touch and lacks pressure sensitivity needed by myself and many other iPhone owners.
 
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Yes it does, hold down on the space bar and there you go. Even if you disable 3D touch on a supported iPhone it works this way

Long press the space bar...

As @squizzler accurately pointed out, haptic touch allows for movement of the cursor but not the actual selection of text that a secondary press using 3D Touch allows.

You can’t select text “by just holding down the space bar”.....

This was probably the element of 3D Touch that I used the most (cursor navigation), with notification previews being second. Now that I’m using an Xr, I do miss the ability to select text but the ability to move the cursor is far more important for me personally. Since I can use both of these on an Xr now using haptic touch, I’m fine with the elimination of 3D Touch, especially if it means less space taken by any necessary hardware.

And while plenty of members here on this forum may use 3D Touch regularly, the truth is that most people don’t even know it exists. If I had a nickel for every person that sees me using the cursor navigation tool and had no idea it was even possible, much less peek and pop or app quick actions, I’d be a very rich man.
 
Trying reading the article.
You use it all the time for the exact features that will still exist and now be available on all devices.
Not quite. What’s their solution to replace the way it was implemented into gaming? That’s a big one for those of us who use their phone for gaming
 
You can’t select text “by just holding down the space bar” ...
Yes you can! Hold down the space bar to move the cursor to the beginning of the text you want to select. Keep holding while you tap with a second finger anywhere on the keyboard area. Now you’re in text selection mode. Move the cursor further and the text beneath it will be selected. When you’ve covered it all, let go. Voila!
Now that I’m using an Xr, I do miss the ability to select text but the ability to move the cursor is far more important for me personally.
Again, yes you can select text on an iPhone XR. I’m doing it right now ... right now ... right now ... right now ...

See, it works!
 
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Sad news for XS users who will be upgrading, but win win for XR users. I will miss 3D Touch, but if Haptic Touch allows me to still peek and pop into messages etc, I’ll be happy.

Not sure about the pop gesture without 3D Touch.
As I predicted they're replacing the force gesture with press and hold and that's ok in some scenario, but Peek and Pop is different. You can Peek by long pressing, but how do you pop? They have to find another gesture for pop, or if the long press goes on for a certain amount of time they assume you want to pop.
I have a Xs but I won't miss 3D Touch in a future phone, ever since they allowed to long press on the space bar to move through text I've stopped using 3D on the keyboard, and I've never been a fan of peek and pop
 
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Disagree. 3D Touch was not successful because Apple never marketed it, with the exception with the iPhone 6s keynote. How is the consumer supposed to know how manipulate 3D Touch, when the Apple doesn’t really provide any tutorials/functionality of 3D Touch? Most consumers don’t even know what 3D Touch is even on their phone, except for those who actually appreciate the feature and know how to invoke specific actions.
This is very true. A lot of people find out by accident. Sometimes it’s annoying when your trying to delete an app and 3D Touch gets invoked.
 
Not sure about the pop gesture without 3D Touch.
As I predicted they're replacing the force gesture with press and hold and that's ok in some scenario, but Peek and Pop is different. You can Peek by long pressing, but how do you pop? They have to find another gesture for pop, or if the long press goes on for a certain amount of time they assume you want to pop.
I have a Xs but I won't miss 3D Touch in a future phone, ever since they allowed to long press on the space bar to move through text I've stopped using 3D on the keyboard, and I've never been a fan of peek and pop

You know what’s strange? Some of my third-party applications are no longer supporting 3D Touch that have in the past, and this is all been recent changes before the WWDC event yesterday. I primarily use 3D Touch on more third-party applications than I do through the core functionality apps on the iPhone. So it seems developers are already abandoning 3D Touch support in favor of expecting that it wouldn’t be supported through iOS 13 if true.
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This is very true. A lot of people find out by accident. Sometimes it’s annoying when your trying to delete an app and 3D Touch gets invoked.

3D Touch is like ‘Live Photos’ feature, Apple briefly marketed Live Photos when the iPhone 6s launched, and now no one really even knows what that was/is, due to failed marketing. But I also understand, Apple can’t market _every_ single feature or they just spend a limited amount of time on it.
 
Man. This just makes the iPhone XS more of a rip-off. I feel duped and should have went with the XR.
 
Absolutely not. The problem is that it never became more useful than long press. It had the potential to, but the hardware for pressure sensitivity, after 5 long years, was not adopted by anything worth keeping.
That's what I meant, though. Long press was an existing, although less ideal, solution. 3D Touch couldn't gain traction because of that.
 
Glad everyone posting in a 3d Touch article loves 3D touch so much (hmm, ironic).

Fact is 3D Touch while a cool tech, was/is just not intuitive. I just learned a few tricks in this discussion I had no idea about. I assume i will also quickly forget them in a couple days as well. lol
 
Disagree. 3D Touch was not successful because Apple never marketed it, with the exception with the iPhone 6s keynote. How is the consumer supposed to know how manipulate 3D Touch, when the Apple doesn’t really provide any tutorials/functionality of 3D Touch? Most consumers don’t even know what 3D Touch is even on their phone, except for those who actually appreciate the feature and know how to invoke specific actions.

I actively turn it off on most peoples devices as it confuses non-techy type people
 
iOS 13 copy 3D Touch features. So my iPad will get 3D Touch features when it gets iPadOS 13. My iPhone XS Max has supported 3D Touch features in both iOS 12 and iOS 13. I'm so happy for keep 3D Touch features on Non-3D Touch Devices such as iPhone XR, 2019, and 2020 and iPad.
 
I find this disappointing, but not because I'll miss 3D Touch on the home screen. Puzzazz uses the underlying pressure-sensitive input support for its TouchWrite with AutoPencil feature — you can switch seamlessly between having your handwriting recognized as "pen" or "pencil" while solving puzzles by just writing more lightly to get pencil. It is super handy! Unfortunately, I have never seen another app use pressure sensitivity in this way, not even on the iPad where the closest I've seen is some apps using Apple Pencil pressure to control line thickness when drawing. Press and Hold simply cannot provide the same functionality.
 
Yes you can! Hold down the space bar to move the cursor to the beginning of the text you want to select. Keep holding while you tap with a second finger anywhere on the keyboard area. Now you’re in text selection mode. Move the cursor further and the text beneath it will be selected. When you’ve covered it all, let go. Voila!
Again, yes you can select text on an iPhone XR. I’m doing it right now ... right now ... right now ... right now ...

See, it works!

Second finger? Nobody got time for that!:eek:
 
Yes you can! Hold down the space bar to move the cursor to the beginning of the text you want to select. Keep holding while you tap with a second finger anywhere on the keyboard area. Now you’re in text selection mode. Move the cursor further and the text beneath it will be selected. When you’ve covered it all, let go. Voila!
Again, yes you can select text on an iPhone XR. I’m doing it right now ... right now ... right now ... right now ...

See, it works!

Wow thats so intuitive. I cant believe I didnt figure that out myself! lol :)
 
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No I assume 3D touch will work the same for all devices with supported hardware until it dies out with the newer iPhones.
I do wonder if it will stick around on Apple Watch, I hope so since it's actually useful on there

I hope you´re right.
 
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